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How much do banks charge to break a mortgage ?

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If i was to pay a mortgage off i mean ?
Thanks.

azzab54 - 2021-02-07 17:34:00
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You have to ask them. It all depends on the interest rate you are on, how much is outstanding and how long to go on your current term.

sparkychap - 2021-02-07 17:39:00
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OK.That changes everyday,so to be accurate they could only tell you at the actual time of being notified that the mortgage is to be paid off,right?

Has anyone done this and had to pay the break fee,and how much was the charge ?

azzab54 - 2021-02-07 17:43:00
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You have to ask them. It all depends on the interest rate you are on, how much is outstanding and how long to go on your current term.

sparkychap - 2021-02-07 17:48:00
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Plus if you received any cash incentive, you may have to pay a prorata amount back (aka "clawback")

sparkychap - 2021-02-07 17:57:00
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Yes we did this 20 years ago, we paid approx 1k but stopped paying the mortgage for another 12 years so was worth while. ASB was ours, Each to their own.

msigg - 2021-02-07 17:59:00
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azzab54 wrote:

OK.That changes everyday,so to be accurate they could only tell you at the actual time of being notified that the mortgage is to be paid off,right?

Has anyone done this and had to pay the break fee,and how much was the charge ?

Correct. They will give you a quote to break it on the day. Every single case will be different (how much owing, interest rate and how long left on fixed term) so totally irrelevant what others have paid. We were quoted approximately $800 to break ours - we are building another investment property and are going to consolidate lending.

wachael1 - 2021-02-07 18:13:00
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azzab54 wrote:

OK.That changes everyday,so to be accurate they could only tell you at the actual time of being notified that the mortgage is to be paid off,right?

Has anyone done this and had to pay the break fee,and how much was the charge ?

Paying off the mortgage isn't the same as having no mortgage. You could pay off the loan and retain the mortgage.

johnston - 2021-02-07 18:47:00
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It will be worked out, taking account of the lost interest payments they would have got, can be expensive, if a lot of the term left.
I paid mine off at end of term, so no additional cost.
They tried hard to get me to leave mortgage on there books, but i insisted on "discharging" it fully(via lawyer to do that), as i did not want them to continue having any interest in, or control over my property.
Years ago, i found that unless i was refixing at a rate at least 3% lower, it was not worth doing on a 1 year old 5 year term.

Edited by gpg58 at 8:37 pm, Sun 7 Feb

gpg58 - 2021-02-07 20:25:00
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gpg58 wrote:

It will be worked out, taking account of the lost interest payments they would have got, can be expensive, if a lot of the term left.
I paid mine off at end of term, so no additional cost.
They tried hard to get me to leave mortgage on there books, but i insisted on "discharging" it fully(via lawyer to do that), as i did not want them to continue having any interest in, or control over my property.
Years ago, i found that unless i was refixing at a rate at least 3% lower, it was not worth doing on a 1 year old 5 year term.

If you pay off the loan but don't discharge the mortgage its a lot easier and cheaper to get another loan for other properties.

loud_37 - 2021-02-07 21:55:00
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https://www.interest.co.nz/calculators/mortgage-break-fee-es
timator

Calculator.

lythande1 - 2021-02-08 07:43:00
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sparkychap wrote:

Plus if you received any cash incentive, you may have to pay a prorata amount back (aka "clawback")

...and if the loan was arranged by a broker and you repaying within 27 months you are liable for their commission clawback too

jeffqv - 2021-02-08 09:45:00
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jeffqv wrote:

...and if the loan was arranged by a broker and you repaying within 27 months you are liable for their commission clawback too

Did you see the article recently where a borrower won their case against the broker because the brokers engagement contract was very vague on this scenario? It said something like "you may have to pay a fee". They argued that they would have expected (say) $ 25 r so, not the thousands demanded.

ETA here it is: https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300196122/mortgage-adviser-
client-upset-at-2500-bill

Edited by sparkychap at 10:11 am, Mon 8 Feb

sparkychap - 2021-02-08 09:59:00
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sparkychap wrote:

Did you see the article recently where a borrower won their case against the broker because the brokers engagement contract was very vague on this scenario? It said something like "you may have to pay a fee". They argued that they would have expected (say) $ 25 r so, not the thousands demanded.

