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Can anyone recommend a compatible ink cartridge?

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We are looking for an alternative to expensive injet cartridges. Any recommendations? many thanks.

jack47 - 2021-05-14 19:39:00
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Yeah I've bought compatibles and never had issues. I very rarely buy them but last ones I got from trademe.

Inn fact over the many years I've owned printers I've NEVER bought the genuine carts. Not once.

Edited by nice_lady at 8:19 pm, Fri 14 May

nice_lady - 2021-05-14 20:18:00
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Never tried compatible cartridges, but found refill yourself kits horrible, messy, inaccurate colours, and dried in print head(had a Epson way back then)

Edited by gpg58 at 8:39 pm, Fri 14 May

gpg58 - 2021-05-14 20:39:00
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Epson Ecotank.....problem solved

skull - 2021-05-14 20:52:00
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skull wrote:

Epson Ecotank.....problem solved

Overpriced.

Laser if not wanting to print photos.

nice_lady - 2021-05-14 20:58:00
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www.affordableink.co.nz

Been using for years. Free delivery for cartridge sets.

wasgonna - 2021-05-14 21:14:00
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+1 for Affordable Ink.

sparkyz - 2021-05-14 21:43:00
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aftermarket ink sellers are lying two faced scammers, selling inferior products to schmucks.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-14 23:37:00
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The member deleted this message.

nice_lady - 2021-05-15 06:18:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

OEM ink sellers are lying two faced scammers, selling ridiculously overpriced products to schmucks.

Fixed that for you.

nice_lady - 2021-05-15 06:20:00
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Yep! That's much better and so nice of you.

wasgonna - 2021-05-15 08:30:00
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What you need to do is research the printer before you buy. Cheapie ones generally do bugger all pages, compatible cartridges or not.

Here:

https://costperpage.nz/

lythande1 - 2021-05-15 08:57:00
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Ink cartridge for what ? Are you a scam baiter?

intrade - 2021-05-15 10:01:00
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Its for a Canon MG 2560. But what is a scam baiter? cheers

jack47 - 2021-05-15 11:47:00
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https://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/printer-accessories-supp
lies/cartridges/canon-colour/listing-3090850312.htm?rsqid=d2
628ebb2d904a1dbccfc91edd8e3695-001

Have bought compatible inks from this seller a couple of times and had NO issues. Up to you what you do but as I've said I've NEVER bought the 'real' inks as they're a major ripoff.

You can't really go wrong. I have a canon pixma printer also at the moment running compatible ink. NO issues. Anyway those printers are ridiculously cheap and buying the 'real' ink would be insanity.

nice_lady - 2021-05-15 13:04:00
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Brandpost has never failed in about 10 years and free postage.

amasser - 2021-05-15 13:24:00
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They're genuine not compatible which the OP wants.

wasgonna - 2021-05-15 14:16:00
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This place is way cheaper than affordable ink, been using their ones for years and have had zero problems
https://www.widetrading.co.nz/

kingfisher21 - 2021-05-15 15:09:00
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nice_lady wrote:

Fixed that for you.

piss off. after market ink sellers will tell you your whole printer is buggered if one of their over used carts fails , (and their failure rate is through the roof compared to OEM inks). Just to get out of a refund.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-15 17:20:00
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jack47 wrote:

Its for a Canon MG 2560. But what is a scam baiter? cheers


only found that from there you look what other printer use the same cartridge. I usually buy a printer based on supply of the cheapest new ink like my epson printer I get all 4 color for 12 bux delivered from jerryscience trader on trademe
Scam baiter = is someone who writes to get a response, so they can then trick the responder in to handing them over money once they get a reply.

