So, I had to return the last laptop....
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| 1 | MSI ALpha17 A4DEK Because it was faulty. I am now looking for a replacement. Which one would you choose? Do you have a favorite brand? I am leaning toward the HP Omen because of HP build quality. I won't be gaming it, just general use. I've now owned a 17.3" and decided new laptop does not have to be 17.3", 15.6" is fine. The omen has a good screen while the asus tuff has a poor screen, the rog has a 2 yr warranty where the others only have 1 yr. https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NBKHNB151070IB/HP-Omen-15-d or or or Please help me choose. Perhaps you have a favorite that isn't listed. Let me know and I will consider it with a bit of research. TIA muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 06:42:00 |
| 2 | For what purpose? Gaming laptops are good for their purpose but make for terrible general usage systems. vtecintegra - 2021-06-19 08:12:00 |
| 3 | What about an IBM (Nowt Lenovo) Thinkpad? I heard they are the best. tygertung - 2021-06-19 08:21:00 |
| 4 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad tygertung - 2021-06-19 08:22:00 |
| 5 | vtecintegra wrote:
Yeah - usage requirements would be a good place to start to assist anyone thinking of making suggestions. nice_lady - 2021-06-19 08:22:00 |
| 6 | vtecintegra wrote: I am mainly going for a gaming laptop because they are fairly high spec'd for the $$'s. It will be for general use, and basically playing around. Trade me, internet browsing music, videos, ripping cd/dvd's, generally just mucking around. Why are they terrible for general use, if you don't mind me asking? I have 2500 to play with so what do you suggest then? muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 08:35:00 |
| 7 | tygertung wrote: Thanks. I will have a look at them. Any particular model no.? muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 08:37:00 |
| 8 | tygertung wrote: WOW they've been used in outer space. Impressive. muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 08:38:00 |
| 9 | I prefer 15.6" or 17.3" if possible. Thanks. muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 08:42:00 |
| 10 | There's a good sale on at Dell for the XPS 15 at the moment, you can get a good 15" one for $2500. They are fantastic laptops, basically the MacBook of the PC world in terms of build quality. With gaming laptops the amount of heatsinking and fans they need tends to make them bulky and noisy, and not very good on the batteries. You're spending a lot of money for a graphics card you're not going to use much, when you could be getting a better display or SSD. drsr - 2021-06-19 09:13:00 |
| 11 | Lenovo here, but I come from a business background and they are the standard there by which all else are measured. Do be aware that they have different lines/series, so some are aimed at students, some gaming, some professional etc. soundsgood - 2021-06-19 09:22:00 |
| 12 | muppet_slayer wrote:
Gamble it on lotto ? nice_lady - 2021-06-19 09:26:00 |
| 13 | drsr wrote: Thanks. Yes I hear you. muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 09:27:00 |
| 14 | nice_lady wrote: LOL muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 09:28:00 |
| 15 | soundsgood wrote: Ok thanks. I will beware. I will most likely post my decision in here once I decide and gauge the reaction muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 09:30:00 |
| 16 | Did Lenovo fix that issue with their keyboards a couple or so years ago where the customers were complaining that the enter and shift buttons, (if I recall correctly), were poorly placed/sized and a P.I.T.A for touch typists, who kept hitting the wrong keys ? nice_lady - 2021-06-19 09:31:00 |
| 17 | yep forget the gaming laptops, you should be looking at the business grade laptops, they often have a three year warranty king1 - 2021-06-19 09:35:00 |
| 18 | king1 wrote: Ok thanks King1. Some suggestions would be great. muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 09:43:00 |
| 19 | Computer Lounge has far better after sales service than PBTech. lythande1 - 2021-06-19 09:48:00 |
| 20 | lythande1 wrote: Thanks. Yeah I know to stay away from the big stores like Harvey Normans and Noel Leemings because they sell crap. The faulty one I just sent back was through PB's and I wasn't impressed with their after sales service. Left me hanging and I didn't know what was happening with my return until I rang them a few times. I do like Computer Lounge, I bought my Sons laptop through them and I haven't need them for after sales service yet, touch wood. muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 09:58:00 |
| 21 | muppet_slayer wrote:
Cheaper 'gaming' laptops go all in for specs at the expense of build quality, battery life and portability. vtecintegra - 2021-06-19 13:09:00 |
| 22 | just get a cheaper one and put in a SSD, it's easy to do. Make sure you don't accidentally block the ventilation hole on the side and it should last for years. If you want really to avoid expensive Windows updates, install Linux Mint, it's also free and easy to do. stylus1 - 2021-06-19 13:35:00 |
| 23 | stylus1 wrote:
"Expensive Windows Updates" ??? nice_lady - 2021-06-19 13:53:00 |
| 24 | stylus1 wrote:
The last time I paid anything to Microsoft was when I purchased Windows 7. Since then I have gone to Windows 8, and now Windows 10 and I would guess soon to be Windows 11 without paying anything and the same licence key being used on multiple combinations of hardware. What expensive updates? Edited by cube_guy at 1:54 pm, Sat 19 Jun cube_guy - 2021-06-19 13:54:00 |
