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Security cameras in rentals

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Hi
Is there a requirement to tell landlords and/or property managers that there are security cameras - installed by the tenant - operating on the property that you are renting?

Not hidden cameras.

Thanks.

Edited by camelot9 at 12:17 am, Fri 22 Jan

camelot9 - 2021-01-22 00:15:00
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No you do not need to tell anyone. Out of courtesy I would let them know.

msigg - 2021-01-22 07:10:00
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just remember you will have to pay for all the reinstatement costs after they are removed.

5425 - 2021-01-22 07:42:00
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42Tenant’s fixtures
(1) The tenant shall not affix any fixture to the premises, or make any renovation, alteration, or addition of or to the premises, except—
(a) in accordance with the tenancy agreement; or
(b) with the prior written consent of the landlord.
(2) The landlord shall not withhold that consent unreasonably.
(3) The tenant may, at any time before the expiry of the tenancy, remove any fixture that the tenant has affixed to the premises during the term of the tenancy, unless the removal would cause irreparable damage to the premises.
(4) Any fixtures affixed by the tenant to the premises but not removed by the tenant on the expiry of the tenancy become the property of the landlord.
(5) Despite subsection (4), the tenant may remove any fixtures on or after the expiry of the tenancy if the tenant—
(a) does so in accordance with an agreement or arrangement reached with the landlord; or
(b) reasonably believes that he or she is entitled to do so because of anything the landlord has said or done.
(6) If, on removing any fixture, the tenant causes any damage to the premises, the tenant must inform the landlord immediately and, at the landlord’s option, either repair the damage or compensate the landlord for any reasonable expenses incurred by the landlord in repairing the damage.

sparkychap - 2021-01-22 07:56:00
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The question there sparky is whether the security cameras in question are fixtures.

pico42 - 2021-01-22 09:37:00
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Seems like a good idea, so long as they don't drill holes in the house.

masturbidder - 2021-01-22 10:04:00
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pico42 wrote:

The question there sparky is whether the security cameras in question are fixtures.

there’s no specific definition in the RTA but I’d argue anything that needs fixing to the property is a fixture. So if you need to screw it into the fabric of the building then its captured here.

sparkychap - 2021-01-22 10:10:00
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cameras also benefit the landlord if they reduce the risk of the house being broken into with associated damage to door or windows.

sparkychap - 2021-01-22 10:12:00
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No a wifi camer can sit on the window sill or any ledge, so is not a fixture. Easy as. Done deal.

msigg - 2021-01-22 10:34:00
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msigg wrote:

No a wifi camer can sit on the window sill or any ledge, so is not a fixture. Easy as. Done deal.

Probably what a burglar would say as he/she takes it.

amasser - 2021-01-22 10:58:00
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So long as he smiles for the camera first.

msigg - 2021-01-22 11:12:00
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msigg wrote:

No a wifi camer can sit on the window sill or any ledge, so is not a fixture. Easy as. Done deal.

I have one which is sited on top of a container in my window by the front door. Have a sign in the window as well. At night there is a ring of small red lights around the outer of it.

coralsnake - 2021-01-22 11:35:00
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I notified my LL [HNZ] I was setting up cameras inside my flat. They came back with it was not allowed to 'view' above the top of the fence between my flat and the next door neighbor's nor in any area that 'belonged' to the tenant in the front flat or their garage area. Not permitted to view down the shared driveway!
Comes under Privacy Act apparently.

coralsnake - 2021-01-22 11:44:00
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Good stuff coralsnake.

msigg - 2021-01-22 12:32:00
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