Tauranga council are taking over refuse / recycling and food scrap collections later in the year for over $200.00 plus per year . This will be charged to the property owner on their rates account.
If the house is tenanted the tenant currently pays a bin company or buys bags at the supermarket etc.
Now this cost is going to fall on the ratepayer who presumably will pass it on to the tenant is some bush lawyer going to say that the new cost to the tenant is a rent increase and the only one allowed that year.
Opinions please because your council will probably follow suite.

hammer23 - 2021-02-10 09:53:00

in New Plymouth we have been charged a collectoin fee for years so maybe Tauranga is starting to catch up with other districts and sometimes our town is forgotten when it comes to collecting the rubbish

mouse265 - 2021-02-10 09:58:00

If it's on the rates bill - then the owner gets to pay.
Better add another $10pw to the rent then.

pcle - 2021-02-10 10:02:00

If there is going to be an increase in rates due to the council supplying bins the landlord will need to include that in the allowable rent increase. The extra cost in rent would be offset by the tenant no longer having to pay a bin company or buying rubbish sacks at the supermarket.

jonnythecat - 2021-02-10 10:07:00

As far as I know we can opt out of the Council rubbish bin collection system, they just take the bins back. Invercargill.

marte - 2021-02-10 11:18:00

hammer23 wrote:

Tauranga council are taking over refuse / recycling and food scrap collections later in the year for over $200.00 plus per year . This will be charged to the property owner on their rates account.
If the house is tenanted the tenant currently pays a bin company or buys bags at the supermarket etc.
Now this cost is going to fall on the ratepayer who presumably will pass it on to the tenant is some bush lawyer going to say that the new cost to the tenant is a rent increase and the only one allowed that year.
Opinions please because your council will probably follow suite.

$4.00 approx a week ? If the landlord cannot cover this until the next rent rise , Get out of the buisness ,

martin11 - 2021-02-10 11:40:00

Tauranga can't opt out.
Tga used to have rubbish collection in the past, made it user pays without rates discount and now are reintroducing and increasing charges to ratepayers.

carstauranga001 - 2021-02-10 11:41:00

hammer23 wrote:

......
Opinions please because your council will probably follow suite.

Been paying for rubbish collections for ourselves and our tenants for years.

martin11 wrote:

$4.00 approx a week ? If the landlord cannot cover this until the next rent rise , Get out of the buisness ,

These are my thoughts too, although I'd probably use slightly softer words. ;)

desi1969 - 2021-02-10 12:04:00

martin11 wrote:

$4.00 approx a week ? If the landlord cannot cover this until the next rent rise , Get out of the buisness ,

Tenant advocates always crying about rent rises being higher than 2% inflation.
But not a word is said about the skyrocketing costs, compliance and more taxes heaped upon property owners.
Lucky tenants get to pay for it all.

pcle - 2021-02-10 12:20:00

It's about time Tauranga caught up with the rest of NZ. And I agree if you have to raise the rent $10 a week to cover it you are scamming your tenant.

van.wilson - 2021-02-10 13:13:00

van.wilson wrote:

It's about time Tauranga caught up with the rest of NZ. And I agree if you have to raise the rent $10 a week to cover it you are scamming your tenant.

I dont think it should be forced upon us though there will be some living on their own and have very little rubbish but still have to pay it in rates when they dont use it often. yes the tenants will get this added to rent for sure,Idont think its scamming them at all. user pays.
I will be 100$ out of pocket having the bins,

pearlypearl - 2021-02-10 18:03:00

pearlypearl wrote:

I dont think it should be forced upon us though there will be some living on their own and have very little rubbish but still have to pay it in rates when they dont use it often. yes the tenants will get this added to rent for sure,Idont think its scamming them at all. user pays.
I will be 100$ out of pocket having the bins,

I will be better off, and I think most households (with more than 1-2 people in them) will be. As for landlords being concerned about the cost...ummm, how much has your rental property risen in value in the past few months? Mine's doubled in less than 3 years, mortgage rates are at an all-time low, and rents have risen significantly. I reckon tenants could be spared this one small cost.

sarahp24 - 2021-02-10 21:44:00

What does a cost increase have to do with market rents? The market doesn't care what your costs are. This hit a friend of mine hard a few years ago. She wanted to keep her property and rent it out when her and her husband built a new house. She wanted $500 a week for it. The market in the area for the house was closer to $400.

