Graphics card not detectedafter CPU upgrade
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| 1 | I have a Dell Optiplex 7010, and I upgraded from a Celeron G1610 to an i5-2310 which is much faster. However the graphics card isn't detected by the bios anymore when it is in the correct slot 1. I have to use slot 2 which I think is slower. Slot 1 is blue so probably runs at 16x and slot 2 is black and probably runs at 4x. The graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD 4550. Any ideas on how to fix it? I booted into Windows 7 and updated the bios, but no improvement. The other issue is I bought 8 GB of ram to upgrade from the 4GB, but it is 2133 MHz and the motherboard doesn't like it. Apparently the max is 1600 MHz. tygertung - 2021-05-06 19:20:00 |
| 2 | The BIOS doesn't detect it. You have a choice of inbuilt or PCIE, but that's all the bios would have. How do you know it isn't? Windows doesn't see it? lythande1 - 2021-05-06 19:28:00 |
| 3 | I know it isn't detected by the motherboard as no video signal supplied. It isn't a case of drivers, as you can't get into the OS. It only works if it is plugged into the wrong PCIE slot. If you plug the video into the built in graphics and go into the bios, the bios says there is nothing fitted to slot 1. When it is in slot 2, it works fine. tygertung - 2021-05-06 19:33:00 |
| 4 | But presumably slower. tygertung - 2021-05-06 19:33:00 |
| 5 | Why not Google that exact card and that motherboard. Guessing what slot does what is pointless. nice_lady - 2021-05-06 19:53:00 |
| 6 | tygertung wrote: So you don't actually know it is slower. As suggested do a bit of research. The way I see it is if you have 2 slots and it works in one of them then that is the correct slot for it. muppet_slayer - 2021-05-06 20:14:00 |
| 7 | Its a 4550, I'm sure it won't matter what pci-e slot it's in. What do you use the PC for? cube_guy - 2021-05-06 20:34:00 |
| 8 | I did google it, it seems that it is a 4x slot only. http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/dell-0wr7py/ Although it says here that "PCI-e x16 (wire x4) Connector (SLOT2)" https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/optix/en/opti Page 8. I bought the graphics card for $1, it didn't say what model it was. There are some higher end ones on TM for $15. I just mainly use the computer as a studio machine, for multi-track music recording, sound synthesis, and video editing. Also rendering video tracks. Also general internet. tygertung - 2021-05-06 21:17:00 |
| 9 | The working slot is more than fast enough. Personally I'd chuck that card entirely, it isn't really any faster than the integrated graphics on the new CPU anyway and is just going to use more power. vtecintegra - 2021-05-06 21:27:00 |
| 10 | This message was deleted. azza20 - 2021-05-06 22:50:00 |
| 11 | I didn't know what model it was when I bid on it, but I am looking for some high end ones now. tygertung - 2021-05-06 23:16:00 |
| 12 | $15 high end ones? nice_lady - 2021-05-07 06:40:00 |
| 13 | tygertung wrote:
Honesty take a step back and look at what you're trying to achieve. A faster graphics card isn't going to do much with such an old system, and is going to lead to complications with cooling and power supply. BTW I'm surprised you came across 2133 DDR3 - it's difficult to find anything faster than 1600 these days vtecintegra - 2021-05-07 06:48:00 |
| 14 | tygertung wrote: Depending what your rendering software is you might be able to get a graphics card that renders video using the GPU for faster processing. gyrogearloose - 2021-05-07 07:14:00 |
| 15 | vtecintegra wrote:
I just checked and it is 66% faster than integrated graphics which is a lot. I just invested $15 and bought a AMD HD8490 which is 238% faster, which is significant. There are much faster ones available, but they can cost $50, which is out of my budget. I just bought another 4 GB ram for $15 too. So have upgraded my machine for $45. It was free. You might sneer at an i5-2310 with 8 GB of ram and a HD8490 graphics card, but it runs lightning fast on Linux and Windows 7. I haven't tried it on Windows 10. tygertung - 2021-05-07 08:40:00 |
| 16 | tygertung wrote: lythande1 - 2021-05-07 08:54:00 |
| 17 | It was working in slot 1, then I changed the CPU, without removing the graphics card, and it stopped working in slot 1. tygertung - 2021-05-07 09:18:00 |
| 18 | 238% faster, sure that looks nice on paper. What does this mean in the real world? Do you think your PC is now going to perform 238% better than what it was before, for $15? I have a RTX3080 that according to that website, is 31,838% faster than the same HD 2000 in your CPU. Games do not perform 31,838% faster so what does that number even mean? Basically nothing. cube_guy - 2021-05-07 09:24:00 |
