Wifi in teen's room - help and old lady out please
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| 1 | This message was deleted. vintage_betty - 2021-07-24 10:16:00 |
| 2 | Don't use extenders ever. Run cat6 (cable) and install a proper access point, e.g., Aruba Instant On, Ubiquiti Unifi. https://www.arubainstanton.com/files/SO_AIO.pdf EDIT: Data cabler would typically charge $150 for a single drop. Avoid electricians as most are clueless re termination of data cable, especially the older ones. Edited by spyware at 10:25 am, Sat 24 Jul spyware - 2021-07-24 10:22:00 |
| 3 | This message was deleted. vintage_betty - 2021-07-24 10:28:00 |
| 4 | spyware wrote: Extenders, which are devices which pick up your wifi then re-transmit it further can be fine. They do have limitiations on the amount of data they can handle sometimes. Theres another way which doesn't involve running wires everywhere. PowerLine Extenders. These are little gadgets which plug one end into a power socket with a cable running from the modem/router to it. This then sends the 'internet signal' through your power lines inside the house. You plug the receiving unit into a powersocket in sons room and then he'll get wifi there perfectly. These things are quite good. And relatively cheap. or: https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/search.html?q=pwerline+extende ETA: Some powerline extenders will only have facility for a cable connection to a computer at the 'far end' but many/most will also do WIFI. That's what you want. Edited by nice_lady at 10:34 am, Sat 24 Jul nice_lady - 2021-07-24 10:32:00 |
| 5 | Extenders are just a debauchery for use by the unenlightened (including nice_lady), they just retransmit the current wifi and create mass interference. You want the backhaul to be a physical copper wire. Running wire to an access point should always be first solution as is the BEST solution. https://linustechtips.com/topic/553102-do-not-use-wifi-exten Edited by spyware at 10:36 am, Sat 24 Jul spyware - 2021-07-24 10:34:00 |
| 6 | This message was deleted. vintage_betty - 2021-07-24 10:43:00 |
| 7 | Cable runs from the Ethernet port on the router to the access point in your son's room. Running data cable is a trade independent of electrical trades, electricians in NZ have no specific data cabling, be it fibre or copper, training. Most wire terminations in cabinets in new builds are substandard and wouldn't pass any to spec cable test. cat6 can pass 10 GbE (10 gigabit Ethernet - the layer 2 protocol that runs over the wire). Running cable isn't expensive, buying next to useless extenders wastes more time and money. I data cabled my old brick house, 18 cable runs, cabinet, RCD protected outlet, rack mount router and switch for $4500 ($2900 for the physical labour, cable and cabinet which was 12 person hours). Best investment ever. Edited by spyware at 10:52 am, Sat 24 Jul spyware - 2021-07-24 10:48:00 |
| 8 | spyware wrote:
After 20 years in computing and repairs I'm in no way 'unenlightened'. A cable certainly has better capability for uninterrupted transmitting of data BUT at the far end you're still going to need some kind of router to transmit the wifi signal. Not a lot of houses have cabled data all over the place. Perhaps it's more common in new builds but 'retro fitting' into an old house can be difficult and expensive. Wireless Extenders DO indeed work fine for a many many people. And I can't really see the point in the expense of running cables when you can use a PowerLine Extender. Which effectively does the same thing but by using the existing powercabling in the house. As for spywares preference for cables - you can indeed run them. You can run a cable anywhere you like. It doesn't have any reason or need to be visible. You an run it up the wall, inside the wall , in the roof cavity, under the house, wherever you want up to 100 Metres. But it may not be easy and that'll translate to not cheap also. nice_lady - 2021-07-24 10:53:00 |
| 9 | spyware wrote:
The OP may not even want to spend a few hundred running a cable for the son to get wifi at his room. And if it's a rental then running cable might be out of the question. And why don't you quantify this statement: "buying next to useless extenders wastes more time and money.".......... What makes you think they're 'next to useless' if they sell quite a number of them nationwide. ? Your own preferences ? As I've stated I've seen many people use them. You seem to like pontificating with unsubstantiated claims. nice_lady - 2021-07-24 10:56:00 |
