ok im not a newbie to computers but i struggle
i at 67 have just got a very basic first ever cell phone Alcatel 1 e ..i do not want to have it connected to the internet ok ...i want to use it to make the odd phone call and send a few text messages , maybee a picture or 2
you may laugh if you wish
but my question is :
when you have the phone turned off will it still make a noise to allert you to
if someone has sent you a text or tried to call you ?

it has when on the charger and it did make a noise when someone texted me
is this also the case when it is turned OFF ??
thanks
PS it will spend most of its time turned off and i will not be taking it every time i go out

Edited by ignoramus1 at 11:27 am, Wed 21 Apr

ignoramus1 - 2021-04-21 11:22:00

OFF means OFF literally so no noise.

spyware - 2021-04-21 11:36:00

Note: It's not common to turn a cell phone off at all. Really defeats the purpose of having one in my opinion. Do not disturb feature during sleep is acceptable to most.

Edited by spyware at 11:42 am, Wed 21 Apr

spyware - 2021-04-21 11:41:00

Like anything electrically operated - if it's off it just doesn't work. As for using it on the internet, you don't have to at all. Get someone who knows a bit to show you the difference between DATA & WIFI so that you don't inadvertantly use up your monthly allowance of data. The phone has systems in it that will want to be updated at times. Best to do that off the WIFI.

Edited by nice_lady at 12:33 pm, Wed 21 Apr

nice_lady - 2021-04-21 12:32:00

ok thanks sorry for belated thankyou ...i was ill yesterday ...so if i understand correctly you DO NOT actually turn it OFF you simply put it down and it goes into "hyberantion" or what ever it is called mode and does not use power i this mode?

i thought you had to turn them off to conserve the battery ...told you i am a newbie to cell phones

ignoramus1 - 2021-04-22 07:45:00

ignoramus1 wrote:

ok thanks sorry for belated thankyou ...i was ill yesterday ...so if i understand correctly you DO NOT actually turn it OFF you simply put it down and it goes into "hyberantion" or what ever it is called mode and does not use power i this mode?

i thought you had to turn them off to conserve the battery ...told you i am a newbie to cell phones

A cellphone is an electrical device. Some people turn their cellphone off - I do at night. Others may not. If you do not turn it actually OFF it WILL use some power. Any electrical device uses power when it's on even if it's kind of 'hibernated'.

There are no 'rules' in this situation - you do whatever you want. Turn it off, leave it on, whatever. You will find that if you leave it on it may disturb you with noisy notifications of emails received, or other events. This can be bothersome in the middle of the night. However you can set it up so that 'do not disturb' function is enabled. And this can enable you to let phone calls and or messages through from certain nominated people but block others and also it can turn off or reduce the volume of notifications of other events. To be honest - it's probably much easier for you untill you get the hang of the thing to simply turn it off at night. This will also conserve battery use. You'll find that phone will generaly only last a day or perhaps two days on battery depending on your usage.

nice_lady - 2021-04-22 07:54:00

ignoramus1 wrote:

when you have the phone turned off will it still make a noise to allert you

No.

lythande1 - 2021-04-22 08:19:00

nice_lady wrote:

A cellphone is an electrical device. Some people turn their cellphone off - I do at night. Others may not. If you do not turn it actually OFF it WILL use some power. Any electrical device uses power when it's on even if it's kind of 'hibernated'.

There are no 'rules' in this situation - you do whatever you want. Turn it off, leave it on, whatever. You will find that if you leave it on it may disturb you with noisy notifications of emails received, or other events. This can be bothersome in the middle of the night. However you can set it up so that 'do not disturb' function is enabled. And this can enable you to let phone calls and or messages through from certain nominated people but block others and also it can turn off or reduce the volume of notifications of other events. To be honest - it's probably much easier for you untill you get the hang of the thing to simply turn it off at night. This will also conserve battery use. You'll find that phone will generaly only last a day or perhaps two days on battery depending on your usage.

i think i understand what you are saying ty
if it just goes into "sleep hybernation " or what ever the term is mode it will still use some power but probably only about the % that say a tv uses when on standby ?

i think i will just try leaving it to "go to sleeP" during the day but at night put it on the charger in another room ... i will rarely use it but just trying to understand HOW to use it ...i havent got a clue but your answer has hepled

ignoramus1 - 2021-04-22 08:27:00

During the day if you don't use it and the screen is off it'll still use some power but not as much as when the screen is on. The screen is mostly what uses the power on the thing. It will use more power (percentage wise) than your TV when that's on standby as the TV uses about 0.6% of it's 'normal' power when on standby. The cellphone isn't really quite so far 'asleep' because it's constantly pinging the cell towers and perhaps receiving emails/messages and running a few processes in the background like checking for updates to apps etc. But it will use a lot less if it's just sitting there. If it's sitting on the table, or in your pocket and the screen is off it's not really in 'sleep or hibernation' it's just in 'low use mode'.........

