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Landlord asks tenant to store placenta

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Then accuses them with $26K theft.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/renting/124788759/n
ightmare-landlord-drives-tenants-out-but-court-action-has-le
ft-them-unable-to-rent-again

sparkychap - 2021-05-01 09:51:00
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kittycatkin - 2021-05-01 18:46:00
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Bet Lynch was a landlady.

Landlords can be any gender.

sparkychap - 2021-05-01 18:52:00
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From the article:

"The ruling, received five weeks later, awarded Elizabeth and Jayde $1300.

Gore paid a week later, making a final communication with her former tenants via the banking reference. “thievingc..., gotohell, youb....”.

For the couple, the payment is not the end of the story. The burglary accusation was unresolved in the public ruling, with the adjudicator stating those allegations did not relate to the tenancy and were for other jurisdictions.

This means the consequences of the judicial process are far-reaching, Elizabeth said."

Just what did they expect the tenancy tribunal to do? It ruled in their favour and it has no powers to deal with criminal theft charges.

stevexc - 2021-05-01 18:54:00
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stevexc wrote:

From the article:

"The ruling, received five weeks later, awarded Elizabeth and Jayde $1300.

Gore paid a week later, making a final communication with her former tenants via the banking reference. “thievingc..., gotohell, youb....”.

For the couple, the payment is not the end of the story. The burglary accusation was unresolved in the public ruling, with the adjudicator stating those allegations did not relate to the tenancy and were for other jurisdictions.

This means the consequences of the judicial process are far-reaching, Elizabeth said."

Just what did they expect the tenancy tribunal to do? It ruled in their favour and it has no powers to deal with criminal theft charges.

In which case the TT shouldn't have allowed the claims of theft to be presented to the TT by the landlord...?

Edited by sparkychap at 6:57 pm, Sat 1 May

sparkychap - 2021-05-01 18:56:00
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I have no idea why they never applied for a suppression order, however!

sparkychap - 2021-05-01 19:09:00
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I saw the article on stuff.co.nz and was absolutely stunned at the land lady wanting the tenants to store her placenta in their freezer!!!! What next!!!

megan109 - 2021-05-01 19:20:00
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cessna3 - 2021-05-01 19:28:00
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kittycatkin wrote:

The 'landlord' is a woman, therefore a landlady. Lords are men. No woman can be a lord.


The left would say otherwise.

apollo11 - 2021-05-01 19:46:00
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kittycatkin wrote:

The 'landlord' is a woman, therefore a landlady. Lords are men. No woman can be a lord.

Does the RTA mention landlady?

pico42 - 2021-05-02 08:47:00
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megan109 wrote:

I saw the article on stuff.co.nz and was absolutely stunned at the land lady wanting the tenants to store her placenta in their freezer!!!! What next!!!

erm where else were they expected to store it?!

funkydunky - 2021-05-02 09:15:00
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as the placenta belonged to the landlady, it is up to her to store it, not the tenants!

girlgeorgina - 2021-05-02 09:28:00
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girlgeorgina wrote:

as the placenta belonged to the landlady, it is up to her to store it, not the tenants!

I agree. Not the tenants responsibiliy

megan109 - 2021-05-02 09:40:00
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girlgeorgina wrote:

as the placenta belonged to the landlady, it is up to her to store it, not the tenants!

Tenants were asked. They agreed.

artemis - 2021-05-02 10:43:00
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sparkychap wrote:

In which case the TT shouldn't have allowed the claims of theft to be presented to the TT by the landlord...?

Right - one hopes that the 3 1/2 hours of the hearing didn't waste more than 1 minute on excluding such 'testimony'.
Not really germane but what the hell can you do with a frozen placenta?

amasser - 2021-05-02 10:45:00
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Reading the actual Tribunal order, the situation didn't sound quite as bizarre as the tenants tried to paint it in the media. https://forms.justice.govt.nz/search/TT/abstract.html?id=170
308183&applicationNumber=4266110

It was rather odd that they'd be upset about the defamatory accusations the owner made, but then go and amplify them by repeating them to the media.

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kittycatkin - 2021-05-02 18:49:00
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kittycatkin - 2021-05-02 18:53:00
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kittycatkin wrote:

No, they can't, any more that a landlady can.