Edited by intrade at 6:42 pm, Sat 15 May

intrade - 2021-05-15 18:41:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

piss off. after market ink sellers will tell you your whole printer is buggered if one of their over used carts fails , (and their failure rate is through the roof compared to OEM inks). Just to get out of a refund.

wtf? Had Bad experience?

nice_lady - 2021-05-15 18:42:00
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i have the epson that uses that ink https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/computers/printer-ac
cessories-supplies/cartridges/epson-colour/listing/308879027
5?bof=eZyEndtF

jerryscience
100% positive feedback
ah yea i did pay close to 200$ for the printer new you dont save by getting a 40$ printer that uses 300$ ink

Edited by intrade at 6:54 pm, Sat 15 May

intrade - 2021-05-15 18:51:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

piss off. after market ink sellers will tell you your whole printer is buggered if one of their over used carts fails , (and their failure rate is through the roof compared to OEM inks). Just to get out of a refund.

Have been using generic inks for years from Affordable Inks and never had a problem. The only problem I have had was once when I bought a new printer which had a dud cartridge in it which rendered it inoperable and I was pissed off then because we lived 50kms from the shop where I bought it.

mcdaff - 2021-05-15 23:02:00
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intrade wrote:


only found that from there you look what other printer use the same cartridge. I usually buy a printer based on supply of the cheapest new ink like my epson printer I get all 4 color for 12 bux delivered from jerryscience trader on trademe
Scam baiter = is someone who writes to get a response, so they can then trick the responder in to handing them over money once they get a reply.

I think you may be confused in your definition of a scam baiter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scam_baiting

tygertung - 2021-05-16 08:06:00
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nice_lady wrote:

wtf? Had Bad experience?

its their standard practise.I used to do printer repairs, seen everything those tossers tried to pull on customers.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-16 08:24:00
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nice_lady wrote:


Laser if not wanting to print photos.


It makes no difference. you get the same with lasers, low page count for toner....you still need to research them first.
See the link I provided.

lythande1 - 2021-05-16 08:37:00
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25 I think that has also to do with how much effort the printer cartridge maker put in to blocking refill. I would say the worst ones will be where the cartridge is also the printer nozzle and then a chip to stop printing on it also.
I had some other cheap cartridges not from jerry, and they would say no ink if there is a power cut on restart on a random colour i only just fitted. As that printer also will not print if one ink is supposedly detected empty on my epson.

Edited by intrade at 11:03 am, Sun 16 May

intrade - 2021-05-16 11:01:00
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With my HP printer it makes it very difficult for me to use compatible cartridges as it senses them and starts putting up messages and making it difficult for me to get on with printing. I wouldn't get another HP for that reason.

kitty179 - 2021-05-16 11:12:00
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intrade wrote:

25 I think that has also to do with how much effort the printer cartridge maker put in to blocking refill. I would say the worst ones will be where the cartridge is also the printer nozzle and then a chip to stop printing on it also.
I had some other cheap cartridges not from jerry, and they would say no ink if there is a power cut on restart on a random colour i only just fitted. As that printer also will not print if one ink is supposedly detected empty on my epson.

Have you tried deactivating the ink level monitor, to get around it refusing fake cartridges, or to print when one is empty.

Quote- Override Procedures
When you access the preferences for your Epson printer through the Windows Control Panel, you'll see a button marked "Speed & Progress." Clicking on it brings up a dialog box in which you can activate a check box that disables the Epson Status Monitor. With the Status Monitor off the job, you can install and use refilled cartridges without seeing an "Ink Cartridge Error" message that won't go away. Without ink-level monitoring, however, you must keep a close eye on output quality and replace cartridges when you see the signs of low ink, including faint printouts and missing colors.
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On my canon you just hold down the STOP/RESET or RESUME/CANCEL button on the printer for at least 7 seconds, then release it. You need to do this procedure for each ink cartridge that is low or out of ink. - i only use black, all others have been empty for at least a year.

Edited by gpg58 at 11:18 am, Sun 16 May

gpg58 - 2021-05-16 11:16:00
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kitty179 wrote:

With my HP printer it makes it very difficult for me to use compatible cartridges as it senses them and starts putting up messages and making it difficult for me to get on with printing. I wouldn't get another HP for that reason.

