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A quick lesson in electrical values please

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I need to replace the chassis mount transformer in garage door motor. The original is obsolete, so a generic unit will be required, but I am having no luck in exactly matching the output rating of 3.9 volt-amps.
Google tells me that ' Transformers are rated in volt amps (VA). It defines the limit of the magnetizing field inside the transformer. If this limit is exceeded, the transformer goes into saturation and ceases to function properly.'
Does that mean I can use a unit with a higher rating - 40 VA is about as low as I can find so far.
Thanks for any advice.

asmawa1 - 2021-09-27 14:09:00
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Yes, a higher VA rating is fine.

3.9VA is tiny, that's the size you'd solder directly to a circuit board, I would have thought a transformer in a garage door motor would be bigger than that.

There's 2 important things to consider - the output voltage must be about right, I don't know what yours is but an example might be 24 volts AC.

The second thing is the current, again I don't know but lets say 2 amp. You could get a higher, say 4 amp transformer and that would be fine.

So my examples calculate to VA = 24 * 2 = 48VA, or the 4 amp would be 24 * 4 = 96VA. (again, 3.9VA doesn't sound enough to run a garage door motor, but it might be right if it's soldered directly to a circuit board and only powers the radio receiver and a 12volt relay to trigger another power circuit)

This example of a replacement part for garage door motors has a 24 volt output and is rated at 40VA - https://www.northshorecommercialdoor.com/matrtr.html

Post a photo of the transformer with a description of the make and model.

Edited by gyrogearloose at 2:46 pm, Mon 27 Sep

gyrogearloose - 2021-09-27 14:34:00
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Thanks, The unit is 240 VAC - 18 VAC. 3.9 VA. - (I took a picture to confirm the decimal point was not just a bit of dirt) Like you say the VA rating does not seem to align with the AC voltages

Have to confess that I don't know how to upload photo to message board.

Edited by asmawa1 at 2:54 pm, Mon 27 Sep

asmawa1 - 2021-09-27 14:53:00
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Here's an example of an 18 volt 5VA transformer:

https://nz.rs-online.com/web/p/pcb-transformers/1738958

The specs give the physical size and that it weighs 150 grams. Does your transformer weigh that little and about the size of a matchbox?

gyrogearloose - 2021-09-27 15:02:00
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I had been on the RS website but didn't see this. The values are perfect. My unit is matchbox size but is a shrink wrapped/shellac core held in place with a horseshoe saddle. However there is a bit of space to get creative re mounting tho. Thanks very much for helping.

asmawa1 - 2021-09-27 15:15:00
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asmawa1 wrote:

Thanks, The unit is 240 VAC - 18 VAC. 3.9 VA. - (I took a picture to confirm the decimal point was not just a bit of dirt) Like you say the VA rating does not seem to align with the AC voltages

Have to confess that I don't know how to upload photo to message board.

Those specs are pretty obvious, but if you want to add a photo in future...
Uploading photo to messageboard.

Upload a photo to your My Photos section on your My Trademe page.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/MyTradeMe/UploadPhoto.aspx
Once it's uploaded click on View my Photos.
Click the photo you just uploaded.
In the address bar up top starting https:// , drag or click on the line there ending in .jpg so it's all highlighted, right click and choose copy, or hold Ctrl key and press c.
Go to the place on the MB where you want to put your photo and right click - Paste, or hold Ctrl key and press V.

nzstocked - 2021-09-29 09:06:00
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Ya better let your insurance company know of your electrical repair plans first.

tegretol - 2021-10-02 19:15:00
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tegretol wrote:

Ya better let your insurance company know of your electrical repair plans first.

ECP 50

https://www.worksafe.govt.nz/laws-and-regulations/standards/
electricity-standards-and-codes-of-practice/

tygertung - 2021-10-02 21:04:00
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tygertung wrote:

ECP 50

https://www.worksafe.govt.nz/laws-and-regulations/standards/
electricity-standards-and-codes-of-practice/

The first sentence under FOREWORD is the key.

tegretol - 2021-10-02 22:33:00
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