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I have an old PC with lots of pictures on it

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I dont want to take the computer with me when moving. It has no space for a USB stick, so how can I transfer those pictures spanning several years and some old historical family pictures. Its one of those where you used those flat black discs with a silver round top, but those I cant view anywhere either.

omaria - 2021-04-01 22:14:00
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Take it to a technician and get the photo's transferred to a USB, they won't care if it's black and silver.

gyrogearloose - 2021-04-01 22:57:00
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it must be very old if there is no USB on it...
if the photos are on the floppy discs you can use one of these
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/computers/vintage/li
sting/3033124510?bof=5oT6zscb

if on the internal harddrive then they will need to be copied off, either to a floppy disc as above or with one of these
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/ADPSTT2442399/StarTech-USB3
SSATAIDE-USB-30-to-SATA--IDE-Hard-Dri

each of those adapters plug into a USB port on a newer PC

king1 - 2021-04-01 22:58:00
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Take the hard drive out. But a IDe or sata (depending what kind of hdd it is) to USB adapter and use that.
You should have one anyway, where do you back up to? Oh don't tell me you don't do backups...hard drives die you know.
No, it's not wave the magic (technical) wand and retrieve them, often you can’t get them back.

lythande1 - 2021-04-02 08:41:00
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omaria wrote:

I dont want to take the computer with me when moving. It has no space for a USB stick, so how can I transfer those pictures spanning several years and some old historical family pictures. Its one of those where you used those flat black discs with a silver round top, but those I cant view anywhere either.


Mmmmm now I am confused.
No usb ports but the hdd is full of photo's
No usb ports would indicate a computer made well before any significant internet access was possible, & possibly before any CD drives were around.

Please explain how the photo's were put on your computer in the first place & then we may have a better idea on how to proceed.

Not all computer techs are as capable as all the others & some that are good, are expensive for working on older computers.

It's probably going to be a fairly simple job for the right tech

Edited by mrfxit at 8:53 am, Fri 2 Apr

mrfxit - 2021-04-02 08:53:00
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"Please explain how the photo's were put on your computer in the first place & then we may have a better idea on how to proceed"

Very good point perhaps the OP is looking at a pc with usb ports only on the back and hasn't realized they're they're?

nice_lady - 2021-04-02 09:49:00
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Entirely possible they were scanned, via a scsi, serial or parallel port. Windows NT /95 P1 K5 generation. Or downloaded via modem from a bbs..

ronaldo8 - 2021-04-02 11:39:00
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ronaldo8 wrote:

Entirely possible they were scanned, via a scsi, serial or parallel port. Windows NT /95 P1 K5 generation. Or downloaded via modem from a bbs..


Exactly my point, by knowing how they were put on there in the first place, would give a knowledgeable tech a good idea on the simplest way to get them off again.
For all we know at this point, it might be an XT with an MFM/RLL hdd (or later model with SCSI hdd)

mrfxit - 2021-04-02 11:50:00
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Perhaps they came from one of those ancient digital cameras that recorded directly on to a floppy disk.

The much more likely scenario is as mentioned earlier the PC does have USB ports but they're hidden around the back.

vtecintegra - 2021-04-02 12:12:00
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mrfxit wrote:


Exactly my point, by knowing how they were put on there in the first place, would give a knowledgeable tech a good idea on the simplest way to get them off again.
For all we know at this point, it might be an XT with an MFM/RLL hdd (or later model with SCSI hdd)

I Shugart at the thought of it.

ronaldo8 - 2021-04-02 12:29:00
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USB came out in 1996! So might have some usb at the back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB

tygertung - 2021-04-02 15:24:00
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ok.......the screen is new but .......I had a look at the back of the big contraption underneath the desk (I think its called the motherboard)
with all sorts of plugs and cables. It looks as if it could fit a sticky. My son is coming up in a few weeks I get him to have a look. I only want the pictures, the rest can be deleted. Also need everything deleted before i get rid of the whole caboodle.

Edited by omaria at 5:17 pm, Fri 2 Apr

omaria - 2021-04-02 17:16:00
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if you are planning to dump the computer, take the hard drive out, it's quite easy. That way you keep all your data and pics and no one can access them. The hard drive can be put into another computer so you can access the data.

stylus1 - 2021-04-02 20:35:00
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The member deleted this message.

stylus1 - 2021-04-02 20:35:00
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stylus1 wrote:

if you are planning to dump the computer, take the hard drive out, it's quite easy. That way you keep all your data and pics and no one can access them. The hard drive can be put into another computer so you can access the data.

