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I thought windows 10 was going to be the last?

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/3/22466394/microsoft-windows
-11-launch-teaser-rumors

nzoomed - 2021-06-04 23:21:00
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It's an update not a toss the current one and buy this.
Still changes, but via update.

If you care...I abandoned Windows some years ago now (after 7) and haven't missed it once.

lythande1 - 2021-06-05 08:46:00
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lol, its a revamp of the UI, queue every user @ home going "wheres my stuff". "can I make it look like the old one" "why do they do this?"

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-06-05 14:49:00
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Yeah my favorite is the "Windows Classic" theme in Windows XP. The old Windows 95 look.

Windows 10 is so inferior it can't do it.

Windows 7 can do it. Bring back old skool windows.

tygertung - 2021-06-05 17:53:00
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They are probably just trying to make it look like a smartphone.

tygertung - 2021-06-05 17:54:00
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tygertung wrote:

Yeah my favorite is the "Windows Classic" theme in Windows XP. The old Windows 95 look.

Windows 10 is so inferior it can't do it.

Windows 7 can do it. Bring back old skool windows.


Basically they are releasing a new windows a couple of times or more every year.
I would like it if they could introduce customizable desktop themes and icon packs like Linux can.

I hate the boring flat sharp edged theme on win10.
Wine aero glass was nice. They could have improved on that.

lythande1 wrote:

It's an update not a toss the current one and buy this.
Still changes, but via update.

If you care...I abandoned Windows some years ago now (after 7) and haven't missed it once.

I do like Linux and have a machine with it, just waiting for it to become more user friendly.

nzoomed - 2021-06-07 08:59:00
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https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-pulls-all-future-wi
ndows-10-updates-for-now

nzoomed - 2021-06-09 23:44:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

lol, its a revamp of the UI, queue every user @ home going "wheres my stuff". "can I make it look like the old one" "why do they do this?"


And "I hate it"

lythande1 - 2021-06-10 08:48:00
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nzoomed wrote:

... just waiting for it to become more user friendly.


We've been waiting 15 years for that! Plus we cant be bothered with all that Unix programming.

eaglefan - 2021-06-10 12:47:00
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I don't mind it. But I DO dislike it when the Ms backroom boys'n'girls change things for no good reason and no apparent gain.

nice_lady - 2021-06-10 12:53:00
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nice_lady wrote:

I don't mind it. But I DO dislike it when the Ms backroom boys'n'girls change things for no good reason and no apparent gain.

Yep, Like when they replaced File Explorer 'Favourites' with 'Quick Access'.

In Explorer 'Favourites' you could rename the shortcut.
In 'Quick access', if you try rename the link, it renames the underlying folder.

Pain in the back if you had a folder structure like this...

D:\Projects\Project1\videos
D:\Projects\Project2\videos
D:\Projects\Project3\videos

In 'Favourites', you could have short cuts like this...

Project 1 Videos
Project 2 Videos
Project 3 Videos

In 'Quick access' you end up with this...
videos
videos
videos

Really grassed me off and all the other Devs at work. Never received an answer or explanation as to what MS were thinking.

Edited by cognition at 7:13 pm, Thu 10 Jun

cognition - 2021-06-10 19:04:00
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cognition wrote:

Yep, Like when they replaced File Explorer 'Favourites' with 'Quick Access'.

In Explorer 'Favourites' you could rename the shortcut.
In 'Quick access', if you try rename the link, it renames the underlying folder.

Pain in the back if you had a folder structure like this...

D:\Projects\Project1\videos
D:\Projects\Project2\videos
D:\Projects\Project3\videos

In 'Favourites', you could have short cuts like this...

Project 1 Videos
Project 2 Videos
Project 3 Videos

In 'Quick access' you end up with this...
videos
videos
videos

Really grassed me off and all the other Devs at work. Never received an answer or explanation as to what MS were thinking.

I changed the quick access view back to 'this pc'
View > Options > Change folder and search options.

Edited by king1 at 7:29 pm, Thu 10 Jun

king1 - 2021-06-10 19:28:00
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I'm liking what I see so far
https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/689137/7-big-ways-windows
-11-changes-windows-10/

king1 - 2021-06-17 23:20:00
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king1 wrote:

I changed the quick access view back to 'this pc'
View > Options > Change folder and search options.

There's a quicker way...
File > Change folder and search options.

muppet_slayer - 2021-06-18 00:01:00
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eaglefan wrote:


We've been waiting 15 years for that! Plus we cant be bothered with all that Unix programming.

I am finding Linux Mint very good, and fast, and it is free!
I have not needed to do any Unix programming or command line stuff.

trade4us2 - 2021-06-18 00:36:00
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eaglefan wrote:


cant be bothered with all that Unix programming.


What programming, Linux is GUI and has been for a long time.

lythande1 - 2021-06-18 11:40:00
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tygertung wrote:

They are probably just trying to make it look like a smartphone.