Other makes do this also but HP had A VERY bad reputation in that field.

Edited by nice_lady at 11:49 am, Sun 16 May

nice_lady - 2021-05-16 11:49:00
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kitty179 wrote:

With my HP printer it makes it very difficult for me to use compatible cartridges as it senses them and starts putting up messages and making it difficult for me to get on with printing. I wouldn't get another HP for that reason.

Thats because HP spends millions on ink research & development, and know that when you put a 3rd party cartridge into a printer it could be anything from rain water to golden syrup inside of it, and you'll take issue with HP for any printing defects, which is insane.

If 3rd party ink cartridge makers were any good, they'd make a printer to run their shoddy product in.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-16 17:37:00
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1: https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news
/858824-hp-ink-cartridge-monopoly-class-action-lawsuit-settl
es-1-5m/

2: https://www.classaction.org/news/class-action-claims-hp-prin
ter-firmware-update-blocked-use-of-third-party-ink-toner-car
tridges

These products are FAR from 'shoddy' as you term them. What IS shoddy is the printer manufacturers treatment of people who have purchased their printers.

If their ink was indeed superior it should sell itself. But it's priced higher than the equivalent weight of gold. And it's not superior for most ordinary users.

nice_lady - 2021-05-16 17:51:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

If 3rd party ink cartridge makers were any good, they'd make a printer to run their shoddy product in.

What ?

Idiotic statement of the week.

Edited by nice_lady at 5:54 pm, Sun 16 May

nice_lady - 2021-05-16 17:52:00
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whats so bad about that? If they are such experts on the consumables, why don't they make a competitive printer product and clean up the industry ?

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-16 19:04:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

whats so bad about that? If they are such experts on the consumables, why don't they make a competitive printer product and clean up the industry ?

They are most likely more than happy with their product without diversifying into making printers. There are many reputable compatible cartridge companies doing very well, with many happy customers, so why would they want to do anything else?

kitty179 - 2021-05-16 19:12:00
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Exactly and it's stupid to suggest that some one who makes ink might have the manufacturing capability to make printers. That's an entirely different Ballgame.

And well said kitty179

nice_lady - 2021-05-16 19:44:00
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Happy to exist as parasites, yeah no surprise there.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-17 12:28:00
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Meanwhile actual manufacturers of printers are protecting their products reputations...
https://www.mybrother.co.nz/Public/warranty/Warrantyupgrade.
aspx#:~:text=Our%204%2Dyear%20warranty%20commitment,date%20y
ou%20purchase%20your%20machine.

Edited by bitsnpieces2020 at 12:39 pm, Mon 17 May

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-17 12:34:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

Happy to exist as parasites, yeah no surprise there.

You do realise that many manufacturers could therefore, by your definition, be regarded as "parasites"? For example, farmers are parasites because they don't make tractors. Electricians are parasites because they don't make appliances? Industries dovetail into each other, each providing another link in a chain. I really don't get your reasoning.

Actual manufacturers of printers will of course do all they can to sell their product and provide customer service. Please also understand that a bit of healthy competition can be a good thing; otherwise they wouldn't be putting up all their extra guarantees, would they? Without compatible cartridges there would be no need for printer manufacturers to fall over backwards to try to protect their own brand.

Economics and marketing are fascinating topics - you should study them sometime!

Edited by kitty179 at 1:12 pm, Mon 17 May

kitty179 - 2021-05-17 13:10:00
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Lol and we'll said again kitty

nice_lady - 2021-05-17 13:15:00
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wasgonna wrote:

www.affordableink.co.nz

Been using for years. Free delivery for cartridge sets.

yep found these during lock down and they are even better than the Epson ones because they are new, the printer recognises them and I am sure the black colour lasts longer. All for the price of just one Epson cartridge.

bryshaw - 2021-05-17 13:57:00
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What I didn't realise until recently was the definition of 'page' when manufacturers state number of pages a cartridge will do. For example, the small print for an HP cartridge states it means "5% coverage for an A4 page". That is ridiculous. Most printing jobs use up a whole lot more page than that.

kitty179 - 2021-05-17 14:39:00
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It's just one of the dirty tricks they use on their suckers - errr I mean customers.

nice_lady - 2021-05-17 14:56:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

Happy to exist as parasites, yeah no surprise there.

