Boundary fence lines
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| 1 | Hi can someone please tell me who I can use to check boundary fence lines in chch? Thanks kungfu3 - 2021-01-06 07:23:00 |
| 2 | You mean verify the location of the boundary itself? That’s done by a licensed surveyor. Try Quadrant Surveys in Christchurch. pico42 - 2021-01-06 07:50:00 |
| 3 | Or find the survey pegs if they are still in the ground. hers.nz - 2021-01-06 22:14:00 |
| 4 | Survey pegs can be moved. masturbidder - 2021-01-07 15:12:00 |
| 5 | You can get your survey plans and notes for a few dollars from LINZ. Then do a simple survey yourself.. If you can get a metal detector you should be able to find/verify the steel pegs that are below the survey pegs, or where the pegs should be. mechnificent - 2021-01-07 17:16:00 |
| 6 | mechnificent wrote:
Eh? What steel pegs that are below the survey pegs? pico42 - 2021-01-07 19:39:00 |
| 7 | pico42 wrote: The imaginary ones. Just use a metal detector and make a beeping sound where you want the boundary to be.... sparkychap - 2021-01-07 19:42:00 |
| 8 | Pegs always used to have a steel peg under them or real close, and it will be shown on the notes.. Standard practice and a requirement. Pegs are too easy to move or loose. mechnificent - 2021-01-07 20:34:00 |
| 9 | They use a lot of steel pegs. Sometimes they can't follow the line, because there's a fence or something in the way, so they put a peg off to the side, note it's place relative to the line and it's official.. There's a name for those offset steel rods.,. mechnificent - 2021-01-07 20:39:00 |
| 10 | Steel pegs are used when there is a car park such as a school or shopping center. I often used my daughters toy metal detector to find the steel pins, but unfortunately most situations have timber pegs. often you can verify the situation using the council plans if there are still 4 or more survey pegs then the measurement should work out, but remember it can be to your disadvantage to have the results as much as to your advantage. sparps - 2021-01-07 20:40:00 |
| 11 | The new gps surveys might not be stipulating them but on old surveys they are common. I'm not even sure if they stipulate wooden pegs any more, though I'd imagine they would have to have them there temporarily for the developers or builders use.. mechnificent - 2021-01-07 20:43:00 |
| 12 | If you know where the steel rods are you can dig around, they are normally about a hundred or so deep, and about 600 long.. Common as in the country.. mechnificent - 2021-01-07 20:47:00 |
| 13 | It's called an iron spike, marked 'IS' on the surveyor's plan. masturbidder - 2021-01-07 21:34:00 |
| 14 | True.. Or a station I think if it's off to the side. And not at all rare on big blocks, a requirement.. Probably because the pegs don't last or get destroyed too easily. mechnificent - 2021-01-07 21:54:00 |
| 15 | mechnificent wrote:
Never seen that yet ,or seen it being done on a Survey under a peg , sometimes used if an off set mark is requires ,very infrequent . Edited by martin11 at 8:23 am, Fri 8 Jan martin11 - 2021-01-08 08:22:00 |
| 16 | mechnificent wrote:
No, not at all. Edited by pico42 at 11:08 am, Fri 8 Jan pico42 - 2021-01-08 11:01:00 |
| 17 | The requirements used to be that the mark, whether wooden peg or iron, had to have an expected life of some number of years.. about twenty or more... and if the peg was going to be vulnerable, then the iron spike was recommended, What's vulnerable on big blocks isn't probably the same as on residential properties. mechnificent - 2021-01-09 13:03:00 |
| 18 | We often drive a piece of rebar into the ground beside a peg so the mark is not lost if some *** destroys or moves it. masturbidder - 2021-01-09 13:34:00 |
| 19 | Spoke to an experienced surveyor yesterday on another matter and asked about this - he said it was never a requirement under LINZ rules but he had heard it being done as per MBs post above. sparkychap - 2021-01-09 14:00:00 |
| 20 | I checked up and in 1959 steel pegs under wooden pegs were stipulated, in 1972 reinforced concrete in urban or wood with a steel pin for rural was stipulated, and it wasn't till 1998 that they didn't stipulate a steel pin for boundary marks but all the way through witness marks, which are the offset marks, must be steel.. So your experienced surveyor must not be all that experienced.. mechnificent - 2021-01-09 16:36:00 |
| 21 | The "survey regulations". are online. mechnificent - 2021-01-09 16:37:00 |
| 22 | mechnificent wrote: So for wood pegs you only needed the pin if in bush. So not much call for the metal detector in town. sparkychap - 2021-01-09 17:14:00 |
| 23 | Well.. in town you were meant to have a reinforced concrete peg for a long time. Not much point if that's been moved though.... And in any situation you are meant to put a mark that can be expected to last twenty to fifty years, and any of the previous types of mark could be referenced again if they could realistically be expected to last for the relevant time again.. mechnificent - 2021-01-09 18:44:00 |