That was windows 8.

headcat - 2021-06-18 13:12:00
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king1 wrote:

I'm liking what I see so far
https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/689137/7-big-ways-windows
-11-changes-windows-10/

Doesn't appear to be anything useful for me there. It's easy to remove the search and other clutter on W10. I prefer having a row of most frequent apps along the bottom to open with the Windows-(Number) approach. Hopefully they haven't removed that capability.

'Pressing' the button at the bottom middle and things pop up? Where have we seen that - every day?

soundsgood - 2021-06-18 17:43:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

lol, its a revamp of the UI, queue every user @ home going "wheres my stuff". "can I make it look like the old one" "why do they do this?"

.

king1 wrote:

I'm liking what I see so far
https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/689137/7-big-ways-windows
-11-changes-windows-10/

And I've just read that they're putting the start button into the MIDDLE of the task bar. Now that's weird and it's gonna take some getting used to and a lot of people won't want that. I like it where it is. Why the hell would they do that ?

nice_lady - 2021-06-19 08:27:00
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nice_lady wrote:

And I've just read that they're putting the start button into the MIDDLE of the task bar. Now that's weird and it's gonna take some getting used to and a lot of people won't want that. I like it where it is. Why the hell would they do that ?

Possibly to make it similar in design to that of a mobile phone. Then the phone/tablet's home button could be used in a common way.

But hopefully the Windows-X menu will still pop up on the right rather than blocking the screen.

soundsgood - 2021-06-19 09:06:00
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Windows 11 has been leaked, overall it looks better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2Bl6O07nA

nzoomed - 2021-06-20 10:39:00
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bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-06-20 10:46:00
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This message was deleted.

king1 - 2021-06-20 15:10:00
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nzoomed wrote:

Windows 11 has been leaked, overall it looks better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2Bl6O07nA


When was the last time a windows release was "better"?

headcat - 2021-06-20 17:45:00
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nice_lady wrote:

And I've just read that they're putting the start button into the MIDDLE of the task bar. Now that's weird and it's gonna take some getting used to and a lot of people won't want that. I like it where it is. Why the hell would they do that ?

Once you activate the OS the start button and other icons can be moved back to the lefthand side if you wish.

muppet_slayer - 2021-06-20 18:00:00
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That's nice - for the techs. A lot of ordinary folks simply don't have a clue and they'll get confused.

nice_lady - 2021-06-20 18:10:00
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headcat wrote:


When was the last time a windows release was "better"?

XP, it was better than ME.

tygertung - 2021-06-20 21:53:00
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headcat wrote:


When was the last time a windows release was "better"?

7 was better than Vista, 10 was better than 8. So, quite often?

cube_guy - 2021-06-20 22:06:00
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That pattern says one good one, one dud one, so that means we are due for another dud one.

tygertung - 2021-06-20 22:15:00
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nice_lady wrote:

That's nice - for the techs. A lot of ordinary folks simply don't have a clue and they'll get confused.

Exactly.
I've been a PC owner now for 34 years and is it getting easier? Nope.

Every five minutes, there's an update of something or other and nine times out of ten, it isn't an improvement, just a change.

What used to be instinctive and logical and easily accessible, gets buried so that you have to Google to find out where to find it. The older we get, the less we like change for change's sake or without an explanation.

It is the law of diminishing returns. The major and most useful changes probably happened maybe ten years ago.

Edited by socram at 10:24 pm, Sun 20 Jun

socram - 2021-06-20 22:18:00
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wierd..? why was my message deleted?

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-06-22 20:44:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

wierd..-
? why was my message deleted?

Probably something to do with excrement

king1 - 2021-06-22 21:13:00
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lol, trademe is R18 isn't it ?

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-06-23 08:30:00
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Cars are constantly changing and evolving, coming out with new systems all the time. I don't see anyone complaining about them.

Microsoft is a business, what else are their employees going to do if they are not finding ways to earn their wages. Changing and upgrading their OS's is the only reason they are employed.

muppet_slayer - 2021-06-23 11:37:00
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Thats fine, just don't lie about windows 10 being the last desktop OS.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-06-23 15:49:00
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There will never be a last Windows OS until Microsoft goes under.

tygertung - 2021-06-23 21:34:00
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Who's noticed that a lot of PC's etc. won't be able to run Win11 without software and/or hardware changes? Try the MS 'PC Health Check' app on your PC.

davepro - 2021-06-29 19:14:00
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davepro wrote:

Who's noticed that a lot of PC's etc. won't be able to run Win11 without software and/or hardware changes? Try the MS 'PC Health Check' app on your PC.