| 25 | Brand wise I've always gone for HP, had several over the years and have never had one have any issues of any kind, as far as gaming ones go, go for it, its what I have currently and the comments re battery life etc I don't think are really valid, mine lasts an easy 5 hours which is enough for me and it isnt really any more bulky or noisier than any other models I've had. kingfisher21 - 2021-06-19 14:13:00 |
| 26 | Had HP on and off for 10 years and still use the old Vista one for Scrabble. bryshaw - 2021-06-19 14:27:00 |
| 27 | Hubbys not happy about his HP Pavillion home user model. The hinges on one end have detached from the mounts in the case so it's got some seriously kickass sticky tape holding it together. And the battery pretty much died about a year ago, (apprx 1.5 yrs after purchase). Doesn't matter much as he doesn't do tech callout work any more really so the laptop stays at home on his lap lol and runs happily so long as it's plugged in. But anyway the build quality seems a bit lacking. It was a $1000 purchase about 2.5 years ago. AS I say it's still going but only just lol. In saying that I had an Asus Zenbook which I thought would have been good quality, ($1500 at purchase approx 6 yrs ago), with a very similar hinge issue also. Gave it away in the end. Wasn't more than about 3 years old. Currently I have an Acer which seems ok so far. Except that it's getting a tiny bit loose feeling on one hinge. Seriously thinking of getting tablets, perhaps even Ipad, next time with bluetooth keyboard. NO hinges ! Edited by nice_lady at 3:08 pm, Sat 19 Jun nice_lady - 2021-06-19 15:05:00 |
| 28 | It's such a hard decision. In all the research I have been doing I keep coming back to a gaming laptop. When you think about it gamers can be quite hard on their laptops. I know I was quite hard on the joy stick or controller when ever I played games so the keyboard would get a hammering, one would think, certain keys would anyway. The thermals will get a work out too. So the unit will have to be built strong for all the wear and tear it will sustain. I wouldn't be pushing it at all so a gaming laptop would have an easy life If I were to get one. Once I set mine up in the spot it will be living not even the lid gets closed. I make a habit of leaving it up and not closing it every night so even the hinges won't get a work out. I close it now and again so they don't seize in one position though. My heart and my head is with a gaming machine and I think I have found it. I did comparing and where gains were made there were also losses, a good screen but lack lustre cpu and gpu, or a good cpu and gpu with a bad screen and ram etc etc. I feel I have struck a balance bit like someone buying a v8 to do the shopping in, the power is there for when you need it. That is how I view the laptop I have chosen. Take nice_lady's experience. They thought they were buying great laptops yet one was dead 1 1/2 years in and the other 3 yrs in so even the mainstream laptops aren't that strong. It is my belief that gaming laptops have to be built fairly strong as I say to withstand all the extra work they have to do when gaming. I don't mind big and bulky either. But as I say thank you all for your input. muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 15:45:00 |
| 29 | I have chosen this one... https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NBKHNB151070IB/HP-Omen-15-d I know I said PBtech didn't deal with my last warranty claim very well, they did refund me quite quickly so I am not afraid to use them again, and atleast I know the drill and know what to expect. Fell free to pick my choice to bits if you wish. muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 15:50:00 |
| 30 | There will always be good and bad in a purchase. But in saying that you should get mostly 'good' and perhaps only the odd little niggle of bad ! It looks kickass so - Enjoy. Oh and neither of those two laptops I mentioned actually completely died they just deteriorated markedly. Hubby still has his as it does what he wants - for now. We gave away the Zenbook. It was nice while it lasted. A bit of reading showed the hinge issue wasn't unknown for sure. They've improved them since or so I believe. Edited by nice_lady at 4:01 pm, Sat 19 Jun nice_lady - 2021-06-19 15:59:00 |
| 31 | Thanks Nice_lady, yes I hope more good than bad. I have to go with my head and my heart right otherwise I could end up not very happy, and this way I can't blame 'the people on the net' LOL. I hope it is a better choice than my last one though! muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 16:09:00 |
| 32 | nice_lady wrote: Hehe Yeah sorry my fault again. I really need to learn to read and comprehend what I read. Sorry about that and yes I did notice I had said the wrong thing LOL muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 16:11:00 |
| 33 | The blimmin laptop company's know the hinges will be one of the most used parts of a laptop you'd think they would spend a few more dollars o them and produce better ones. I suppose though they need to manufacture faults into the laptop and the hinges are a good place to make them fail after a couple of years. It easier to cause a hinge to fail at a certain point in time than the electronics. muppet_slayer - 2021-06-19 16:18:00 |
| 34 | Well I guess it helps them sell more devices. As I say we are definitely going to consider tablet next time....no hinges. nice_lady - 2021-06-19 16:23:00 |