Lord is a male title, lady is a female one. It's like men and women. Two different things.

and landlord can apply to either.

sparkychap - 2021-05-02 18:59:00
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amasser wrote:

Right - one hopes that the 3 1/2 hours of the hearing didn't waste more than 1 minute on excluding such 'testimony'.
Not really germane but what the hell can you do with a frozen placenta?

Throw it in the slow cooker with some onions and carrots...

lovelurking - 2021-05-02 19:05:00
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sparkychap wrote:

Bet Lynch was a landlady.

Landlords can be any gender.

Word.

trogedon - 2021-05-03 10:29:00
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This is about that mental illness landlord or landlady. Tenancy services would refer to them all as "Landlords" as a plural or collective group. That Placenta was apparently a bag of frozen peas.

Edited by mr-word at 4:53 pm, Tue 4 May

mr-word - 2021-05-04 16:52:00
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mr-word wrote:

That Placenta was apparently a bag of frozen peas.

According to whom?

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 17:02:00
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sparkychap wrote:

According to whom?

I read it in the stuff article. It was according to the tenants mum Jan Fryer.

"In contrast, there were gaps in Gore’s evidence, Elizabeth said. No police reports or insurance claims to back up her burglary claims.

The placenta was referred to in the ruling as an “item”. “There’s a big difference between a bag of peas and someone’s placenta,” Jan said."

Edited by mr-word at 5:09 pm, Tue 4 May

mr-word - 2021-05-04 17:04:00
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Exactly they never said it was a bag of peas.

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 17:08:00
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I read the tenancy tribunal ruling referring to the placenta as an "item" the adjudicator was very soft on the crackpot landlord/lady who referred to herself as a "property developer" on linkedin . Any reasonable landlord should rent the young women another house. The girl in the story is an interior designer, I am not sure of the profession of the girlfriend. I accept it probably was human biological tissue which is just gross.

Edited by mr-word at 1:08 pm, Wed 5 May

mr-word - 2021-05-05 13:07:00
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kittycatkin wrote:

The 'landlord' is a woman, therefore a landlady. Lords are men. No woman can be a lord.

Landlord is defined in legislation (Residential Tenancies Act); landlady is not.

blands70 - 2021-05-05 15:38:00
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Placenta is medical waste and should have been disposed off not stuck in a freezer. Why was the landlady wanting to keep the placenta? Sounds very odd to me

megan109 - 2021-05-05 23:23:00
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Some new mothers eat the placenta as it's full of nutrients. I believe Maori custom is to bury the placenta on ancestral land.

clicketyclick1 - 2021-05-05 23:37:00
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Or in your tenants freezer.

sparkychap - 2021-05-06 06:49:00
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megan109 wrote:

Placenta is medical waste and should have been disposed off not stuck in a freezer. Why was the landlady wanting to keep the placenta? Sounds very odd to me

That’s a narrow view that ignores a significant cultural importance of the placenta.

pico42 - 2021-05-06 08:19:00
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pico42 wrote:

That’s a narrow view that ignores a significant cultural importance of the placenta.

so important that you store it in other people's fridges where it could be mistaken for cat food...

evoalg - 2021-05-06 10:49:00
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mr-word wrote:

This is about that mental illness landlord or landlady. Tenancy services would refer to them all as "Landlords" as a plural or collective group. That Placenta was apparently a bag of frozen peas.

so, "landlords" store "placentas" in other people's fridges? All plural now-the plot thickens

evoalg - 2021-05-06 10:51:00
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sparkychap wrote:

Or in your tenants freezer.

if the freezer is on the ancestral land, it counts

evoalg - 2021-05-06 10:53:00
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That placenta also makes a delightful cameo appearance in this piece:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/business/residential-p
roperty/125012870/welcome-to-the-mould-awards-wellingtons-ga
la-night-for-property-investors

luteba - 2021-05-06 15:59:00
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kittycatkin wrote:

The 'landlord' is a woman, therefore a landlady. Lords are men. No woman can be a lord.

any woman can call herself Lord if they wish.

spead - 2021-05-26 21:37:00
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spead wrote:

any woman can call herself Lord if they wish.

On famous one has and even added an 'e'.

trogedon - 2021-05-27 15:28:00
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