Sorry, but if the OP thinks the tower case under the desk is called a 'mother board' there is no way she will know what a HDD will look like.
(No offence meant OP)

Edited by perfectimages at 10:30 pm, Fri 2 Apr

perfectimages - 2021-04-02 22:27:00
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No offence taken, this lingo does my head in LOL, it was hard enough to learn english without this new fandangled gigglemegook.

omaria - 2021-04-02 23:26:00
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OP it sounds like you looked at the keyboard and assumed that because you couldn’t see a USB port there it didn’t have one, the USB port will be in the case under the desk, could be in the front, the back or both. I don’t know how old your computer would need to be not to have USB ports but I know my old one built in 2003 had 4 of them. If it does have them it will be very easy to get your photos off, either on to USB stick or portable USB hard drive. It is important to keep backups of your important photos etc, portable USB hard drives are well priced these days. The hard drive in your computer can break without much warning. A portable hard drive would be a good investment so you can always backup your photos and anything else important regularly. Windows can be set up to back up automatically. Best wishes for your move.

mcdaff - 2021-04-03 00:13:00
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Thank you McDaff and all other kind posters :)

omaria - 2021-04-03 07:34:00
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The big contraption under the desk has a motherboard inside it. But it's generally referred to as " The Computer'.

And it WILL have USB ports????????

nice_lady - 2021-04-03 08:10:00
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I call it "the box"

tygertung - 2021-04-03 08:14:00
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I call it the tower.

lilyfield - 2021-04-03 08:35:00
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lilyfield wrote:

I call it the tower.


The Older models were less of a tower as they generally were 'lie down' models

nice_lady - 2021-04-03 08:51:00
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mrfxit wrote:


Exactly my point, by knowing how they were put on there in the first place, would give a knowledgeable tech a good idea on the simplest way to get them off again.
)


I was a tech. I couldn't care less how they were put on. I'd plug in a portable drive, if there really isn't any usb, and it would have to be really, really old, then I'd just take the HDD out and do it that way.
Simple.

lythande1 - 2021-04-03 08:51:00
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and what is the HDD? Sounds like a disorder LOL

omaria - 2021-04-03 08:58:00
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lythande1 wrote:


I was a tech. I couldn't care less how they were put on. I'd plug in a portable drive, if there really isn't any usb, and it would have to be really, really old, then I'd just take the HDD out and do it that way.
Simple.

Yeah true but 'our Omaria' isn't particularly tech oriented as shown by her many posts here. She does try though and she comes here for advice which generally is of use to her. What she needs in this situation is some reassurance. Which she now has. The computer WILL have a usb port unless it's VERY old, (say pre 2000). She'll get her photos off it easy enough. Failing that any tech with standard skill set will manage it easily.

nice_lady - 2021-04-03 08:58:00
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If it's win 98, good luck getting a flash drive to work straight off the bat. There will most likely be hoops to jump through.

xtr19633001 - 2021-04-03 09:23:00
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Omaria, too much guesswork here. Can you help us with a description of your PC? I'm referring to the System Unit, ie the 'box on the floor' (with all the wires). If it is a recognised brand, the manufacturer name and model will almost certainly be clearly on the front. But if it's a so-called 'clone' then it may be quite non-descript. A photo front and rear would definitely help, or failing that, how old is it and where did you buy it might help narrow it down

cookee_nz - 2021-04-03 09:54:00
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xtr19633001 wrote:

If it's win 98, good luck getting a flash drive to work straight off the bat. There will most likely be hoops to jump through.

exactly, dos drivers..fun.

ronaldo8 - 2021-04-03 12:38:00
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stylus1 wrote:

if you are planning to dump the computer, take the hard drive out, it's quite easy. That way you keep all your data and pics and no one can access them. The hard drive can be put into another computer so you can access the data.

From an old machine to a modern one, no not "easy" by a long stretch, not for a novice.

Pre sata, so an ide, eide or pata pci card needing to be fitted first. If lucky their new computer may have a built in pata, if its actually old as well.

ronaldo8 - 2021-04-03 12:47:00
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ronaldo8 wrote:

I Shugart at the thought of it.


Oh you conner be kidding.
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.On that note>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_hard_disk_manu
facturers

mrfxit - 2021-04-03 13:27:00
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I have a computer here which has IDE and SATA on the motherboard. Really good as you can plug in heaps of drives.

tygertung - 2021-04-04 12:59:00
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tygertung wrote:

I have a computer here which has IDE and SATA on the motherboard. Really good as you can plug in heaps of drives.