The TPM 2.0 requirement doesn't seem to be a real barrier beyond insider testing, it seems to run OK on Core 2 Duo era hardware, haven't seen anyone try earlier.

fishbulb - 2021-06-29 19:58:00
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tygertung wrote:

There will never be a last Windows OS until Microsoft goes under.

thst not what MS said in press releases.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-06-30 17:50:00
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muppet_slayer wrote:

Cars are constantly changing and evolving, coming out with new systems all the time. I don't see anyone complaining about them.

Actually the resulting very expensive repair bills for even the smallest of issues, which often have to be electronically/computationally-
diagnosed are not something people like. The greater complexity isn't really an advantage when for instance your car goes into 'limp mode' just because some idiot programmed it to do so when the cigarette lighter fails !

nice_lady - 2021-06-30 17:59:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

thst not what MS said in press releases.

Maybe, but can you really see in 20 years time people still using the same OS? I mean XP looks a little dated now, as good as it is. Unless they are planning on going rolling release styles, there will always be new versions.

tygertung - 2021-06-30 20:39:00
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nice_lady wrote:

Actually the resulting very expensive repair bills for even the smallest of issues, which often have to be electronically/computationally-
diagnosed are not something people like. The greater complexity isn't really an advantage when for instance your car goes into 'limp mode' just because some idiot programmed it to do so when the cigarette lighter fails !

I miss the days when you could open the hood and see down to the driveway either side of the engine block. A handful or tools and you could fix almost anything. Of course, there was more regular need to.

But I still use Office 2010. Only 'upgraded' to that when they changed the file format.

soundsgood - 2021-06-30 21:54:00
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nice_lady wrote:

Actually the resulting very expensive repair bills for even the smallest of issues, which often have to be electronically/computationally-
diagnosed are not something people like. The greater complexity isn't really an advantage when for instance your car goes into 'limp mode' just because some idiot programmed it to do so when the cigarette lighter fails !

Once you learn why it does that then you can basically fix it yourself the next time it does it. I think there are far more good computerised cars out there than their are bad otherwise the manufacturer wouldn't last long in business. Like anything there is good and then you have the odd lemon. Going away from the point I was making which was I don't see many people complaining on TMMB about new computerised car systems but there certainly are a few when it comes to the home computer system. Like cars, you grit your teeth and buy it and learn how to use it knowing that possibly you might have to further learn it's systems in the future, you shouldn't buy it and then go on some random website chat board and moan about it. But I guess some people get some kind of relief from doing that. If microsoft don't evolve and change their computer systems why are they even operating then? That is their primary objective, if they are not doing that what are they there for? To the manufacturer they are making positive changes otherwise they wouldn't do it. They might find an alternative way of doing something that saves them a few mil, can't hold that against them.

Edited by muppet_slayer at 3:00 am, Thu 1 Jul

muppet_slayer - 2021-07-01 02:56:00
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nice_lady wrote:

Actually the resulting very expensive repair bills for even the smallest of issues, which often have to be electronically/computationally-
diagnosed are not something people like.

And you can't blame manufacturers of computerised cars for the expensive repair bills. They have created systems that can diagnose problems in car system from one handy location. The diagnostic connector where you plug the scanner in, that has made diagnosis easier as cars become more computerised. It is up to the workshop to set the costs for repairs. For instance I paid nearly $50 per scan at the garage I go to. Daylight robbery. They probably spent 15 minutes scanning my car, easy money to be made. So you can't really blame the car manufacturers for repair bills

muppet_slayer - 2021-07-01 12:24:00
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I don't know why people are complaining about windows 11 coming out. It was the only logical step after windows 10. It makes perfect sense to me, and that one probably won't be the last either.

muppet_slayer - 2021-07-01 12:27:00
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muppet_slayer wrote:

I don't know why people are complaining about windows 11 coming out. It was the only logical step after windows 10. It makes perfect sense to me, and that one probably won't be the last either.

because a few years back MS released a statement saying there will be no more new versions of Windows 10, only updates. But God forbid they changed their mind and now some precious pups are all up in arms by the about face, proof of impending doom etc... First world problems

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve
rsion-of-windows

Edited by king1 at 1:22 pm, Thu 1 Jul

king1 - 2021-07-01 13:18:00
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What is there in announcements to date about W11 that will make life better for the average PC/laptop user?

soundsgood - 2021-07-01 13:30:00
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I doubt it will make life better for the user, it doesn't usually with Windows releases, especially as this is an odd release. Even ones tend to be better.

tygertung - 2021-07-01 13:52:00
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soundsgood wrote:

What is there in announcements to date about W11 that will make life better for the average PC/laptop user?

that one really depends on the individual user, android apps and widgets for me...

king1 - 2021-07-01 14:11:00
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tygertung wrote:

I doubt it will make life better for the user, it doesn't usually with Windows releases, especially as this is an odd release. Even ones tend to be better.

7 was pretty good, and 8 was a learning curve at best.

king1 - 2021-07-01 14:23:00
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