https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/hawkes-bay-rent-increases-are-
now-the-highest-in-nz-heres-the-impact-thats-having/PD2O5XEY
JNYY3FTECCNVPF7H44/
Well, they have 5 kids.
And a TT dispute about bond.
Why are LLs not eager to welcome them in?

masturbidder - 2021-04-30 21:24:00

Pay walled

princess52 - 2021-04-30 22:50:00

In the article a local agent refers to supply v demand. That on Trade Me there are currently 37 houses in Hastings and 40 in Napier, and in a normal market this time of year there would be well over 100 houses available in each city.

So the rental supply is shrinking there. Are tenants staying put? Or maybe rentals are being removed from the sector for one reason or another.

Now what was the advice to the government from various officials about the impact of policies?

artemis - 2021-05-01 06:22:00

And in the Herald today (also paywalled) -

'I hate the house inspections': What it's like to be renting for life

Interestingly many of the renters interviewed previously owned homes but now rent. Landlords selling was a common reason for having to move.

artemis - 2021-05-01 06:57:00

In two years, 6 houses have been sold and no owner wanted then to stay?

amasser - 2021-05-01 08:32:00

amasser wrote:

In two years, 6 houses have been sold and no owner wanted then to stay?

Not, they get in the way when the FHBs have their house warming....

sparkychap - 2021-05-01 08:42:00

The continued bashing of house owners and surprise! Look what happens. No rentals. Higher and higher rents. Hope the tenants enjoy sitting on Cindy's waiting list.

pcle - 2021-05-01 08:46:00

artemis wrote:

And in the Herald today (also paywalled) -

'I hate the house inspections': What it's like to be renting for life

Interestingly many of the renters interviewed previously owned homes but now rent. Landlords selling was a common reason for having to move.

When we were planning on building we flatted for a couple of years. Yes you do tend to feel like a second rate person, even though we could probably have bought the house we were renting twice over with what we had saved.
Renting isn't good for self esteem, family stability or finances.

apollo11 - 2021-05-01 09:27:00

apollo11 wrote:

Renting isn't good for self esteem, family stability or finances.

bet your landlord would disagree....

sparkychap - 2021-05-01 09:31:00

masturbidder wrote:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/hawkes-bay
-rent-increases-are-now-the-highest-in-nz-heres-the-impact-t
hats-having/PD2O5XEYJNYY3FTECCNVPF7H44/
Well, they have 5 kids.
And a TT dispute about bond.
Why are LLs not eager to welcome them in?

to be fair a quick search reveals the bond dispute was from a crooked landlady... but you are correct it will always be difficult to find a rental for a larger family.

jamesnmatt - 2021-05-01 09:36:00

jamesnmatt wrote:

to be fair a quick search reveals the bond dispute was from a crooked landlady... but you are correct it will always be difficult to find a rental for a larger family.

As several posters have said in the past, it's bad to stand up for your rights as a tenant. Who wants a tenant that will stand up for their rights? Luckily anonymity is can be applied for.

sparkychap - 2021-05-01 09:43:00

Its definitely difficult with a larger family, we rented 2002-2004 and had out tenancy end twice, so 4 shifts in total in two years. at least of last shift was to our own home. but to be endlessly shifting with a big family in tow, that has to be depressing. and we got refused on lots of places due to our family size, so we ended up renting the most expensive places and took in a boarder.
I hope people are learning that your best chance at stability is to delay kids.

heather902 - 2021-05-01 09:55:00

princess52 wrote:

Pay walled

Chrome has a bypass extension

lythande1 - 2021-05-01 19:28:00

Marama Haira is working woman who takes pride in her home and five kids. Her husband is a business owner who also works.

The family have great references but, again, find themselves struggling to find a rental

New figures show Hawke's Bay has experienced the highest year-on-year rental price increase in New Zealand, as demand vastly outstrips an ever-barren supply of rental homes in the region.

Some of their struggle stems from the fact they had to take the landlord of the first private home in Hawke's Bay to the tenancy tribunal.

According to the tenancy tribunal order, Tara Hope attempted to charge them an unlawful $400 security fee before giving them the keys to the Flaxmere house. This was despite the fact that Haira had already paid a $1600 bond and $400 rent in advance.

The tribunal found in Haira's favour and Hope was ordered to pay Haira back the $2000, plus an additional $2000 compensation.

Haira said despite winning the case, her name now popped up in searches of the tenancy tribunal and she often had to explain it.

lythande1 - 2021-05-01 19:30:00

lythande1 wrote:

Chrome has a bypass extension

Could you explain this a bit more? How do you get past the paywall?

rmdstar - 2021-05-01 19:53:00

lythande1 wrote:

Chrome has a bypass extension

And Firefox, so I'm told.

masturbidder - 2021-05-01 22:23:00

The article also says the family moved to Christchurch after 10 years in from Australia, then to Hawke's Bay where they have spent time in emergency accommodation and transitional housing.

