This should help increase house prices and rents.

ash4561 - 2021-10-19 15:10:00

How will more housing in the places it's really needed, increase rents?

kestrel43 - 2021-10-19 15:18:00

Demand is still higher than supply. Anything with a lawn will go up along with new builds with investors leaving not much in the lower price to fight over putting there price up but maybe house prices will crash as well as rents.

ash4561 - 2021-10-19 15:34:00

3 x 3 stories houses can be built without a resource consent !! I can imagine the city councils being thrilled with that !! RE are a money spinner and a mechanism to control the requirement to roll out new / upgraded infrastructure.
Before everybody get all hot and excited by it, I would be looking for a city council who will let you do it, or at least will not put every obstacle in your way !!

onl_148 - 2021-10-19 16:21:00

Slum Ghettos in the making.

Pack them in - like Sardines.

fruitbat - 2021-10-19 17:37:00

The important question is who are these extra 100,000 houses for.

My guess is to allow immigration to return to 50,000 to 70,000 per year.

Is it about time New Zealand held a referendum of what population size we want.

ian1990 - 2021-10-19 18:15:00

Wonder what counts as major city? We live in a small country town so figure we will be fine. Would love to be able to build a garage without resource consent.

annie17111 - 2021-10-19 18:16:00

annie17111 wrote:

Wonder what counts as major city? We live in a small country town so figure we will be fine. Would love to be able to build a garage without resource consent.

Whangarei, Rotorua, New Plymouth, Napier Hastings, Palmerston North, Nelson Tasman, Queenstown and Dunedin.

Why do you think you need a resource consent for your garage?

sparkychap - 2021-10-19 18:19:00

sparkychap wrote:

Whangarei, Rotorua, New Plymouth, Napier Hastings, Palmerston North, Nelson Tasman, Queenstown and Dunedin.

Why do you think you need a resource consent for your garage?

not sure if it's resource consent or just consent. We want to build a really big garage.

annie17111 - 2021-10-19 18:22:00

ash4561 wrote:

Demand is still higher than supply. Anything with a lawn will go up along with new builds with investors leaving not much in the lower price to fight over putting there price up but maybe house prices will crash as well as rents.

That lawn probably won't get much sun or light (to say nothing of privacy) if you're surrounded on all sides by 3 storey houses.

supersapper - 2021-10-19 18:35:00

annie17111 wrote:

Wonder what counts as major city? We live in a small country town so figure we will be fine. Would love to be able to build a garage without resource consent.

You can but no bigger than 30 square meters though or rural a pole shed 110 square meters.

gamefisher - 2021-10-19 19:11:00

gamefisher wrote:

You can but no bigger than 30 square meters though or rural a pole shed 110 square meters.

yeah 30 sq metre won't be big enough as he wants 10m by 12m

annie17111 - 2021-10-19 19:32:00

fruitbat wrote:

Slum Ghettos in the making.

Pack them in - like Sardines.

you know that because thats how youd live ?

thornton1961 - 2021-10-19 20:37:00

Why, oh why didn't they do this 20 years ago?
The housing shortage would never have grown into the monster we have now.

masturbidder - 2021-10-19 21:07:00

sparkychap wrote:

Whangarei, Rotorua, New Plymouth, Napier Hastings, Palmerston North, Nelson Tasman, Queenstown and Dunedin.

Why do you think you need a resource consent for your garage?

They want a 'real' garage ie a man-shed, not one of those structures where you have to breath out to get between the car and the wall.

brouser3 - 2021-10-19 21:39:00

brouser3 wrote:

They want a 'real' garage ie a man-shed, not one of those structures where you have to breath out to get between the car and the wall.

Maybe you need to loose some weight then.

sparkychap - 2021-10-19 21:47:00

For sure the developers will be in on it - especially in 'older' areas where there are a lot of older homes which are relatively high maintenance on bigger sections. Longer term property owners may see it as an attractive exit into something else if the price offered is right, Easy for developer to bowl old home and build new.More recent property owners who still aren't in a financial position will see it as a land bank - and stay put for now. Most people won't want to do the job themself - unless intending to become landlords, as the tax implications of being a 'developer' will be to onerous for them.

brouser3 - 2021-10-20 08:28:00

ian1990 wrote:

The important question is who are these extra 100,000 houses for.

My guess is to allow immigration to return to 50,000 to 70,000 per year.

Is it about time New Zealand held a referendum of what population size we want.