Do you only buy OEM parts and supplies for your car? Say you have a Toyota for example, you would only consider getting servicing and repairs done at Toyota, you need a new lightbulb, you would buy it from Toyota only, as all other manufacturers of parts for your Toyota are parasites?

If you needed some brake work done, you wouldn't go down to a brake specialist like Safe'r'Brakes, but down to Toyota only, as Safe'r'Brakes are parasites?

tygertung - 2021-05-17 15:00:00
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Some people ARE weird aren't they lol.

nice_lady - 2021-05-17 15:38:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

Thats because HP spends millions on ink research & development, and know that when you put a 3rd party cartridge into a printer it could be anything from rain water to golden syrup inside of it, and you'll take issue with HP for any printing defects, which is insane.

If 3rd party ink cartridge makers were any good, they'd make a printer to run their shoddy product in.

So I can buy a new printer for a few dollars. I once "bought one" for $0. When there was a special on and manufacture cashback. I'm sure you don't really think they can produce something as intricate as a printer and be making money on it when they give them away. They make their money selling ink. They will do their best to protect that income stream. I somehow doubt the cost of genuine cartridges is because of R&D costs.

If HP were any good, they would stop the shoddy practice of subsidising their printers and hyper inflating the cost of ink.

Edited by callum.irvine at 4:04 pm, Mon 17 May

callum.irvine - 2021-05-17 15:58:00
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It's probably more lucrative for them to work sales that way. After all they may only sell one printer to a customer over the time frame of a few yrs but they'll sell multiple ink refills to them.

nice_lady - 2021-05-17 16:26:00
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It seems to be only "Consumer" models which are sold this way. Commercial models are priced in the normal manner typically.

tygertung - 2021-05-17 17:48:00
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kitty179 wrote:

You do realise that many manufacturers could therefore, by your definition, be regarded as "parasites"? For example, farmers are parasites because they don't make tractors. Electricians are parasites because they don't make appliances? Industries dovetail into each other, each providing another link in a chain. I really don't get your reasoning.

Actual manufacturers of printers will of course do all they can to sell their product and provide customer service. Please also understand that a bit of healthy competition can be a good thing; otherwise they wouldn't be putting up all their extra guarantees, would they? Without compatible cartridges there would be no need for printer manufacturers to fall over backwards to try to protect their own brand.

Economics and marketing are fascinating topics - you should study them sometime!

they don't manufacture anything, they refill old cartridges that were designed and made by the OEM. If they made them, they'd no doubt be breaking copyright of the cartridge design. Also its in brothers interest to offer that warranty because they are in competition with other real manufacturers like HP.

Edited by bitsnpieces2020 at 5:59 pm, Mon 17 May

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-17 17:58:00
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tygertung wrote:

Do you only buy OEM parts and supplies for your car? Say you have a Toyota for example, you would only consider getting servicing and repairs done at Toyota, you need a new lightbulb, you would buy it from Toyota only, as all other manufacturers of parts for your Toyota are parasites?

If you needed some brake work done, you wouldn't go down to a brake specialist like Safe'r'Brakes, but down to Toyota only, as Safe'r'Brakes are parasites?


I like your example, as I got quotes from repco & toyota for brake pads. and toyota was cheaper. Also there are many articles about 3rd party car parts being rubbbish. Maybe they look good to start with, but they seldom perform as well, or for as long.
I've had a similar experience with wreckers, charging more for a second part, than the same thing (a headlight) from toyota.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-17 18:02:00
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