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I’ve read the district plan but am not completely sure of the answers to my questions. It’s clear that I can’t build a helicopter landing pad but I’m not sure what I can build.

I’m talking about outer urban Wellington

If I buy a section with a building on the boundary and knock it down can I build the new building on the boundary or does it have to be a certain distance from the boundary?

If it makes any difference neighbours are also very close to the boundary.

Thanks

magicroundbout - 2021-08-24 10:01:00
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New builds would have to comply with the council planning rules . Check with your council

martin11 - 2021-08-24 10:02:00
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martin11 wrote:

New builds would have to comply with the council planning rules . Check with your council

Hence why a lot of old buildings just get gutted & a total internal rebuild

mrfxit - 2021-08-24 10:31:00
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Its normally 1.5 meters inside the property unless there is a building line set back, usually a Geotech requirement, you'd have to get consent to build on the boundary from the effected neighbours and put up a fire wall, usually a concrete block wall.
If there is a wall already on the boundary then i wouldn't touch it, as another said just gut and rebuild.

Edited by mrcat1 at 11:20 am, Tue 24 Aug

mrcat1 - 2021-08-24 11:18:00
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magicroundbout wrote:

I’ve read the district plan but am not completely sure of the answers to my questions. It’s clear that I can’t build a helicopter landing pad but I’m not sure what I can build.

I’m talking about outer urban Wellington

If I buy a section with a building on the boundary and knock it down can I build the new building on the boundary or does it have to be a certain distance from the boundary?

If it makes any difference neighbours are also very close to the boundary.

Thanks

Unlikely, but if you leave that wall you may be able to claim existing rights. On the other hand if the Plan and title allow you build on the boundary then yes.

johnston - 2021-08-24 11:31:00
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Thankyou very much especially mrcat and Johnston

magicroundbout - 2021-08-24 12:04:00
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If the original building was built with a consent to build on the boundary, then you can only make repairs. If it is removed, then the new build is subject to the latest regs although consent from neighbours may be sort. Apparently the other way out is if the original building is condemend due to earthquake damage, then the new build can go exactly where the original was without consent to build on the boundry.

rak1 - 2021-08-24 14:01:00
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rak1 wrote:

If the original building was built with a consent to build on the boundary, then you can only make repairs. If it is removed, then the new build is subject to the latest regs although consent from neighbours may be sort. Apparently the other way out is if the original building is condemend due to earthquake damage, then the new build can go exactly where the original was without consent to build on the boundry.

This was not allowed in Chch after the quakes if the original homw was completely dempolised the new house had to comply with the current rules and you had to have a consent .

martin11 - 2021-08-24 14:05:00
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mrfxit wrote:

Hence why a lot of old buildings just get gutted & a total internal rebuild

Guy that bought one of my houses firstly completely reclad the outside. Then completely gutted inside. Yeah a new house on old house footprint.

sher5 - 2021-08-24 14:48:00
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martin11 wrote:

This was not allowed in Chch after the quakes if the original homw was completely dempolised the new house had to comply with the current rules and you had to have a consent .

You could be right about an actual house. The document I recall seeing was about garages and the like. Wish I could find the document now.

rak1 - 2021-08-24 15:18:00
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Yes I have seen this done, leave the wall on the boundary and follow the light laws for sun, used to be 35 degrees roof pitch south boundry and ,45 for east west, all depends what zone you are in, business can go straight up. Just ask at your local council.

msigg - 2021-08-24 15:20:00
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Won't you have to get 'resource consent' before you can do anything? lor at the very best show/prove that you don't need it in which case you will probably have to know the district plan rules inside out.

brouser3 - 2021-08-24 17:14:00
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Depends if you're mates with the inspector. Rules in Auckland are being thrown out the window (so to speak) Little cottage 2 doors up got moved back to allow a house to be built on the front half of the section(minimum size sections suddenly went from 600m2 to whatever you can build) A 3 story behemoth was built blocking all but morning sun from the house on the south side.The 2m on boundry, then 45* would have cut through the 2nd floor, if it was enforced.Went to an evening onsite auction of the house 4 doors up and wife spoke to the owners of the shaded house and they said they had rung the council to complain, but no-one seemed to care, so they've listed their house for sale.Their photo of the front of the house shows it in shade and the sun on the fence past the behemoth.

blueviking - 2021-08-24 17:20:00
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blueviking there rules have changed in Auckland city, they want to compress the city, high rises etc along the transport routes. By By 1/4 acre sections. hello apartments and high density. Like it or lump it that's what is going to happen. More immigration to fill them up.

msigg - 2021-08-24 17:29:00
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blueviking wrote:

Depends if you're mates with the inspector. Rules in Auckland are being thrown out the window (so to speak) Little cottage 2 doors up got moved back to allow a house to be built on the front half of the section(minimum size sections suddenly went from 600m2 to whatever you can build) A 3 story behemoth was built blocking all but morning sun from the house on the south side.The 2m on boundry, then 45* would have cut through the 2nd floor, if it was enforced.Went to an evening onsite auction of the house 4 doors up and wife spoke to the owners of the shaded house and they said they had rung the council to complain, but no-one seemed to care, so they've listed their house for sale.Their photo of the front of the house shows it in shade and the sun on the fence past the behemoth.


There is an alternative side HIRB of 3.6m +73.3 degrees within 20m of the road boundary, up to 6.9m high, then 45 deg.
That allows taller buildings in the MSU zone.

masturbidder - 2021-08-25 20:58:00
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also remember some councils require a consent to remove a building aswell. have struck that before.

clangie - 2021-08-27 19:28:00
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magicroundbout wrote:

I’m talking about outer urban Wellington

If I buy a section with a building on the boundary and knock it down can I build the new building on the boundary or does it have to be a certain distance from the boundary?

If it makes any difference neighbours are also very close to the boundary.

Thanks

Outer residential in Wgtn has a 1m minimum between buildings rather than side yard limits.

pauldw - 2021-08-27 20:09:00
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From what I remember for Wgtn for side boundary's its at the boundary 2.5m up then from the top of that inward at 45 degree angle. (an envelope they call it.). If u breach that resource consent needed, if not only building consent. Maximum height for outer residential 8m except for area inside that zone, zoned centres, they can do more often build up to boundary.

karmae - 2021-08-27 20:51:00
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