| 1 | Landlord has given notice that rent is increasing. Considering the current rental market it isnt a huge increase so we are "happy" with the amount. However, he has not given the correct notice.
My concern is if I point this out, will he then be able to retract the current increase notice and issue one for the correct notice period but for a higher amount? (Insecure renter here wondering if he might do a bit more research and decide the place is worth more) zephrine - 2021-04-27 19:15:00 |
| 2 | Certainly you can require the correct notice. Landlord could do what you are concerned about. Up to you to weigh the costs and the risks. Bearing in mind that rents are likely to continue rising for quite a while until demand and supply are better balanced. artemis - 2021-04-28 06:31:00 |
| 3 | Well it's over to you, what would you do in his shoes, you can save a couple of hundred dollars, go for it, is the worry worth it. Think of your health because stress is one of the biggest killers. msigg - 2021-04-28 07:24:00 |
| 4 | Would you be nit picking if he had given too much notice?
How much under is the notice he has given?
Is it only a weeks notice or a month?
What effect is it going to have on you?
Perhaps you should point out to him that what he is charging is under the market rent. bernie184 - 2021-04-28 07:56:00 |
| 5 | I week vs 60 days. With my previous landlord I was quite happy for him to drop round without proper notice if it didnt inconvenience me so I dont think I'm a nit picker. I think we're quite easy going as tenants.
I have emailed to nicely let him know that it needs to be atleast 60 days and given him a link to the Tenancy website. If he chooses to up the rent further I guess that's his decision.
Also for an older house in this area the rent probably isnt far off. bernie184 wrote:
Would you be nit picking if he had given too much notice?
How much under is the notice he has given?
Is it only a weeks notice or a month?
What effect is it going to have on you?
Perhaps you should point out to him that what he is charging is under the market rent. zephrine - 2021-04-28 08:51:00 |
| 6 | It would be interesting to know why he thinks a 1week notice is adequate. thumbs647 - 2021-04-28 10:21:00 |
| 7 | zephrine wrote:
I week vs 60 days. With my previous landlord I was quite happy for him to drop round without proper notice if it didnt inconvenience me so I dont think I'm a nit picker. I think we're quite easy going as tenants.
I have emailed to nicely let him know that it needs to be atleast 60 days and given him a link to the Tenancy website. If he chooses to up the rent further I guess that's his decision.
Also for an older house in this area the rent probably isnt far off. Sounds like you've done the reasonable thing. 1 week vs 60 days is pretty substantially different and (1 week) a bit unreasonable. Hard for people to change their budget in a week. |
| 8 | zephrine wrote:
I week vs 60 days. With my previous landlord I was quite happy for him to drop round without proper notice if it didnt inconvenience me so I dont think I'm a nit picker. I think we're quite easy going as tenants.
I have emailed to nicely let him know that it needs to be atleast 60 days and given him a link to the Tenancy website. If he chooses to up the rent further I guess that's his decision.
Also for an older house in this area the rent probably isnt far off. A week is far to short.
In this case he does need it pointed out. bernie184 - 2021-04-28 11:08:00 |
| 9 | OP: how has your LL responded? Has he yet? thumbs647 - 2021-04-30 05:53:00 |
| 10 | Is there a formal letter advising tenants of a rent increase. We have never increased rent while our rentals are tenanted and have bar one always had awesome tenants?
Our rents are way below usual and we get great satisfaction knowing they are happy and secure. We are not in this for the money the homes just happened to be on the land we bought. We are excellent LLs and get the same in return. One couple are always looking for things to do around their home and are so immaculate. We are currently offering to put in new carpet in both homes as it is getting worn in places.
With all the new laws coming in and the possibility of rent freezes we are going to increase by just $10.00 per week per house. Is there a formal letter I can get and do we have to alter the bond? Is 60 days the correct amount of notice to give? We get our income from the farm and live comfortably on that. There are no pockets in shrouds, and at the end we all only have approx 6ft of earth that we own. Thanks for any help. mercury14 - 2021-04-30 08:36:00 |
| 11 | mercury14 wrote:
Is there a formal letter advising tenants of a rent increase. We have never increased rent while our rentals are tenanted and have bar one always had awesome tenants?
Our rents are way below usual and we get great satisfaction knowing they are happy and secure. We are not in this for the money the homes just happened to be on the land we bought. We are excellent LLs and get the same in return. One couple are always looking for things to do around their home and are so immaculate. We are currently offering to put in new carpet in both homes as it is getting worn in places.
With all the new laws coming in and the possibility of rent freezes we are going to increase by just $10.00 per week per house. Is there a formal letter I can get and do we have to alter the bond? Is 60 days the correct amount of notice to give? We get our income from the farm and live comfortably on that. There are no pockets in shrouds, and at the end we all only have approx 6ft of earth that we own. Thanks for any help. there is a form for notice of rent increase, I only know this because i had to print one out for my sister.
https://www.tenancy.govt.nz/rent-bond-and-bills/rent/increas
ing-rent/
link to the form at the bottom |
| 12 | zephrine wrote:
Landlord has given notice that rent is increasing. Considering the current rental market it isnt a huge increase so we are "happy" with the amount. However, he has not given the correct notice.