| 10 | We have a MikroTik extender thingymybob which works really well. It was explained to us more as a wireless wire than an extender. With that we can access our internet from the neighbours on our phones. maddie44 - 2021-07-24 11:27:00 |
| 11 | Cable it. In other words, keep it simple, get max reliable bandwidth and eliminate the unreliability of poor preformance of anything that's non cable. Been there done pretty well all of the options but will not now install anything except cable. tegretol - 2021-07-24 11:43:00 |
| 12 | Just get a TP link router with a couple of external antennae. They are real cheap second hand and give way better wifi range than a router with an internal antennae. tygertung - 2021-07-24 11:51:00 |
| 13 | vintage_betty wrote: My translation is that he would like you to buy him a new phone for his birthday. My desktop in the farthermost room is connected by wifi and I listen to YouTube while doing other things. My laptop in the lounge is connected by wifi and I listen to the radio over wifi and bluetooth to the stereo while doing other things. Our TV is connected to wifi and we don't use an aerial. I've had this wifi router for a few years, several houses. My opinion is that you can optimise your wifi channels for better reception, you can contact your broadband provider and ask for a new free wifi router, but ultimately, he would still like a new phone for his birthday. I hope my translation helps. gyrogearloose - 2021-07-24 14:59:00 |
| 14 | vintage_betty wrote:
Unless you have underfloor or ceiling access, cupboards etc to install the data cabling you next nest option is Powerline adapters with Wifi. Been involved with computers for over 40 years and ex NZPO / Telecom installer, faultman. exwesty - 2021-07-24 18:07:00 |
| 15 | exwesty wrote:
Actually he won't need to plug his laptop into the unit in his room if you buy a wifi capable one he'll just be able to connect wirelessly to it exactly as the phone, or any other wifi capable device can. Edited by nice_lady at 6:11 pm, Sat 24 Jul nice_lady - 2021-07-24 18:10:00 |
| 16 | spyware wrote: headcat - 2021-07-24 18:18:00 |
| 17 | headcat wrote: In the same way that your visiting your GP and he thinks "this guy is an unemployed drug taker, I won't bother doing the right thing here....." ? tegretol - 2021-07-24 18:25:00 |
| 18 | vintage_betty wrote:
So simple - tell him he can't be on his laptop and listen to Youtube at the same time. And if he wants to do that, get out and get a job to pay for the 'whatevers' himself. My son and daughter were out earning at 16 and paid for the extras (BBS's, extra phonelines etc). Now they both have great jobs. athena2 - 2021-07-24 18:31:00 |
| 19 | We used a wifi extender, TP-Link in our previous house and it worked fine. You have to plug it in where you still get good reception, e.g. a half way point between the router and your boy’s room. Have never tried the power extenders but they sound like a good solution. I can’t see any point in spending thousands on cabling as your son will no doubt be off in a couple of years doing his own thing. mcdaff - 2021-07-25 01:00:00 |
| 20 | power extenders are useless if your fuseboard has a RCD unit installed and they also dont work if plugged into a surge board trade_menow - 2021-07-25 01:57:00 |
| 21 | vintage_betty wrote: Mesh is great! and excellent and proven solution. Sure he could have an extender, you could try one of those plug into power point wifi boosters, but really mesh is a great idea. lythande1 - 2021-07-25 08:43:00 |
| 22 | The member deleted this message. vintage_betty - 2021-07-25 09:18:00 |
| 23 | A cable will STILL require a wifi transmitter device at the far end so the boy can get a wifi signal. nice_lady - 2021-07-25 09:50:00 |
| 24 | You could just do the 'mesh' or the PowerLine extender system . Either will save you running wires. And not be particularly expensive. Eta: Mesh is just a fancy wifi extender system essentially. Edited by nice_lady at 9:55 am, Sun 25 Jul nice_lady - 2021-07-25 09:52:00 |
| 25 | tegretol wrote:
What a stupid comment. Idiotic ronaldo8 - 2021-07-25 11:05:00 |
| 26 | nice_lady wrote: Why? Is he too lazy to plug an RJ45 into his laptop? tegretol - 2021-07-25 11:56:00 |
| 27 | tegretol wrote:
Laptop by definition - a portable device. But of course you know that. nice_lady - 2021-07-25 12:21:00 |
| 28 | tegretol wrote:
Laptop by definition - a portable device. But of course you know that. Oh and otherwise how do you expect him to plug his phone into an RJ45 cable? nice_lady - 2021-07-25 12:23:00 |
| 29 | athena2 wrote: Post of the thread! socram - 2021-07-27 10:24:00 |
| 30 | Try one of these. Get one with a 2 or 3 antennae: tygertung - 2021-07-27 11:26:00 |
