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Have got an email from myself to myself, seemingly sent by a scammer and demanding I pay bitcoin into his/her wallet.
Out of curiosity, I would like to know how someone can send an email from me, to me? Also, how to find the true senders details and email properties, ISP etc, but I think this can't be done now using Outlook mail?
Any help/suggestions appreciated.

hulloitsme - 2021-08-31 19:13:00
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you can have a look in the email headers for other details https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/view-internet-mes
sage-headers-in-outlook-cd039382-dc6e-4264-ac74-c048563d212c

you can use this site to analyze them, may or may not be useful
https://mha.azurewebsites.net/

All addresses can be and will be faked so just how useful the info will be is debatable. I would just mark as junk and move on, this isn't anything new...

king1 - 2021-08-31 19:23:00
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@ king1. Thanks for that, but none of those worked.

hulloitsme - 2021-08-31 20:45:00
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hulloitsme wrote:

Have got an email from myself to myself, seemingly sent by a scammer and demanding I pay bitcoin into his/her wallet.
Out of curiosity, I would like to know how someone can send an email from me, to me? Also, how to find the true senders details and email properties, ISP etc, but I think this can't be done now using Outlook mail?
Any help/suggestions appreciated.

First step, go here and check if your email address has leaked.

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

ronaldo8 - 2021-08-31 22:03:00
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hulloitsme wrote:

@ king1. Thanks for that, but none of those worked.

what didn't work? you can't really fix the spam problem ...

Edited by king1 at 10:04 pm, Tue 31 Aug

king1 - 2021-08-31 22:03:00
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@ king1... I followed what you said via the link you gave

View message headers in Outlook on your desktop

Double-click an email message to open it outside of the Reading Pane.

Click File > Properties.

Header information appears in the Internet headers box.
Tip: You can highlight the information in that box, press Ctrl+C to copy, and paste it into Notepad or Word to see the entire header at once.

But there's no internet headers box. What I'm trying to do is find "message source".

Edited by hulloitsme at 7:13 am, Wed 1 Sep

hulloitsme - 2021-09-01 07:12:00
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not much point. Anybody can set their sender address to anything they like. All you're going to get from headers is the sending IP address. then what ?

Best is just to delete it, and check your email address & password that were hacked and listed on the darkweb, using haveibeenpwned.com, and make sure that you've changed the password on that account, since its been hacked.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-09-01 08:19:00
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hulloitsme wrote:


But there's no internet headers box. What I'm trying to do is find "message source".

well it's definitely there, i'm using the same outlook version as you.

have a look here for the process
https://www.howtogeek.com/442317/how-to-read-message-headers
-in-outlook/

if it's not what you are seeing - what are you seeing?

king1 - 2021-09-01 09:24:00
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Problem solved!

Message Headers Source can only be displayed for my @outlook.com email address (which uses Microsoft exchange). Outlook can't display Headers for auxillary email addresses to outlook.com, such as @welloilbeefcooked.com

My thanks to all who tried to help.

hulloitsme - 2021-09-02 15:50:00
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hulloitsme wrote:

Problem solved!

Message Headers Source can only be displayed for my @outlook.com email address (which uses Microsoft exchange). Outlook can't display Headers for auxillary email addresses to outlook.com, such as @welloilbeefcooked.com

My thanks to all who tried to help.

Outlook has always displayed mail headers for every email, regardless of source . Where are you getting the other info from? At a guess it might be referring to the Outlook web app at Outlook.com, which is a different beast

Edited by king1 at 4:07 pm, Thu 2 Sep

king1 - 2021-09-02 16:00:00
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@ king1. I have a master outlook.com email address routed to Microsoft exchange mail server via Openhost mail server here in NZ. No problem with reading full headers there.

I also have a different .com, not outlook.com, mail address hosted by Openhost which also routes through Microsoft Exchange and which is Outlook Mail program on my comp. I can read the full headers there via file -> properties as well.

I cannot read full message header source in the email sent to me by a scammer sender who used my own email address to send it. Please ignore my post #9

hulloitsme - 2021-09-03 12:40:00
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ronaldo8 wrote:

First step, go here and check if your email address has leaked.

https://haveibeenpwned.com/


So if this website indicates your email has been leaked what action should you take ? Assume change password but what else. How serious is it.

sandy14 - 2021-09-03 12:57:00
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ronaldo8 wrote:

First step, go here and check if your email address has leaked.

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

I've checked on that site and the email address hasn't leaked.

hulloitsme - 2021-09-03 13:03:00
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What you’re seeing is called “spoofing” sending email appearing as if it’s coming From: someone that it isn’t. Like yourself.

Spammers hide their email’s origin, and do so very effectively. Spoofing is used in almost all spam you see.
And it’s quite easy.

The From: address is meaningless on spam — it tells you absolutely nothing.

There’s nothing in the email protocol requiring that the From: line of a message has anything to do with the message’s true origin. To discover the true origin requires more detailed analysis of email headers (which you normally don’t see), and even then, at best you might be able to get the IP address of the computer sending the email.

That you’re seeing your email address in the From: field of spam shouldn’t alarm you. It might be annoying, but there’s no need to worry about it. You’re already on spammer’s lists to get spam, and they’re using that same list, or variations of it, to select which addresses to use when spoofing.

Currently, there is no effective way to stop them.

lythande1 - 2021-09-03 17:31:00
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@ lythande1. Thanks very much for that info.

hulloitsme - 2021-09-04 08:34:00
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