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With W11 requiring new processors, what are the pitfalls (apart from costs!!) of replacing my current processor. MB is GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 and I currently have a Ryzen 5 1600 and considering a AMD Ryzen 5 5600X. It has the same AMD AM4 socket...so should be easy??
Planning ahead, right now.

fishb8 - 2021-07-01 10:56:00
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You need to check that your motherboard can be updated to support Zen3

I wouldn't worry about it for now, no telling what the final requirements will be or whether Windows 11 will actually be a useful upgrade.

vtecintegra - 2021-07-01 11:04:00
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pretty sure your MOBO won't support it

king1 - 2021-07-01 11:04:00
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Here you go
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-rev-
1x/support#support-cpu

king1 - 2021-07-01 11:05:00
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looks like it has a TPM module header though which could be a plus

king1 - 2021-07-01 11:10:00
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As Vtec says, I would be waiting it out and seeing what happens, why spend money now when you may not need to.

If you absolutely had to change the CPU though I would be looking at the Ryzen 3600. There is a reason it was the bang for buck champion of its generation - it would be a solid upgrade over your first gen Ryzen at a good price and also be fully compatible with your board.

cube_guy - 2021-07-01 11:27:00
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king1 wrote:

Here you go
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-rev-
1x/support#support-cpu

I have a earlier gen Ryzen type motherboard with a 2nd gen Ryzen chip just an all inclusive 2400G. Which is prob fine for most of my daily stuff. A bit slow for photography editing. Ya ... as the table I think shows the first gen motherboard with the firmware update could support up to the 3rd version like 3XXX series chips but not anything more newer than that. Still quite good thou compared to Intel products. You would need a newer motherboard. When the motherboard is changed Windows activation will reask for activation right unless you had a retail copy rather than a OEM edition.

Edited by rayonline_tm at 11:30 am, Thu 1 Jul

rayonline_tm - 2021-07-01 11:28:00
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rayonline_tm wrote:

I have a earlier gen Ryzen type motherboard with a 2nd gen Ryzen chip just an all inclusive 2400G.

Not really. Even though it has a name suggesting that it is "second gen" the 2200G and 2400G were actually based on first gen Ryzen CPU architecture.

cube_guy - 2021-07-01 12:30:00
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rayonline_tm wrote:

I have a earlier gen Ryzen type motherboard with a 2nd gen Ryzen chip just an all inclusive 2400G. Which is prob fine for most of my daily stuff. A bit slow for photography editing. Ya ... as the table I think shows the first gen motherboard with the firmware update could support up to the 3rd version like 3XXX series chips but not anything more newer than that. Still quite good thou compared to Intel products. You would need a newer motherboard. When the motherboard is changed Windows activation will reask for activation right unless you had a retail copy rather than a OEM edition.

I'm more into photography than gaming.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1567012012.jpg
Chipset has been updated to support zen 3
Have 16GB 2660 plus Gforce GTX950
I have a retail W10 but don't intend changing MB.
So could I just remove existing processor and re-install a new one?

fishb8 - 2021-07-01 12:40:00
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What I would do is make sure you log into a Microsoft account before you change anything which saves your Windows 10 key to that account. If things were to then go pear-shaped with your Windows installation after doing the CPU change you could then reinstall Windows, and then log back into that Microsoft account in the new Windows installation and it will just activate. I have found Windows 10 to be much more forgiving to hardware changes then previous Windows versions. I have used the same Windows 10 key for 4 completely different hardware configs without issue - I have a gaming PC that gets upgraded often.

cube_guy - 2021-07-01 12:54:00
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fishb8 wrote:

I'm more into photography than gaming.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1567012012.jpg
Chipset has been updated to support zen 3
Have 16GB 2660 plus Gforce GTX950
I have a retail W10 but don't intend changing MB.
So could I just remove existing processor and re-install a new one?

yep but you would be limited to a 3600X, personally I would save yourself the $50 difference and go with the 3600 since it doesn't really add that much...
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD
-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X/2984v
s3481vs3243vs3494

Edited by king1 at 12:58 pm, Thu 1 Jul

king1 - 2021-07-01 12:56:00
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fishb8 wrote:

I'm more into photography than gaming.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1567012012.jpg
Chipset has been updated to support zen 3
Have 16GB 2660 plus Gforce GTX950
I have a retail W10 but don't intend changing MB.
So could I just remove existing processor and re-install a new one?

Yep as I said and referring to that CPU supported list for that motherboard someone else posted. You are limited to a Ryzen 3000 series CPU. Not the 5000 series you enquired about.

If you are dead set with a 5000 series CPU then you would need another motherboard.

Edited by rayonline_tm at 1:20 pm, Thu 1 Jul

rayonline_tm - 2021-07-01 13:17:00
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king1 wrote:

yep but you would be limited to a 3600X, personally I would save yourself the $50 difference and go with the 3600 since it doesn't really add that much...
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD
-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X/2984v
s3481vs3243vs3494

Why would they be limited to a 3600x? There is no reason why you couldn't chuck an 8 or 16 core Ryzen 3000 CPU into that board too?

cube_guy - 2021-07-01 13:33:00
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fishb8 wrote:


Chipset has been updated to support zen 3

No it hasn't - the 3xxx CPUs are Zen2

vtecintegra - 2021-07-01 13:41:00
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cube_guy wrote:

Why would they be limited to a 3600x? There is no reason why you couldn't chuck an 8 or 16 core Ryzen 3000 CPU into that board too?

of course, but it seemed quite clear OP wasn't thinking Ryzen 7/9 - only limitation is the budget of course...

Edited by king1 at 2:21 pm, Thu 1 Jul

king1 - 2021-07-01 14:18:00
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vtecintegra wrote:

No it hasn't - the 3xxx CPUs are Zen2


CPU
AM4 Socket: Supports AMD 3rd Gen Ryzenâ„¢/ 2nd Gen Ryzenâ„¢/ 1st Gen Ryzenâ„¢/ 2nd Gen Ryzenâ„¢ with Radeonâ„¢ Vega Graphics/ 1st Gen Ryzenâ„¢ with Radeonâ„¢ Vega Graphics/ Athlonâ„¢ with Radeonâ„¢ Vega Graphics Processors
(Please refer "CPU Support List" for more information.)??

fishb8 - 2021-07-01 14:57:00
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Ryzen 1000 are Zen 1, Ryzen 2000 are Zen+, Ryzen 3000 are Zen 2 and Ryzen 5000 are Zen 3.

Although its generally accepted that Ryzen 3000 is "3rd gen" Ryzen, this isn't technically correct when you look at AMDs own naming schemes for each series of processor.

cube_guy - 2021-07-01 15:21:00
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being technically correct is the best kind of correct.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-07-02 08:41:00
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Agreed!

cube_guy - 2021-07-02 09:00:00
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