My concern is if I point this out, will he then be able to retract the current increase notice and issue one for the correct notice period but for a higher amount? (Insecure renter here wondering if he might do a bit more research and decide the place is worth more) Well, he might try to retract but he can only increase the rent once a year and that might be considered twice! committed - 2021-04-30 13:55:00 |
| 13 | committed wrote:
Well, he might try to retract but he can only increase the rent once a year and that might be considered twice! lol god loves a trier |
| 14 | loose.unit8 wrote:
lol god loves a trier Considering he didn’t give the OP the correct notice, I would be trying if he decides to up the rent further. committed - 2021-04-30 18:10:00 |
| 15 | thumbs647 wrote:
OP: how has your LL responded? Has he yet? Sorry for not getting back. He replied to say sorry and that he needed to do some studying of the tenancy laws. Said he would send through a copy later that evening. (Presumably with the correct notice given) Still waiting several says later.
Of course, he may be reading this messageboard as we speak. *wave* zephrine - 2021-05-01 08:24:00 |
| 16 | zephrine wrote:
He replied to say sorry and that he needed to do some studying of the tenancy laws. Wow, and I thought that these landlords were professionals running businesses.... Edited by sparkychap at 8:45 am, Sat 1 May sparkychap - 2021-05-01 08:43:00 |
| 17 | sparkychap wrote:
Wow, and I thought that these landlords were professionals running businesses.... In what way is it a business now? pcle - 2021-05-01 08:47:00 |
| 18 | pcle wrote:
In what way is it a business now? So it's not a business? sparkychap - 2021-05-01 08:51:00 |
| 19 | sparkychap wrote:
So it's not a business? It was. But not any more. Charity perhaps? pcle - 2021-05-01 09:42:00 |
| 20 | pcle wrote:
It was. But not any more. Charity perhaps? Glad you agree its not a business, no need for tax benefits of a business then. sparkychap - 2021-05-01 09:44:00 |
| 21 | sparkychap wrote:
Glad you agree its not a business, no need for tax benefits of a business then. What tax benefits? Tenants are paying all that new tax now. pcle - 2021-05-01 11:35:00 |
| 22 | zephrine wrote:
Sorry for not getting back. He replied to say sorry and that he needed to do some studying of the tenancy laws. Said he would send through a copy later that evening. (Presumably with the correct notice given) Still waiting several says later.
Of course, he may be reading this messageboard as we speak. *wave* No worries.
Question: how long has your LL been a LL?
He reads the MB??? Yikes, could be awkward..... thumbs647 - 2021-05-01 12:26:00 |
| 23 | pcle wrote:
It was. But not any more. Charity perhaps?
Charities don't have to pay tax. Landlords now have to pay more tax than ever!
Just because a greenhorn doesn't know how to run a business doesn't make the actual business any less so. raewyn2 - 2021-05-01 16:39:00 |
| 24 | raewyn2 wrote:
Charities don't have to pay tax. Landlords now have to pay more tax than ever!
Just because a greenhorn doesn't know how to run a business doesn't make the actual business any less so. Not the landlord paying the new taxes. Lucky tenants. Bit like a real business passing costs onto customers. pcle - 2021-05-01 16:59:00 |
| 25 | I think from memory he bought the house just before christmas last year. It's his first rental.
No idea if he reads the messageboard. It's a possibility although I imagine if he did he mightve picked up a bit more info on being a landlord... Still waiting for the email serving us with the correct notice. He emailed about something else but not that. The mother in me feels like I need to be helpful and remind him, but the tenant in me thinks it's not my job lol thumbs647 wrote:
No worries.
Question: how long has your LL been a LL?
He reads the MB??? Yikes, could be awkward..... zephrine - 2021-06-12 17:14:00 |
| 26 | So this started in April and he still hasn't given proper notice and your rent has yet to rise? |
| 27 | carstauranga001 wrote:
So this started in April and he still hasn't given proper notice and your rent has yet to rise? Yes. zephrine - 2021-06-13 22:51:00 |
| 28 | The member deleted this message. |
| 29 | Another follow up. Received an email from the landlord yesterday saying he'd noticed our rent payments haven't been increased. I politely replied saying we still hadn't had proper notice. (I'm basing this on the fact that the initial email on the 27th April said from the 6th of May which was only 10 days notice. My response was to tell him it needed to be 60 days which would "put it near the end of June." He said he would send the correct notice to me that night. He didn't.)
So my question is, can he say "it's now been longer than 60 days so you've had notice" or does the 60 days start from whenever I receive the correct notice? zephrine - 2021-08-03 07:17:00 |
| 30 | If the landlord has issued an incorrect notice, they can only vary that original notice with your consent or by order of the tenancy tribunal. In this case they have done neither, although you should go back to your emails and check that your email correcting him that it needed to be 60 days wasn’t in fact showing consent (or could be interpreted by a reasonable person as consent regardless of your intention).. Ultimately if he’s now applying the correct 60 days, which is what you would have been subject to, it might be a case or accepting and paying unless you want to start a fight with the landlord. sparkychap - 2021-08-03 07:30:00 |
| 31 | Just reread #15 - if he said he would resend correct notice then he’s rescinded the original one although I would still go back and reread all your correspondence criticality. Whilst I’m a reasonable person a tenancy adjudicator might not be…. sparkychap - 2021-08-03 07:37:00 |