| 24 | And, if there had been a fence up on the boundary when surveyors came along, they were meant to put in a steel reference pin close by and record it's position in relation to the actual peg position/fence post. So a metal detector would still probably be handy in a lot of instances. mechnificent - 2021-01-09 18:47:00 |
| 25 | mechnificent wrote:
I've never ever seen a reinforced concrete boundary peg, I've seen wooden pegs, Alloy pegs, plastic pegs with a piece of steel moulded into the top of it, alloy/ steel nail pins drilled into seal/ concrete. mrcat1 - 2021-01-09 19:00:00 |
| 26 | Ok... that settles it then... If you haven't seen one !! mechnificent - 2021-01-09 19:06:00 |
| 27 | mechnificent wrote:
You should of just come to me first, would have sorted it quickly. Edited by mrcat1 at 7:10 pm, Sat 9 Jan mrcat1 - 2021-01-09 19:08:00 |
| 28 | Ha... onya.. With the bully I presume.. That's why we have steel pegs in the country. mechnificent - 2021-01-09 19:15:00 |
| 29 | mechnificent wrote: Sure, Jan. sparkychap - 2021-01-09 19:20:00 |
| 30 | mechnificent wrote:
No. A concrete peg was just an option. And given the relative ease a wooden pegs can be procured, carried, carved and installed, they were very much preferred. pico42 - 2021-01-10 10:10:00 |
| 31 | mrcat1 wrote:
I have seen three concrete boundary pegs ever. All in Western Australia, never in New Zealand. pico42 - 2021-01-10 10:12:00 |
| 32 | mechnificent wrote:
The reference pin (a witness or traverse mark, typically an iron tube or spike) gets placed near the boundary point regardless of whether there is a fence there or not. It is the primary survey mark from which the peg would be placed. pico42 - 2021-01-10 10:20:00 |
| 33 | Yeah a metal detector sure speeds things up. Glad someone agrees. What's really essential is the plans and notes. mechnificent - 2021-01-10 11:38:00 |
| 34 | pico42 wrote:
Ok, quite interesting, next time I'm in Kalannie, WA planting wheat I'll have a look for one. mrcat1 - 2021-01-10 11:46:00 |
| 35 | Asked a friend who was a surveyor for fifteen years, said he's never seen a concrete peg. He was only working lower North Island though. apollo11 - 2021-01-10 12:03:00 |
| 36 | Ha.. I'm going back sixty years of regs Apollo.. Marks are meant to last fifty years though so there should be some of the old ones around.. But fifteen years.. Yeah just a beginer. I've got the plans for my place from 1896 and 1956 and plans and notes from 1963.. And some/most of the posts from 1896 were still being used in 1963.. It's interesting.. Two of the posts are still there.. Edited by mechnificent at 12:19 pm, Sun 10 Jan mechnificent - 2021-01-10 12:18:00 |
| 37 | mechnificent wrote: apollo11 - 2021-01-10 12:30:00 |
| 38 | None, but it was an option for years..Are you saying there's no such thing as concrete pegs because your mate hasn't seen any ? mechnificent - 2021-01-10 12:34:00 |
| 39 | mechnificent wrote: apollo11 - 2021-01-10 12:40:00 |
| 40 | Concrete wouldn't be my first choice for something I'd like to hit into the ground with a hammer. apollo11 - 2021-01-10 12:43:00 |
| 41 | mechnificent wrote: Were you a surveyor, mech? sparkychap - 2021-01-10 12:48:00 |
| 42 | sparkychap wrote: apollo11 - 2021-01-10 13:16:00 |
| 43 | mechnificent wrote:
The oldest survey peg I have found was from 1888. Still very sound, readily recognisable down to the lot numbers carved in it. pico42 - 2021-01-10 13:44:00 |
| 44 | mechnificent wrote:
I’ll say that there would have been very very few ever used because they are quite impracticable to use compared to wooden pegs. pico42 - 2021-01-10 13:46:00 |
| 45 | pico42 wrote:
Far out.. Did you pinch it for a bit of history ? In the earliest day of NZ they used to dig holes in the ground and make piles of earth to show the direction of the lines. I always wonder if there are any of those left.. well filled in by now no doubt. mechnificent - 2021-01-10 14:28:00 |
| 46 | No I was never a surveyor Sparky. Nobody needs to be a surveyor to read the regulations or to look at plans and survey notes. There's lots of stuff that I've never seen, but I'm not so stupid as to deny they exist because of my lack of experience. I've never seen a crocodile. mechnificent - 2021-01-10 14:33:00 |
| 47 | apollo11 wrote:
So what's the relevance of my having or not having seen a concrete peg ? And I'm not a bit strange, I'm very strange.. mechnificent - 2021-01-10 14:36:00 |
| 48 | To argue about something you don't know about is arguing in ignorance and doesn't have any merit at all, unless it's purely a matter of opinion. You're all welcome to your opinions. mechnificent - 2021-01-10 14:42:00 |
| 49 | pico42 wrote:
Yeah I think I'd agree, they were meant to be eighteen inches long, which is probably quite hard to hit in in most places, but, in a wet place they would be an obvious choice. They'd last the distance. mechnificent - 2021-01-10 14:45:00 |
| 50 | mechnificent wrote: apollo11 - 2021-01-10 15:07:00 |