How many drop their rents once the mortgage is gone on the property?

sw20 - 2021-02-11 01:14:00

I live in Tga and currently have a large bin and a small recycling bin through Waste Management at $450 per year. Under the new scheme, Im going to have the same through Council for $230 p/a added to my rates.
Maybe if every home (including rentals) has a pair of bins supplied, "Fly Tipping" may be a thing of the past?
Whats not to love?

stevo2 - 2021-02-11 07:12:00

Hastings and Napier have just started these bins for refuse and recycling and the bins are small and what use to take me two weeks to fill up a 120l now takes me one week.

jackiechan3 - 2021-02-14 17:39:00

sw20 wrote:

How many drop their rents once the mortgage is gone on the property?

Good point they never dropped the price of electricity for Tiwai point smelter once Tiwai had paid for the Manapouri hydropower station.

marte - 2021-02-16 05:49:00

stevo2 wrote:

I live in Tga and currently have a large bin and a small recycling bin through Waste Management at $450 per year. Under the new scheme, Im going to have the same through Council for $230 p/a added to my rates.
Maybe if every home (including rentals) has a pair of bins supplied, "Fly Tipping" may be a thing of the past?
Whats not to love?

Everything.

morticia - 2021-02-16 15:25:00

jackiechan3 wrote:

Hastings and Napier have just started these bins for refuse and recycling and the bins are small and what use to take me two weeks to fill up a 120l now takes me one week.

120 litres per week! Where are you getting all this rubbish from? Unless you are putting grass clippings in you must be buying the rubbish in each week
I suggest smarter shopping and less landfill

toyboy3 - 2021-02-16 16:38:00

Having bins for tenants is a great thing. There is no excuse for rubbish to hang around. Less mess, Less rats that can damage property, more hygienic. ect ect. If you only bring the rent up $5 per week, this more than covers the cost. Win Win really.

krystu - 2021-02-21 14:34:00

hammer23 wrote:

Tauranga council are taking over refuse / recycling and food scrap collections later in the year for over $200.00 plus per year . This will be charged to the property owner on their rates account.
If the house is tenanted the tenant currently pays a bin company or buys bags at the supermarket etc.
Now this cost is going to fall on the ratepayer who presumably will pass it on to the tenant is some bush lawyer going to say that the new cost to the tenant is a rent increase and the only one allowed that year.
Opinions please because your council will probably follow suite.

Like all other ventures the Tauranga City Council have been involved in, the rubbish bin collection will `end up a TOTAL DISASTER

viking60 - 2021-02-21 14:54:00

carstauranga001 wrote:

Taurang-
a can't opt out.
Tga used to have rubbish collection in the past, made it user pays without rates discount and now are reintroducing and increasing charges to ratepayers.

You need to remember the TCC are heavily in Debt, like most other ventures they have been involved in, this will also be a total mess, if the TCC was a private enterprise they would have gone well before now.

viking60 - 2021-02-21 15:00:00

viking60 wrote:

You need to remember the TCC are heavily in Debt, like most other ventures they have been involved in, this will also be a total mess, if the TCC was a private enterprise they would have gone well before now.

so lets privatise TCC - letting it go under - then start again with no debt.

jethrocat - 2021-02-21 15:46:00

Hamilton rolled put the 4 bin system last year. Some people are having issues for sure but most just seem to be getting on with it. Love not having to remember to buy the black bags. Rates cost is about the same as general was before and I don't have pay for bags. Also greatly reduced roadside messes.

