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Hi - not quite sure how to approach this - need some direction/advice please.I currently run a small online business with a website (trademe name will get you there) for which I paid a software licence and pay a mthly hosting fee (US based). I own the images, copy etc. It took me hundreds of hours and a lot of learning to create what I currently have. Over the last couple of years their service/updates/support etc has dropped and now they are asking to almost double the hosting fee to allow my site to be SSL (I have to provide the certificate). I think it's timely to look to move. Have looked at shopify - but it looks like similar amount of work to end up fairly much where I am - no real ownership/control. Also looked at Wordpress and have downloaded it and XAMMP to "play" here - looks like a lot of work! Is it worth doing something like this www.pagecloud.com/blog/2-ways-to-legally-copy-a-website and then finding a suitable NZ based hosting option. OR am I stressing about nothing in that maybe my sales are down because of my poor facebook posts, slack seo etc rather than no SSL
Thanks in advance for any responses - I do realise I am probably asking a "how long is a bit of string" question but I really can't keep drinking copious amount of coffee!

smittenforever - 2021-07-01 10:18:00
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Not having SSL won't be helping, Google is definitely prioritising sites that have SSL, especially when online purchasing involved.

You can get free SSL certificates here using Lets Encrypt and ZeroSSL
https://zerossl.com/

The increased cost is probably due to different plans in effect now, who knows, there is a lot of buyer lockin at play here. If the increase is not too
much might be better just to pay it in the interim and see how it goes.

Long term, if your market is NZ you should probably look to an NZ server. The likes of 1stdomains host the major web platforms like wordpress etc but that is definitely hard work in rebuilding it and then managing on your own, and from a tech POV its gets expensive... The likes of shopify etc have advantages in that respect but also the buyer lockin...

The website copying like httrack etc only takes a static copy, it might get you all you photos and content in one go but will not allow you to rebuild a functional database driven webstore.

I don't know if there are automated ways to do this or even if it is possible with storesonline, someone else might have a better idea - some companies just like to make things difficult...

HTH

Edited by king1 at 10:54 am, Thu 1 Jul

king1 - 2021-07-01 10:49:00
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Thank you king1 - yes mostly NZ customers so will certainly look towards NZ hosting etc. I have all the photos, text etc all saved here its the code around it all thats the hassle. i can even save all the colours, styles, fonts etc just can't get at the actual bits that drive it. Storesonline were great - when doing the original setup the learning curve was horrendous but they were helpful - not so much now - drat. Thanks for your input.

smittenforever - 2021-07-01 11:52:00
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Anyone looking for hosting might notice that Openhost has now followed Domains4less (both NZ owned?) into the clutches of Crazy Domains . . . (?) which is Singapore owned.

Now with no substantial NZ based hosting left AFAIK, Namecheap is probably a reasonable bet. We've had reliability, security - and level of tech support never reached by Openhost, and at vastly lower cost.

thetechman - 2021-08-26 21:29:00
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Affordabledomains is based in NZ has been good

mrfxit - 2021-08-27 08:12:00
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Crazy Domains is operated by Dreamscape Networks International Pte Ltd

Openhost, Domains4Less, are owned now by Umbrellar....they were/are part of Webdrive.

Umbrellar operates several brands both active and retired.[citation needed]

Umbrellar Cloud
Umbrellar Online
Openhost
Freeparking
Domains4Less
WebDrive
WebFarm
2day.com
Internet Services Group Ltd.
Flexihost
Synapse Search
Webbase
Hosting Direct

I used to work there

lythande1 - 2021-08-27 08:19:00
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smittenforever wrote:

I have all the photos, text etc all saved here its the code around it all thats the hassle. i can even save all the colours, styles, fonts etc just can't get at the actual bits that drive it.

Don't know that it'll help but if you goto your website using say chrome for example and RIGHT clik in the page somewhere you'll get a menu you can then click on 'view source code'. That gives you a LOT of the 'background' code. The html colour codes and formatting styles and all sorts of stuff.

nice_lady - 2021-08-27 08:21:00
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smittenforever wrote:

I paid a software licence and pay a mthly hosting fee (US based). I think it's timely to look to move. !


Don't be offended but it's kind of yuk.
How about this?https://www.zeald.com/gem-
.html
Zeald were one of Webdrives customers, probably still are...I don't know, they were a website company themselves and designed/managed a lot of business and some local govt ones as well.
Or a lot of businesses made their own using Wordpress. Webdrive, Openhost etc all had guides on how to DIY.
Stick with a reputable NZ company and have a look on their sites to see what they offer and what guides they provide.
Doesn't have to be one of Umbrellars companies, Geekzone is probably a better place to go ask.

lythande1 - 2021-08-27 08:30:00
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lythande1 wrote:


Openhost, Domains4Less, are owned now by Umbrellar....they were/are part of Webdrive.

An email received from OpenHost on 19 August clearly states:

[We are pleased to announce that Openhost and its products, services and customer subscriptions have recently been acquired by a leader in the hosting and domain name services field, Crazy Domains.]

thetechman - 2021-08-27 14:52:00
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Wordpress combined with Woocommerce is incredibly easy to use. I've set up clients who are, let's just say "technically challenged" who have picked it up and ran with it.

I host them on a dedicated server located in Auckland for snappy performance.

My name at the google place if you want to talk more. (I am a freelancer, not an agency so my rates reflect that...)

lordtopcat - 2021-08-31 16:55:00
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