4G network load
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| 1 | We have got skinny 4g internet, but my wife is working from home today due to the level 4 lockdown. The 4g is usually real fast, but today it seems slower. I tested and we seem to only be getting about 12 megabits download and 3.5 upload, however I remember getting more than that in the past? Are more people using their cellphones more, but surely they would be on their home WIFI? Any ideas? tygertung - 2021-08-18 12:10:00 |
| 2 | get Fibre installed docpc - 2021-08-18 12:19:00 |
| 3 | No, it is out of our budget. The internet seems to have sped up now. tygertung - 2021-08-18 12:44:00 |
| 4 | It'll vary depending on the number of other users in the locality. nice_lady - 2021-08-18 13:01:00 |
| 5 | tygertung wrote: I think that's because your wife is home and time is dragging on. If this was a normal day I'd have a beer open and things would be flying along. gyrogearloose - 2021-08-18 13:53:00 |
| 6 | The issue seems to be that she is booted into Windows 10 and it doesn't seem to be getting a good WIFI connection on Windows 10 despite that both wifi routers are in the room directly below her. I ran a network cable up from the room below up the stairs and as long as you disable wifi in Windows 10 (seems to keep reverting to wifi for some reason) it gets 30 megabits download and upload rather than .3 megabits. Also maybe what is causing an issue is that she hardly boots into Windows 10 as it is slower than Ubuntu and seeing as it is hardly booted into, maybe Windows 10 is going crazy on the updates. I did go into the Updates menu, but it said an update had failed as the Update programme was shutting down for some reason. It is on version 1909 from memory. Maybe something about 20H2??? Can't quite remember. But even with the ethernet cable plugged in, the performance on the remote network is lacklustre. It is using Forticlient VPN, looking into it, it seems to be avaliable for Ubuntu as well. I might try getting that going tonight and see if it is faster. I will have to write down all the connection settings first. tygertung - 2021-08-18 14:07:00 |
| 7 | docpc wrote:
How do you suggest doing that during the lockdown? tygertung - 2021-08-18 20:51:00 |
| 8 | You can view the network traffic in windows with the task manager / performance TAB. Make sure the fortinet client isn't pushing all your traffic through the VPN. You might have to set a "metric" value for the IPv4 on the VPN (assuming it comes up as a virtual ethernet device) bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-08-18 21:37:00 |
| 9 | We've got my wife's work computer now which is an Intel NUC with an i5 in it, which is connected via ethernet cable so should have no issues. The laptop seemed to be running at high CPU and HDD most of the time on Windows 10 for some reason, although did settle down after sitting idle for a few hours. Will have to monitor the performance tomorrow. I tried to set it up with remote access in Linux as Linux seems to run a lot faster on that machine. I was able to get it to connect with the Linux Forticlient VPN no worries, but couldn't get the remote access working. tygertung - 2021-08-18 22:40:00 |
| 10 | Skinny is currently offering unlimited fibre 30/10 for $73 month trade_menow - 2021-08-19 02:30:00 |
| 11 | tygertung wrote: lythande1 - 2021-08-19 08:56:00 |
| 12 | The member deleted this message. ofaatudesigns - 2021-08-19 10:07:00 |
| 13 | I think the issue isn't the 4G, it is Windows 10 doing strange things with the LAN, like swapping from the LAN cable to WIFI and doing weird background processes, probably updates and other strange Windows 10 type things without asking. I noticed that the CPU was getting real hammered for no obvious reason, and also the HDD was also on 100% a lot of the time, and indeed high ram usage. Maybe all the RAM was getting used up so there was a lot of swapping going on with the HDD. It does have 4 GB which should be fairly enough, but who knows on Windows? tygertung - 2021-08-19 10:39:00 |
| 14 | Pathetic. 16 GB is good starting point for W10. 4 GB was good for XP. My firefox load alone uses 16 GB. Edited by spyware at 11:04 am, Thu 19 Aug spyware - 2021-08-19 11:03:00 |
| 15 | So look at task manager and ascertain what is doing what with the cpu/ram etc it's easy enough. As for it swapping between the lan cable and wifi - just make it forget the wifi. nice_lady - 2021-08-19 11:04:00 |
| 16 | By disabling the interface. spyware - 2021-08-19 11:07:00 |
| 17 | spyware wrote:
OK mr hardware snob. I'm very happy for you that you have a very high end machine. And 4GB is the absolute maximum you can use on normal XP. Remember when XP came out, no computers would use 4GB ram. tygertung - 2021-08-19 13:45:00 |
| 18 | spyware wrote:
What crap. Most consumer laptops/desktops come with 8GB and that's plenty. Your FF load uses 16 GB ? Somethings not right there. I just started FF with two tabs opened and it used 600Mb. nice_lady - 2021-08-19 13:51:00 |