ETA here it is: https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300196122/mortgage-adviser-
client-upset-at-2500-bill

Ouch.

sw20 - 2021-02-08 11:02:00
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You have to ask THEM.

amasser - 2021-02-08 11:04:00
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azzab54 wrote:

OK.That changes everyday,so to be accurate they could only tell you at the actual time of being notified that the mortgage is to be paid off,right?

Has anyone done this and had to pay the break fee,and how much was the charge ?

I broke my mortgage about 15 years ago.. If I recall correctly at the time the break fee was around $300, BUT I saved $19,000 in interest ( was paying 6%, had 20 years to run) Ask your bank. Whatever it is, it won't be anywhere near the amount of interest you'll pay by having a mortgage. And I cleared it fully... was quite upset with the bank at the time, so decided I would NEVER get another mortgage with them!

Edited by hazelnut2 at 5:14 pm, Mon 8 Feb

hazelnut2 - 2021-02-08 17:11:00
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hazelnut2 wrote:

I broke my mortgage about 15 years ago.. If I recall correctly at the time the break fee was around $300, BUT I saved $19,000 in interest ( was paying 6%, had 20 years to run) Ask your bank. Whatever it is, it won't be anywhere near the amount of interest you'll pay by having a mortgage. And I cleared it fully... was quite upset with the bank at the time, so decided I would NEVER get another mortgage with them!

the break fee is only for the portion of interest for the remaining fixed term not the whole 20yrs.

Edited by loud_37 at 7:53 pm, Mon 8 Feb

loud_37 - 2021-02-08 19:52:00
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azzab54 wrote:

If i was to pay a mortgage off i mean ?
Thanks.

Do you want to pay of the mortgage with cash? If so you might want to think about what else you could do with the money. Interest rates ore so low at the moment and there are surly more lucritive ways to use the money.

curlcrown - 2021-02-08 22:19:00
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loud_37 wrote:

the break fee is only for the portion of interest for the remaining fixed term not the whole 20yrs.

The remaining fixed term WAS 20 years (of a 30 year mortgage). Did I explain it incorrectly?

hazelnut2 - 2021-02-09 09:13:00
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curlcrown wrote:

Do you want to pay of the mortgage with cash? If so you might want to think about what else you could do with the money. Interest rates ore so low at the moment and there are surly more lucritive ways to use the money.

Yes, there might well be, but the satisfaction of completely OWNING one's piece of the planet can't be underestimated.

hazelnut2 - 2021-02-09 09:15:00
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hazelnut2 wrote:

The remaining fixed term WAS 20 years (of a 30 year mortgage). Did I explain it incorrectly?

I very much doubt that you had a fixed interest rate for the length of the loan.....

sparkychap - 2021-02-09 09:54:00
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kittycatkin - 2021-02-09 13:25:00
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kittycatkin - 2021-02-09 16:46:00
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hazelnut2 wrote:

The remaining fixed term WAS 20 years (of a 30 year mortgage). Did I explain it incorrectly?

WOW 30 year fixed term, the longest i've seen was 5 years.

loud_37 - 2021-02-09 19:07:00
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In my experience a couple of years ago, Westpac Bank were a bit shy about giving a breaking fee figure just on a general enquiry... "what sort of fee would I be up for if we paid off our mortgage in a couple of months time" ?? They wanted a firm proposal with dates etc... There are all sort of factor that they take into account if they will even change a fee at all.. It is one thing to pay off your mortgage because your granny has died and you have come into a bit of money, as opposed to clearing this mortgage so you can run off to another bank and get a mortgage from them instead !!

onl_148 - 2021-02-11 14:47:00
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kittycatkin - 2021-02-11 14:54:00
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kittycatkin wrote:

I can't see why it's any of their business.

Because the bank is a business and they want to keep your business.

jonnythecat - 2021-02-11 16:29:00
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