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Is it legal to ask in the application form for their facebook profile name? and if yes then do they have to answer it? Also is it legal to ask for a credit check?

heidi9 - 2021-01-22 14:59:00
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Sounds like you have found the Tenancy Portal application process.

It's very invasive yes. I'd be more concerned how the information is stored and who has access to this information.

sw20 - 2021-01-22 15:06:00
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No to face book. Personal information. credit check im not sure but years gone by you could do a credit check . But you must be careful on grounds to turn someone down.
If you have to do this stuff for a tennant then the way i see it, it is a bad start. Each to their own.

msigg - 2021-01-22 15:29:00
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msigg wrote:

No to face book. Personal information. credit check im not sure but years gone by you could do a credit check . But you must be careful on grounds to turn someone down.
If you have to do this stuff for a tennant then the way i see it, it is a bad start. Each to their own.

By "no to facebook", do you means its not legal to ask, or that you shouldn't provide your details in response to the request? Your post is imprecise.

pico42 - 2021-01-22 15:34:00
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andrew697 - 2021-01-22 16:28:00
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What do you have to hide?

sparkychap - 2021-01-22 17:10:00
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No don't provide your facebook details unless you want to.

msigg - 2021-01-22 17:15:00
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I think that this question is good actually not only for myself but for other landlords out there who are currently choosing a suitable tenant.

heidi9 - 2021-01-22 18:48:00
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heidi9 wrote:

I think that this question is good actually not only for myself but for other landlords out there who are currently choosing a suitable tenant.

and what if the person honestly does not have a facebook page or they do and it has pretty much nothing on .....ie just a name eg my daughter has a facebook profile but there is literally nothing on there unless you knew you in real life her facebook would tell you nothing about her my husband doesnt even have a facebook account

cathi - 2021-01-22 18:54:00
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If my kids (in their 20's) FB profiles are the norm they would be of no use whatsoever to prospective landlords - nothing posted on them in probably 5 years.

cinderellagowns - 2021-01-22 18:57:00
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cathi wrote:

and what if the person honestly does not have a facebook page or they do and it has pretty much nothing on .....ie just a name eg my daughter has a facebook profile but there is literally nothing on there unless you knew you in real life her facebook would tell you nothing about her my husband doesnt even have a facebook account

If they don’t have a Facebook page, they might just say that?.
And if it is a low traffic account, they would just decide whether to provide that info or not.
Seems the obvious answer.

pico42 - 2021-01-22 23:10:00
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Call me stupid, but wouldn't your facebook 'name' usually be your own name? If someone is using a different name on FB, then no, they don't have to give it out, and they are probably hiding from at least 1 person if they don't use their real name on FB imo (or they don't want to be 'found', so won't give out their name anyway lol). Majority of young people don't even have FB these days (it's for 'old' people apparently, according to my late teen/early 20 children), so not even sure what info any potential LL would want to gleam from it anyway.

Second question - it's not illegal to ask for credit checks; doesn't mean they can't ask for it. You don't have to provide it, but likely won't be ahead of someone that does with a clear credit check.

rhys12 - 2021-01-23 00:02:00
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Haha rhys12, your kids may be fibbing to you to avoid being your fb friend.

When I was screening job applicants I used to google a person. That brings up a fb profile too, sometimes the fb name may be different but the email address is their real name, so google finds it. Google also shows some court case articles.

melagray - 2021-01-23 09:24:00
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melagray wrote:

Haha rhys12, your kids may be fibbing to you to avoid being your fb friend.

When I was screening job applicants I used to google a person. That brings up a fb profile too, sometimes the fb name may be different but the email address is their real name, so google finds it. Google also shows some court case articles.

Only if you are foolish enough to use your actual email address on social media sites.

sw20 - 2021-01-23 10:09:00
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melagray wrote:

Haha rhys12, your kids may be fibbing to you to avoid being your fb friend.

When I was screening job applicants I used to google a person. That brings up a fb profile too, sometimes the fb name may be different but the email address is their real name, so google finds it. Google also shows some court case articles.