Anyway check the battery usage at times. You can see the battery icon at the top of the screen normally. It'll show you a graphic representation of a battery, (a picture sort of), and perhaps also a percentage in numbers. The phone will alert you when it's gotten low. It'll take an hour or maybe two at most to charge it up from low.

nice_lady - 2021-04-22 09:28:00

Another option to make it quieter at night is to turn on 'flight mode' which disables the transmission of signals (bluetooth, wifi and cellular) but retains the ability to use the alarm clock.

gyrogearloose - 2021-04-22 09:32:00

True 'flight mode' will stop ALL communication with the Cellphone towers and that will include any and all incoming phone calls/text messages. It will cut off the wifi as well and any and ALL communication by the phone with the internet. It's going to save power and keep it very quiet.

Ps: I'd suggest you learn about the difference between DATA and WIFI and how to disable or enable them on the phone. Data usage can cost you money because it can chew through your monthly allowance very quickly. Wifi won't do that.

Edited by nice_lady at 9:47 am, Thu 22 Apr

nice_lady - 2021-04-22 09:45:00

thanks all i now get what i have to do

ignoramus1 - 2021-04-22 11:48:00

most android ph should only sound the alarm if set when off
iphone will turn on by themselves by default

kavebunny - 2021-04-30 03:54:00

kavebunny wrote:

most android ph should only sound the alarm if set when off
iphone will turn on by themselves by default

What?

nice_lady - 2021-04-30 05:14:00

spyware wrote:

Note: It's not common to turn a cell phone off at all. Really defeats the purpose of having one in my opinion. Do not disturb feature during sleep is acceptable to most.

I always turn my Cellphone off at night when I go to bed.
It charges much better too when you turn it off.
You can set The Alarm which will go off even if phone is switched off too.

Edited by ferrit47 at 4:09 pm, Fri 30 Apr

ferrit47 - 2021-04-30 16:06:00

ferrit47 wrote:

I always turn my Cellphone off at night when I go to bed.
It charges much better too when you turn it off.
You can set The Alarm which will go off even if phone is switched off too.

I don't believe you are turning your cellphone off if the alarm can go off. What EXACTLY do you do to turn the phone off ?

nice_lady - 2021-04-30 16:11:00

Just tested this on my Oppo Find X2 Lite and if I set an alarm and turn the phone off the alarm does not activate. No suprise there.

Edited by nice_lady at 4:34 pm, Fri 30 Apr

nice_lady - 2021-04-30 16:34:00

Old Skool Nokia will turn itself on if yoh have the alarm set.

tygertung - 2021-04-30 16:38:00

nice_lady wrote:

Just tested this on my Oppo Find X2 Lite and if I set an alarm and turn the phone off the alarm does not activate. No suprise there.

One Plus 8T here. Stock clock app has an option in the settings "Ring alarm when device is off". Just tried it, and the phone turned itself back on with 1 minute to go until the alarm went off. Cool feature, but will never use it.

cube_guy - 2021-04-30 22:05:00

cube_guy wrote:

One Plus 8T here. Stock clock app has an option in the settings "Ring alarm when device is off". Just tried it, and the phone turned itself back on with 1 minute to go until the alarm went off. Cool feature, but will never use it.

it can't really be truly powered off then, must be in a sleep mode

king1 - 2021-04-30 22:59:00

When I tested, I held the power button down, and turned it off via the onscreen off prompt like I would to turn it off any other time. I don't know of any other way to turn it off?

Edited by cube_guy at 11:08 pm, Fri 30 Apr

cube_guy - 2021-04-30 23:05:00

it kinda suggests that power off on that phone is not like flicking a physical switch, but moreso like a windows pc power states
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/ke
rnel/system-power-states

king1 - 2021-04-30 23:32:00

Yeah well perhaps the battery acts like a bios battery sort of in that it keeps minimal services going? As I said earlier it wouldn't keep connectivity to the networks though, that could be an extreme security risk.

Edited by nice_lady at 6:18 am, Sat 1 May

nice_lady - 2021-05-01 06:17:00

nice_lady wrote:

Yeah well perhaps the battery acts like a bios battery sort of in that it keeps minimal services going? As I said earlier it wouldn't keep connectivity to the networks though, that could be an extreme security risk.

Alarm settings appear to be stored in rom.
I have had dead flat cell ph's here, (dead for a year or 2) that when recharged will suddenly turn it's self back on & scare/ annoy you in the early morning with a previously set alarm

mrfxit - 2021-05-04 19:12:00

mrfxit wrote:

Alarm settings appear to be stored in rom...

It will be RAM, because you can change the alarm settings. There's a couple of different types but they're based on flash like a memory stick, it retains the data without power.

gyrogearloose - 2021-05-04 21:13:00

gyrogearloose wrote:

It will be RAM, because you can change the alarm settings. There's a couple of different types but they're based on flash like a memory stick, it retains the data without power.

Fair enough,

mrfxit - 2021-05-05 08:30:00