I think IDE was still on some of early i3/5 series computers.
Would have to check that but pretty much every skt478/775 had at least one IDE & one SATA except maybe the micro boards

mrfxit - 2021-04-04 13:20:00
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tygertung wrote:

I have a computer here which has IDE and SATA on the motherboard. Really good as you can plug in heaps of drives.

Likely eide, the last evolutionary step. IDE was the first and had half the pins.

ronaldo8 - 2021-04-04 17:55:00
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Posting a photograph on here, of the rear of the cabinet, makes the most sense, but I suspect even that might be too large a hurdle.

socram - 2021-04-04 18:09:00
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omaria wrote:

and what is the HDD? Sounds like a disorder LOL

I don't think anyone has answered this, to put it in simple terms, HDD stands for Hard Disk Drive. It is where everything is stored, a typical desktop set up usually has 3.5" ones and a laptop has a 2.5" ones.

You can fit 2.5" hdds into a desktop but can not fit a 3.5" into a laptop because of the size restriction, You can also have more than one in both set ups. The operating system and all the data and files are stored on them.

SSD (solid state drive) replaces the HDD and uses flash memory chips instead of a metal spinning magnetic platter with a head that reads the data like HDD's have.

muppet_slayer - 2021-04-04 19:52:00
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A HDD is a small flat box inside your computer that has ALL the info in the computer on out. In a way it's similar to an old vinyl record which has songs on it.
In fact the HDD box does have a disk inside it with your info on it.

nice_lady - 2021-04-04 20:25:00
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cookee_nz wrote:

Omaria, too much guesswork here. Can you help us with a description of your PC?


Honestly it doesn't matter.
It has a USB or it doesn't. If it doesn't you take the HDD out.
Hard Disk Drive.
Get a USB to ide or sata adapter and away you go....
If you open the PC up, undo screws, take sides off, you'll see if it's IDE or sata.
IDE has the wide grey cable, sata the thin red one.
From the HDD......

lythande1 - 2021-04-05 08:09:00
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# 37 You are making the assumption that the OP even knows what screws to undo to get the case apart let alone what to do with the drive once it is out.
Just because it is simple for you (being a tech) does not make it simple for everyone. (eg. I think it is quite a simple job to set a scene up and take a very good photo but I know that it is not the case for everyone without at least some training).

perfectimages - 2021-04-05 08:45:00
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lythande1 wrote:


Honestly it doesn't matter.
It has a USB or it doesn't. If it doesn't you take the HDD out.
Hard Disk Drive.
Get a USB to ide or sata adapter and away you go....
If you open the PC up, undo screws, take sides off, you'll see if it's IDE or sata.
IDE has the wide grey cable, sata the thin red one.
From the HDD......


Seen Sata cables in all sorts of colors
grey/red/black/translucent/pin-
k/stripes/blue/green

Same with IDE cables.......

Yes I know your point. (just being a little pedantic)

IDE will be a wide flat ribbon cable between the motherboard & hard drive/ DVD drive
SATA will be a narrow flat cable between the same type devices

Edited by mrfxit at 8:55 am, Mon 5 Apr

mrfxit - 2021-04-05 08:50:00
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But yes, as long as they are not a Vintage computer enthusiast. then the hdd is fairly easy to remove & set up on another suitable computer to recover the photo's etc
Might be a case of simply plugging the hdd in to the spare computer or needing an adapter or even a suitable external USB case to connect the hdd to the spare computer.

After that, it should just be a case of using Windows Explorer to copy everything wanted & paste to another hdd or external hdd or DVD?

All this is presuming the hdd is still ok.

mrfxit - 2021-04-05 08:54:00
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Yeah #37 while no doubt trying to be of help would be WAY too 'tech' for Omaria.

nice_lady - 2021-04-05 08:56:00
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May I suggest to Omaria, that to do what she wants to do is not really a job for someone with limited knowledge and she would be better to let someone who has the knowledge do the job for her.
As we have seen even those with the knowledge have various views on how it should be done and end up confusing the situation even more.

perfectimages - 2021-04-05 09:06:00
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omaria wrote:

No offence taken, this lingo does my head in LOL, it was hard enough to learn english without this new fandangled gigglemegook.


Cables & ports
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1518677560.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1518677491.jpg

mrfxit - 2021-04-05 09:22:00
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perfectimages wrote:

May I suggest to Omaria, that to do what she wants to do is not really a job for someone with limited knowledge and she would be better to let someone who has the knowledge do the job for her.
As we have seen even those with the knowledge have various views on how it should be done and end up confusing the situation even more.


If they get someone to help them do this recovery, hopefully they will remember this thread & learn a few things about computers, maybe even pass on some of that info to others.

mrfxit - 2021-04-05 09:23:00
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