I agree , 5 million is enough , however we are ruled by those who don’t give a toss about our whenua .

flynn999 - 2021-10-20 16:52:00

It's already happening. Around us every time we see a for sale sign I check out the section. Generally if it's rectangle and 800sqm or more then the house is gone and 3-5 two/three level townhouses are on.

hers.nz - 2021-10-20 17:55:00

Don't panic. If you are on the Gold Coast you will see a lot of this type of development with multiple buildings on one site. Personal ext. ground space is minimal with a decent sized common grassed and pool is available to all. Some are a gated village and on the whole I think it is a good way to get started. Family paid $430,000 for theirs and similar in Tge $550000 plus.
Here they would still be renting..

hammer23 - 2021-10-20 23:15:00

hammer23 wrote:

Don't panic. If you are on the Gold Coast you will see a lot of this type of development with multiple buildings on one site. Personal ext. ground space is minimal with a decent sized common grassed and pool is available to all. Some are a gated village and on the whole I think it is a good way to get started. Family paid $430,000 for theirs and similar in Tge $550000 plus.
Here they would still be renting..

Do they have body corps and if so rough figure on top of rates please?

mazalinas - 2021-10-20 23:17:00

ash4561 wrote:

This should help increase house prices and rents.

Hahahahahahahhaah

Oh, are you being serious?

Edited by loose.unit8 at 8:36 am, Thu 21 Oct

loose.unit8 - 2021-10-21 08:36:00

mazalinas wrote:

Do they have body corps and if so rough figure on top of rates please?
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Yes I am sure they must have body corp, but remember what I said, their outgoings is cheaper than when they rented. Can I suggest you check Aust property listings and find something that appeals and ask the R/E agent.

hammer23 - 2021-10-21 15:07:00

loose.unit8 wrote:

Hahahahahahahhaah

Oh, are you being serious?

Not sure but I dont see it making houses or rents cheaper in the next 5 years, maybe higher interest rates or covid could, might get a few houses for sale and covid this time might impact more than the first round to no jobs no money cant afford rent homeless and less demand to decrese prices.
If you live in a house with a big section you probly won't be building three houses, you might of alreadt subdivided the back. The developers have already been buying and getting consent to bulldoze the home and put more on. A few more of these easier now but building materials and interest on the rise doesn't make affordable housing but I might be missing what the government is seeing. I guess they know best.

ash4561 - 2021-10-21 16:47:00

Yes its very easy to bowl an existing house on a 800m section and build three multi-level units, happening very fast around Auckland, they all look like ugly boxes and block views and sun.
I think we will look back in twenty years time and regret these cardboard cutout homes but they will certainly help bring prices down, along with interest rates, growth in retirement homes, covid and Aussie opening up.
Just sold your last rentals - probably wise as a rich guy once said, don't wait till the market peaks to sell as you may be to late.

antiquehunters - 2021-10-26 11:48:00

For s more informed discussion about these changes, the RMA amendment bill is:
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2021/0083/la
test/whole.html#LMS566049
and the explanatory notes are in:
https://www.hud.govt.nz/assets/News-and-Resources/News-Artic
les/Final-fact-sheet-19-10-2021.pdf
I am looking forward to this becoming law in August '22, and think it should have been done years ago.

masturbidder - 2021-10-26 20:55:00

Wait until a some important person ends up with a whole heap
Of houses looking down in there yard.
Then they will think this was a mistake.

rodeorunch - 2021-10-26 22:19:00

flynn999 wrote:

I agree , 5 million is enough , however we are ruled by those who don’t give a toss about our whenua .

5 mil is more than enough.

trogedon - 2021-11-03 12:01:00

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gunna-1 - 2021-11-04 05:10:00

6m wall 1m from boundary. So long sun. Hello rat cage.

Edited by pcle at 9:08 am, Thu 4 Nov

pcle - 2021-11-04 09:07:00

Not sure of the in's and outs but the general concensus is that each 'dwelling' will be over 3 levels which may or maynot be detached from the others. Perhaps the other alternative is that each level is in fact a dwelling. Seems like the need to house cars is fast becoming a non issue, so this allows even more versatility and availability of living space.

brouser3 - 2021-11-04 11:35:00

This whole matter will be ideal "nimby" fdder !! "Oh yes it is a wonderful idea to get more houses built, but of course it will not be suitable for the street / suburb we live in"..

onl_148 - 2021-11-04 12:21:00

ian1990 wrote:

The important question is who are these extra 100,000 houses for.

My guess is to allow immigration to return to 50,000 to 70,000 per year.

Is it about time New Zealand held a referendum of what population size we want.

Much better than the time wasted over a flag.

Edited by sweetgurl108 at 8:59 pm, Thu 4 Nov

sweetgurl108 - 2021-11-04 20:59:00