They may well be ideal tenants but landlords are very risk averse nowadays due to government policies, and to shortages mainly caused by government policies.

Join the dots.

artemis - 2021-05-02 06:36:00

artemis wrote:

Join the dots.

Mould?

funkydunky - 2021-05-02 10:05:00

rmdstar wrote:

Could you explain this a bit more? How do you get past the paywall?

Download and install this:
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/ma
ster/README.md
Voila!

mcnic - 2021-05-02 19:03:00

artemis wrote:

'I hate the house inspections': What it's like to be renting for life

Seems most Landlord insurance policies I've look at now require inspections every 3 months (Initio/NZI who I am with require it every 4 months if one is an NZPIF member).

Apart from AA Insurance who still offer the longer half yearly inspection requirement, wondering if there are other insurance policies people know of that also offer the half yearly (or longer) inspection requirement?

cognition - 2021-05-04 13:15:00

pcle wrote:

The continued bashing of house owners and surprise! Look what happens. No rentals. Higher and higher rents. Hope the tenants enjoy sitting on Cindy's waiting list.

That's the saddest thing, Labour are hurting the very people they say they are protecting.

jeffqv - 2021-05-04 13:22:00

artemis wrote:

In the article a local agent refers to supply v demand. That on Trade Me there are currently 37 houses in Hastings and 40 in Napier, and in a normal market this time of year there would be well over 100 houses available in each city.

So the rental supply is shrinking there. Are tenants staying put? Or maybe rentals are being removed from the sector for one reason or another.

We can't say rental supply is shrinking there, only that rental availability is shrinking there. They're two different things.
It would be interesting to know, though, when properties are sold, how many of them are being bought by people moving into the region from elsewhere, and whether that is more or less than in previous years.

luteba - 2021-05-04 13:41:00

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gunna-1 - 2021-05-04 14:27:00

gunna-1 wrote:

they want us to become like Indonesia and no longer bif some chip paper out the window

Absolutely, this country was built on every good Kiwis right to pollute our beautiful country. How are they try and stop that.

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 15:48:00

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gunna-1 - 2021-05-04 15:55:00

sparkychap wrote:

Absolutely, this country was built on every good Kiwis right to pollute our beautiful country. How are they try and stop that.

I'd like to catch the bag of turds who fly tipped a sack of broken car plastics in our driveway the other day. Throw your rubbish out of your car boot and it's suddenly someone else's problem.

apollo11 - 2021-05-04 16:03:00

cognition wrote:

Seems most Landlord insurance policies I've look at now require inspections every 3 months (Initio/NZI who I am with require it every 4 months if one is an NZPIF member).

The insurance policies that require regular inspections are the ones with specific cover for things that tenants do/may do. Your other option is just to have normal house insurance. Tell the insurance company that the house is tenanted of course but you won't be covered for damage by the occupants and there are no rules about inspections. Gives you the freedom to let tenants get on with their lives, and an incentive to make sure you have good tenants at the start. And also means you pay for anything they do do while they're there.

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raewyn2 - 2021-05-04 16:05:00

apollo11 wrote:

I'd like to catch the bag of turds who fly tipped a sack of broken car plastics in our driveway the other day. Throw your rubbish out of your car boot and it's suddenly someone else's problem.

Probably gunna-1.

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 16:05:00

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gunna-1 - 2021-05-04 16:07:00

gunna-1 wrote:

Look here, we dont get our backs torn up for spitting chewing gum on the footpath and thats a bonus, we dont have TORTURE here yet, and that is a bonus, we use to do voluntary trash cleaning excersises, we are not a totalitarian county now off you go to one that is, and stop ruining my paradise.

Sure, just as soon as I've strewn the remnants of this Big Mac Meal over the State Highway,

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 16:07:00

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gunna-1 - 2021-05-04 16:07:00

gunna-1 wrote:

where we dont get tortured by authority, yet,

I want this fly tipper tortured ASAP. Who do I talk to?

apollo11 - 2021-05-04 16:09:00

gunna-1 wrote:

Go back to your stuped cult!!!!!!!!!!.

stupe 1 (stoÍžop, styoÍžop)
n.
A hot, wet, often medicated cloth used as a compress.
[Middle English, from Latin stuppa, stūpa, tow, from Greek stuppē, stupeion, coarse fiber of hemp or flax.]
Sounds like a very strange cult.

apollo11 - 2021-05-04 16:11:00

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gunna-1 - 2021-05-04 16:11:00

gunna-1 wrote:

Then you will be tortured for dropping a gurkin, you really dont want to embrace this, as anyone from one of these countries that has endured it in the past and they will tell you about it.