| 19 | cube_guy wrote:
So why do you not use the factory GPU then? tygertung - 2021-05-07 09:59:00 |
| 20 | I'm guessing the 16x slot might not be backwards compatible to older cards. Maybe the $1 card can only run at 4x ? bitsnpieces2020 - 2021-05-07 10:09:00 |
| 21 | tygertung wrote:
I have a custom built desktop PC which doesn't have a "factory" GPU. I want my games to run well and there are much better ways to see how the GPU that I choose is going to perform, rather than a website that says it is 31,000% better than a GPU from 10 years ago. That means nothing in the scheme of things. Edited by cube_guy at 10:14 am, Fri 7 May cube_guy - 2021-05-07 10:13:00 |
| 22 | bitsnpieces2020 wrote:
Well yes, one might think so, but it was previously working in that slot and suddenly stopped working when the cpu was changed. The current graphics card is a little older (about 4 years) so that could possibly be the issue, but not sure. I have ordered a new CPU which is a similar date to the computer, so will test that when it arrives. tygertung - 2021-05-07 14:06:00 |
| 23 | I received my AMD HD8490 graphics card and it works in slot 1, so it seems that the new i5 CPU didn't like the old card very much, and wouldn't talk to it in slot 1. The new card now works in the correct slot, so it must be more compatible with the CPU. Stranger than fiction eh? tygertung - 2021-05-10 14:26:00 |
| 24 | new graphics card, faster CPU - you'll be able to run WIn 10 on it now... Edited by king1 at 2:37 pm, Mon 10 May king1 - 2021-05-10 14:37:00 |
| 25 | . muppet_slayer - 2021-05-10 14:39:00 |
| 26 | It could have run Windows 10 before, but I am old school and prefer Windows 7. There might actually be a chance that I could run Windows XP on that machine, although it might be a wee bit tricky getting enough drivers. I have heard that solid state drives make the machine a bit faster so might have to see if I can get one of those real cheap, but it runs pretty fast now. tygertung - 2021-05-10 14:51:00 |
| 27 | An SSD will run at at least 3x the read/write speeds of any mechanical drive. Edited by nice_lady at 2:55 pm, Mon 10 May nice_lady - 2021-05-10 14:55:00 |
| 28 | tygertung wrote: A lot faster - transfer rate of SSD is about 5 times that of a mechanical drive so everything using disk access is a lot quicker ie bootup ~15 seconds, opening closing programs etc even internet access is because saving the temp files is so much quicker king1 - 2021-05-10 14:57:00 |
| 29 | OK, I've put a few bargain ones on my watchlist and have another 4gb of ram in the post, so should be able to get the machine real quick for cheap. It was already pretty fast, but should be a rocketship soon. tygertung - 2021-05-10 14:58:00 |
| 30 | tygertung wrote: It's great to hear it has worked out for you and your computer. Just watch out for secondhand ssd's, I purchased one a while back and it had logged 1772 days, still worked ok though at 96% health (hdsentinel). muppet_slayer - 2021-05-10 15:19:00 |
| 31 | muppet_slayer wrote: and there will probably be a bunch of relatively new SSDs with extremely high TBWs soon thanks to Chia - which is apparently also going to increase the price of drives as well... king1 - 2021-05-10 15:35:00 |
| 32 | king1 wrote: Can you elaborate on that king1. I can't see the connection. Ta muppet_slayer - 2021-05-10 16:39:00 |
| 33 | or put it in simpler terms for us thicko's... muppet_slayer - 2021-05-10 16:42:00 |
| 34 | muppet_slayer wrote: connection is dodgy basterds selling well used hardware... Probably not really that relevant but I'm having a play around with it, hence the comment. I imagine some might wear them out then sell them off before they die completely... Edited by king1 at 4:59 pm, Mon 10 May king1 - 2021-05-10 16:49:00 |
| 35 | Ahhhh ok thanks. muppet_slayer - 2021-05-10 16:53:00 |
| 36 | king1 wrote: But if there are only a fixed number of coins to mine, and everyone upgrades to SSD, how does that improve your yield? Aren't you just keeping up with the Jones? Are you in a consortium, are you coining it (these are genuine questions, if you're making good money we'll all jump in). gyrogearloose - 2021-05-10 17:05:00 |
| 37 | gyrogearloose wrote: its solo mining at the moment, pools are coming from what I can tell, it's supposed to be a greener alternative to crypto mining . Coins are currently worth over $US1000 ATM, be interesting to see what happens to it down the track though, most of theses new coins collapse after a few days/weeks. a plot is a file approx 100GB in size, filled with calculated table/numbers - the more you have the better. Not sure exactly how it all works, but i'll see how it goes... Edited by king1 at 6:59 pm, Mon 10 May king1 - 2021-05-10 18:51:00 |