hers.nz - 2021-02-23 20:11:00

In a lot of places in Auckland, there is not enough roadside to put out all the bins because there are so many households living in just one apartment building. Multiply that by loads of apartments and the bins are lying on the footpaths and roads - sometimes for days.

mazalinas - 2021-02-23 22:30:00

The new rubbish collection by the Tauranga City Council will end up like most of their previous plans, a complete disaster. One only has to look at their past decisions, it has cost the ratepayers vast sums of money we need a council with experienced councillors, with past experience in running an organisation.

viking60 - 2021-04-02 23:01:00

toyboy3 wrote:

120 litres per week! Where are you getting all this rubbish from? Unless you are putting grass clippings in you must be buying the rubbish in each week
I suggest smarter shopping and less landfill

Reverse hoarding?
I don't put either bin out every fortnight.

O/P - landlords pass on their costs by increasing rent. Is that unusual?

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kittycatkin - 2021-04-03 14:43:00

pearlypearl wrote:

I dont think it should be forced upon us though there will be some living on their own and have very little rubbish but still have to pay it in rates when they dont use it often. yes the tenants will get this added to rent for sure,Idont think its scamming them at all. user pays.
I will be 100$ out of pocket having the bins,

My elderly mother (88yr) has to walk with a frame and even the short walk along the flat driveway is too much, there's no way she can drag 3 bins out to the road side, she's rung them and told them this, so she has to fill in a form and someone is going to come around and work out what to do, and she doesn't have much rubbish anyway, and I go in and collect her recycling when I do my own for her, but they are closing Maleme Street transfer station to contend with the system apparently, it seems like it'll be another have baked idea by TCC.

mrcat1 - 2021-04-04 00:26:00

From the landlord perspective it just gets incorporated in the rents at the next increase. In future there will be the issue of tenants who remove the bins when they leave.

From the householder perspective there's a lot wrong and not much that's right with what TCC and WBDC are doing. The biggest issue is that the contract for all of the rubbish collection has gone to an offshore company, so all the local ratepayer companies currently providing the service are going to suffer badly. At least in Western Bay we will be allowed to continue to contract to our existing supplier which we will do because they come on site to collect, whether we are there or not. If they are still available of course. And we will be paying double because we will still have to pay our rates portion, on top of rates that are already much higher than Tauranga's. So our choice to pay extra for the service we need, but in Tauranga I don't think this option is even available.

raewyn2 - 2021-04-04 08:32:00

raewyn2 wrote:

From the landlord perspective it just gets incorporated in the rents at the next increase. In future there will be the issue of tenants who remove the bins when they leave.

From the householder perspective there's a lot wrong and not much that's right with what TCC and WBDC are doing. The biggest issue is that the contract for all of the rubbish collection has gone to an offshore company, so all the local ratepayer companies currently providing the service are going to suffer badly. At least in Western Bay we will be allowed to continue to contract to our existing supplier which we will do because they come on site to collect, whether we are there or not. If they are still available of course. And we will be paying double because we will still have to pay our rates portion, on top of rates that are already much higher than Tauranga's. So our choice to pay extra for the service we need, but in Tauranga I don't think this option is even available.

By understanding with the wheelie bins they stay with the house as they have a bar code that links them to the house they were issued to. How they police it I am not sure. My brother has this system and that is what he told me. I didn't ask about the policing.

Edited by joanie04 at 7:09 pm, Sun 4 Apr

joanie04 - 2021-04-04 19:08:00

joanie04 wrote:

By understanding with the wheelie bins they stay with the house as they have a bar code that links them to the house they were issued to. How they police it I am not sure. My brother has this system and that is what he told me. I didn't ask about the policing.

Apparently they have bar code scanners on the arms of the truck, so they can read it when they empty the bin.
In Napier you can apply for a rates discount if you only put your bin out every second week or less, and they check by reading the barcodes.

fast4motion - 2021-04-04 20:54:00