I don't know what a gurkin is, and I'm sure I wouldn't drop one if I did. And having lived in the Middle-East, I have some idea about less freedom in societies.

apollo11 - 2021-05-04 16:14:00

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gunna-1 - 2021-05-04 16:18:00

gunna-1 wrote:

Go back to your stuped cult!!!!!!!!!!.

what's a stuped cult? Is it one that gets a kick out of superfluous explanation marks?

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 16:23:00

apollo11 wrote:

I don't know what a gurkin is, and I'm sure I wouldn't drop one if I did. And having lived in the Middle-East, I have some idea about less freedom in societies.

You've lived in the Middle East but have no idea what a gurkin is? Not surprising, they refer to them as "Pickles" where I used to live in the ME. My lunch order was always "Chicken burger no pickle".

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 16:25:00

sparkychap wrote:

You've lived in the Middle East but have no idea what a gurkin is? Not surprising, they refer to them as "Pickles" where I used to live in the ME. My lunch order was always "Chicken burger no pickle".

A pickle is what you get into when you try to smuggle two bottles of scotch whiskey past customs in a no alcohol country lol.

apollo11 - 2021-05-04 16:35:00

apollo11 wrote:

A pickle is what you get into when you try to smuggle two bottles of scotch whiskey past customs in a no alcohol country lol.

Ha ha think we've both got that t-shirt.

It's when the head of custom walks off to talk to two well armed soldiers with your passport to discuss whether to let you in or not.....

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 16:40:00

sparkychap wrote:

You've lived in the Middle East but have no idea what a gurkin is? Not surprising, they refer to them as "Pickles" where I used to live in the ME. My lunch order was always "Chicken burger no pickle".

Pickle/gerkin
Gurkin is a kin to a burka!

smallwoods - 2021-05-04 18:03:00

sparkychap wrote:

what's a stuped cult? Is it one that gets a kick out of superfluous explanation marks?

no need to be nasty. I am pretty sure Gunna said in another thread that he has some issues that stem back to an injury he had no control over which is why he sometimes doesn’t spell everything correctly.

Also some people are dyslexic. It’s not their fault.

lakeview3 - 2021-05-04 18:46:00

sparkychap wrote:

Ha ha think we've both got that t-shirt.

It's when the head of custom walks off to talk to two well armed soldiers with your passport to discuss whether to let you in or not.....

Where were you in the M/E?
I was a young bloke bringing gifts (the whiskey wasn't mine), so I sweated a bit. Fresh off the plane from a holiday in Australia. The were sticking all sorts of things up my didgereedoo (lol, another gift) to make sure I wasn't smuggling drugs too.

apollo11 - 2021-05-04 18:48:00

lakeview3 wrote:

no need to be nasty. I am pretty sure Gunna said in another thread that he has some issues that stem back to an injury he had no control over which is why he sometimes doesn’t spell everything correctly.

Also some people are dyslexic. It’s not their fault.

That's got nothing to do with flinging silly insults at others. And using too many explanation marks.

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 19:44:00

apollo11 wrote:

Where were you in the M/E?
I was a young bloke bringing gifts (the whiskey wasn't mine), so I sweated a bit. Fresh off the plane from a holiday in Australia. The were sticking all sorts of things up my didgereedoo (lol, another gift) to make sure I wasn't smuggling drugs too.

Q8, Saudi and a little unpermitted diversion into Iraq. We would trip down to Bahrain and return with a few bottle to celebrate the liberation of K8.

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 19:46:00

sparkychap wrote:

That's got nothing to do with flinging silly insults at others. And using too many explanation marks.

whatever ????

lakeview3 - 2021-05-04 19:47:00

lakeview3 wrote:

whatever ????

He has a point. Don't poke the big hairy thing in the corner.

apollo11 - 2021-05-04 19:59:00

apollo11 wrote:

He has a point. Don't poke the big hairy thing in the corner.

That reminds me - when I was younger I also worked in Athens, Georgia, and met REM. A friend took a few photos and when I showed them to my wife she said "hang on, which one is you?". "That's me in the corner", I said.

sparkychap - 2021-05-04 20:15:00

sparkychap wrote:

That reminds me - when I was younger I also worked in Athens, Georgia, and met REM. A friend took a few photos and when I showed them to my wife she said "hang on, which one is you?". "That's me in the corner", I said.

Lol, the bloke drinking Orange Crush.

apollo11 - 2021-05-04 20:17:00

...bloody hell,ghurkas,burka,Indonesia,t-
orture and orange crush..spelling mistakes..this is why we keep coming back here innit..better than telly.....perhaps????...and this thrilling discussion awl on real estate...the possibilities are endless here????

Edited by theguyz1 at 8:28 pm, Tue 4 May

theguyz1 - 2021-05-04 20:27:00