Most of them hardly use fb now except for messenger. They use other social media instrad. Fb is for old people like parents apparently, they are Instagram, Snapchat, tiktok and anywhere except fb!

dinx - 2021-01-23 21:42:00
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msigg wrote:

No to face book. Personal information. credit check im not sure but years gone by you could do a credit check . But you must be careful on grounds to turn someone down.
If you have to do this stuff for a tennant then the way i see it, it is a bad start. Each to their own.

is this like a prenup dooms a marriage?

In all honesty, if you are a landlord then you want to know who the prospective tenants are. After all they are moving into a property worth quite a lot of money.

There’s the old saying “An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure”

princess52 - 2021-01-24 00:04:00
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andrew697 - 2021-01-24 06:37:00
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Don't forget that tenants are choosing for a decent LL too. I'd be slightly freaking out if a prospective LL had "fb clause" in the agreement. This would mean they either don't know the rules, or that they know them and ignore them or that they are just plain creepy. If you have a working tenant, asking for their LinkedIn page would look better and slightly less creepy. But you can usually google their profile yourself if their position is quite prominent. Its amazing what comes up if enough info is put in google. As for credit check-yes, LL is entitled to know how reliable if their prospective tenant. Take a photo of their drivers licence though-this could save you a whole lotta pain if you are a LL. Also, a prospective LL should consider reading Tenancy info and not just rely on any info provided by TMMB, even though it is a well of wisdom.

Edited by evoalg at 1:39 pm, Sun 24 Jan

evoalg - 2021-01-24 13:36:00
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princess52, yes we are a landlord, tenants have been in the property for 6 years, we have seen the property approx 10 times over 6 years, we have not raised the rent , tenant is good and happy, we are happy to not worry about the property. Easy as.

msigg - 2021-01-24 14:33:00
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Yes

keys - 2021-01-25 15:08:00
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msigg wrote:

princess52, yes we are a landlord, tenants have been in the property for 6 years, we have seen the property approx 10 times over 6 years, we have not raised the rent , tenant is good and happy, we are happy to not worry about the property. Easy as.

Presumably then you have someone else doing the property inspections for you?

desi1969 - 2021-01-25 17:06:00
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Hi Desi1969, no we don't we trust in the tenant and they are very good. It is a good 1970 2 story house with sea views in a nice area, the land value alone is probably the total value anyway, but it is a good solid house that, when we sell will be developed easy. Each to their own.

msigg - 2021-01-25 17:19:00
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msigg wrote:

Hi Desi1969, no we don't we trust in the tenant and they are very good. It is a good 1970 2 story house with sea views in a nice area, the land value alone is probably the total value anyway, but it is a good solid house that, when we sell will be developed easy. Each to their own.

And you self insure?

sparkychap - 2021-01-25 17:27:00
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msigg wrote:

Hi Desi1969, no we don't we trust in the tenant and they are very good. It is a good 1970 2 story house with sea views in a nice area, the land value alone is probably the total value anyway, but it is a good solid house that, when we sell will be developed easy. Each to their own.

So no need for insurance or a mortgage either?

Edited by desi1969 at 6:02 pm, Mon 25 Jan

desi1969 - 2021-01-25 18:01:00
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I have a relative whose response would likely be that of course a prospective tenant is not obliged to share any non relevant information that they are asked about.

Just as the landlord have the the right to select tenants based on any non relevant criteria they choose as long as they aren't breaching any protected rights of discrimination. They also arent obliged to say why an applicant is unsuccessful either.

dinx - 2021-01-25 21:07:00
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pico42 wrote:

By "no to facebook", do you means its not legal to ask, or that you shouldn't provide your details in response to the request? Your post is imprecise.


Ask anything except age and race. Answers are optional

headcat - 2021-01-26 21:31:00
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headcat wrote:


Ask anything except age and race. Answers are optional

Age is a requirement. Unless the applicant is over 18 they can't sign as an adult (small exceptions apply)

keys - 2021-01-29 10:17:00
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melagray wrote:

Haha rhys12, your kids may be fibbing to you to avoid being your fb friend.
.

Nope, had them as friends on FB when they were younger (and still do, one never uses it anymore and the other very rarely); they just use other platforms (tiktok/twitter/snap chat etc)

rhys12 - 2021-01-29 11:07:00
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