| 19 | tygertung wrote:
Errr no you're getting confused with the difference between 32 & 64 bit Xp: Physical Memory Limits: Windows XP Limit on X64 Windows XP 128 GB (64 bit) Ps: this somewhat depends on your Mobo also. Edited by nice_lady at 1:55 pm, Thu 19 Aug nice_lady - 2021-08-19 13:53:00 |
| 20 | I believe Windows 10 1909 is outdated now and not supported, so the laptop will be downloading the latest version. loud_37 - 2021-08-19 14:26:00 |
| 21 | I have 400 tabs open. Generous memory would be 64 or 128 GB. Edited by spyware at 3:13 pm, Thu 19 Aug spyware - 2021-08-19 15:12:00 |
| 22 | WTF. Seriously why would anyone want 400 tabs open. nice_lady - 2021-08-19 15:15:00 |
| 23 | nice_lady wrote: mrfxit - 2021-08-19 15:36:00 |
| 24 | mrfxit wrote:
Nitpicker ???? nice_lady - 2021-08-19 15:57:00 |
| 25 | And in the XP days there were not many 64 bit processors. ofaatudesigns - 2021-08-19 16:56:00 |
| 26 | ofaatudesigns wrote: mrfxit - 2021-08-19 17:39:00 |
| 27 | But in those old days, 1 GB was plenty. tygertung - 2021-08-19 19:55:00 |
| 28 | Anyway, I am doing a whole bunch of updates on Windows 10. I have downloaded a special programme to convince Windows 10 to update to the latest version. To be fair, even Ubuntu had got jammed on an update today, it was an "unattended-upgr" which was locking up dpkg, but i was able to stop it and change the setting to prompt before doing the security upgrades, that way it happens out in the open. But the Windows 10 upgrades seem to be taking some hours for some reason. Perhaps it would actually be quicker to just backup the home folder and just install the latest version?! tygertung - 2021-08-19 19:59:00 |
| 29 | You can install the newest version 'over the top' of the existing installation. However make sure you choose the correct option or it'll wipe everything and you'll get Windows and nothing else. nice_lady - 2021-08-19 20:17:00 |
| 30 | ofaatudesigns wrote: not to mention 64 bit XP and the very few apps that were 64 bit, were worse performing than 32 bit versions of the same OS & apps. bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-08-19 21:54:00 |
| 31 | Was updating with the Windows update assistant for about three hours yesterday, and got it going again today, been updating for about 4 hours so far. :) tygertung - 2021-08-20 13:16:00 |
| 32 | nice_lady wrote:
Yeah probably a bad idea as Windows probably won't be best pleased with the Linux partition, and especially will want to wipe GRUB off the master boot record leading to there being no way to boot into Linux. tygertung - 2021-08-20 13:17:00 |
| 33 | OK it has restarted after spending about 4.5 hours updating from version 1909. The windows update assistant is now trying to update from version 1909 for the third time! tygertung - 2021-08-20 14:33:00 |
| 34 | tygertung wrote:
Laughing docpc - 2021-08-20 17:41:00 |
| 35 | someone needs an SSD king1 - 2021-08-20 18:59:00 |
| 36 | Yeah it would probably do well with an SSD. Windows seems to hammer the hard drive somewhat harder than Linux so it would have more of an impact. It has restarted and is still on 1909, starting to give up hope that it will actually upgrade. tygertung - 2021-08-20 19:16:00 |
| 37 | any error messages after it finishes king1 - 2021-08-20 19:27:00 |
| 38 | you can try updating off a usb stick instead, otherwise might have to have a look in the log files king1 - 2021-08-20 19:30:00 |
| 39 | king1 wrote:
Yup. Someone stil uses a mechanical hdd? Jeez. nice_lady - 2021-08-20 19:45:00 |
| 40 | nice_lady wrote:
Nope, this is the fault of Windows, not the fault of the awful hardware which I'm sure will be in this laptop..... cube_guy - 2021-08-21 00:30:00 |
| 41 | It's a mid-priced laptop from 2018. Laptops still come with Hard Drives even now. But not sure why Windows has updated from 1909 four times and still on 1909. Maybe it is due to the hardware. tygertung - 2021-08-21 09:36:00 |
| 42 | tygertung wrote:
theres NO way I'd buy a device with a mechanical drive now. nice_lady - 2021-08-21 10:24:00 |
| 43 | nice_lady wrote:
Yeah, maybe not now, but perhaps you did a number of years ago? tygertung - 2021-08-21 11:18:00 |
| 44 | tygertung wrote:
Still have the receipt for a Toshiba laptop Hubby bought in 2010 which had a mechanical drive. The next day he imaged that drive onto an SSD he'd bought . The SSD was one of the 'new breed' of such devices and it was a 60GB OCZ drive which cost $251. We bought a couple of Laptops in the intervening years which had mechanical drives but they immediately got changed for SSDs. nice_lady - 2021-08-21 11:23:00 |
| 45 | tygertung wrote:
Not as the main hard drive they don't, I just went through the websites for Harvey Norman and PB Tech and couldn't see a single laptop that was based on a mechanical hard drive only. Considering how cheap SSDs are now, it is madness to not sort out an upgrade to one, even if it is a few years old and had a mechanical drive out of the factory. cube_guy - 2021-08-21 14:23:00 |
