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Any experience with karaoke discs

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I've got a karaoke player with one optical disc of songs (CD+G format presumably). I cannot access the disc contents on my pc. The best I can do is get a bin file but cannot read the file.
I have tried power ISO, Magic Disc, Magic ISO, Power ISO, WinISO and WinCDemu.
The best I got was the file is corrupted or not supported.
I need to make a back up of this disc as the contents is fairly expensive.

Apparently not optical drives can read karaoke discs.

bit - 2021-01-03 14:43:00
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Can't you make an iso of it then write the iso to another disk?

nice_lady - 2021-01-03 15:59:00
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You don't have to OPEN the file to make an iso, the computer just had to be able to read the binary files off the disk.

Edited by nice_lady at 4:02 pm, Sun 3 Jan

nice_lady - 2021-01-03 16:02:00
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https://www.google.co.nz/search?client=ms-opera-mobile&c
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nice_lady - 2021-01-03 16:07:00
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I may be able to do that. But I would like to be able to to access the contents so I can examine the file structure of the disk and make future disks with our favourites.

bit - 2021-01-03 16:30:00
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Umm... I dunno. Google how to convert/create karaoke disk ?

nice_lady - 2021-01-03 16:33:00
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Yeah, I'm going around in circles.

bit - 2021-01-03 16:47:00
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apparently this rips from cdg so at least that would give you the contents
https://www.audiograbber.org/

king1 - 2021-01-03 17:14:00
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Thanks but it doesn't see the tracks on the disc. It only sees one 782.74Mb track.

bit - 2021-01-03 18:12:00
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I wonder if there isn't an issue with the disk then, or it's not actually CDG...

from the version history ...
February 11: Audiograbber 1.82 now released.
Finally! New in this version is:

Better tracklist detection.
Ripping of CDG tracks (karaoke tracks).

Edited by king1 at 6:21 pm, Sun 3 Jan

king1 - 2021-01-03 18:20:00
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bit wrote:

...I need to make a back up of this disc as the contents is fairly expensive...

This is the whole point of it - the contents are expensive and the manufacturers want to make it really hard to make copies, because that would destroy their investment and profit.

Imagine if you invested a million dollars licensing original music and then recouped it disk by disk selling your creation, only to have people ripping it and making free copies?

gyrogearloose - 2021-01-03 19:58:00
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Yeah could be.
Re the audio grabber king1 refers to, I don't think it works on discs in .bin format.

bit - 2021-01-03 22:12:00
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bit wrote:

Yeah could be.
Re the audio grabber king1 refers to, I don't think it works on discs in .bin format.

the .bin is a disk image format much like .iso format. It is a file format that is created after the cd has been imaged/cloned to a file on the hdd ie one file of the entire cd
By the looks of it Audio grabber works on the original cd to create individual files of the the individual tracks (ie ripping), or probably a correctly mounted disk image (iso/bin) using daemon tools or WinCDEmu etc

Edited by king1 at 10:45 pm, Sun 3 Jan

king1 - 2021-01-03 22:43:00
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Seems to be that karaoke discs don't follow the normal rules king1. Cannot mount the .bin image.

bit - 2021-01-04 06:11:00
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I don't think you need to, I would have thought you could just chuck the cd in the drive and point audiograbber to the CD drive.

king1 - 2021-01-04 10:27:00
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That's what I was saying I'm regards to iso

nice_lady - 2021-01-04 11:43:00
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king1 wrote:

I don't think you need to, I would have thought you could just chuck the cd in the drive and point audiograbber to the CD drive.


I did.
Oh I tried a sector by sector copy as well nice lady but that also failed.

bit - 2021-01-04 20:30:00
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What was the error ?
Oh and take A CLOSE look at the disk, what condition is it in?

nice_lady - 2021-01-04 20:41:00
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i guess another possibility is the optical drive in your PC doesn't support the CDG format

king1 - 2021-01-04 21:37:00
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https://www.pcdj.com/free-cdg-ripper-for-windows/

exwesty - 2021-01-05 10:48:00
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exwesty wrote:

https://www.pcdj.com/free-cdg-ripper-for-wind
ows/


That is the one king1 suggested.
It can't even see any tracks on the disc. I can't change the CD ROM access method. It stays on ASPI. MSCDEX and analog cannot be selected.
The disc may be getting a little dodgy. At one point it would not load on the karaoke player but has been alright since I washed it.
I've tried reading the disc on two computers.
The best I have managed is to create a bin file using some karaoke software or other (I've used so many applications by now I've lost track) but was unable to mount it.

bit - 2021-01-05 18:09:00
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I have Power SCDG Ripper. When I click refresh I get "Cannot find cvmd0001.dat at specified location."
According the a google of that fault I need Power CD+G burner, which I have downloaded the trial of. It creates a CD+G file but the file doesn't play.

I tried to create an image file, sector by sector with ImgBurn. It created an image but I couldn't mount it.

I'm sure they are CDG files on the disc. When it's in the player a video background will play and you can select song by number. While the song's playing the video continues indepently (which piques my curiosity because my reading on CDG files says they consist of audio plus graphics. The lyrics are the graphics. When this disc is in the lyrics file is superimposed over the video file.)

I guess it's encrypted.

bit - 2021-01-05 18:51:00
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could be - someone interesting info here - talks about encrypted formats towards the end
http://www.cdgfix.com/help/3.x/Technical_information/The_CDG
_graphics_format.htm

king1 - 2021-01-05 19:21:00
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So if you made a sector by sector copy of the disk why would you need to "mount" it? You should be able to directly burn it to another disk. Then at least you'll have a backup of your precious disk right?

If you then try to play it as a test and it works - success. Yes In think you wanted to make your own mix and match disks. That's another situation. Just tell us if you can burn a backup or not. You don't have to 'mount' an iso to burn it.

nice_lady - 2021-01-05 20:38:00
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I can't mount it as when I try it says the disc image file is corrupted. I was able to make a new disc out of the image however. So that's not a total loss. :)

bit - 2021-01-06 22:11:00
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and it plays ?

nice_lady - 2021-01-07 04:39:00
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