From Stuff
“A lot of people use a two-metre rise for modelling, and that's fair enough if you’ve got critical infrastructure, you might want to know what it will look like under two metres. There’s valid reason for modelling different scenarios and running a two-metre one, that would be quite normal, but to run it in the LIM report?”
2 m + King Tide 5 m = 7 m.
Still can't work out what is a safe height, measured from the high tide mark.

aklreels - 2020-12-28 14:46:00

For the last 100 years the sea level has gone up by about 1.7mm per year, so by 2100 the sea will have risen by 136mm, or less than 6 inches.
A one or two metre rise is proposed by liars and ignorant people.
Here is the data from the official sea level authority, LINZ:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1459711986.jpg

Edited by trade4us2 at 3:07 pm, Mon 28 Dec

trade4us2 - 2020-12-28 15:00:00

Hmm. If my memory from the Te Papa exhibit is correct, that's most of Wellington Central, and a sizeable amount of coast.

sweetgurl108 - 2020-12-28 20:48:00

If the sea level rises by one metre, much of downtown Auckland will be flooded.
Don't listen to the ridiculous nonsense from certain "climate scientists" or the IPCC or NIWA.

trade4us2 - 2020-12-28 21:30:00

view the erosion on the West Coast and the associated insurance issues.
All due to sea level rise.

spead - 2020-12-28 21:40:00

spead wrote:

view the erosion on the West Coast and the associated insurance issues.
All due to sea level rise.

Sea level has been rising for thousands of years. How can erosion be attributed to sea level rise when erosion would happen with zero sea level rise?

apollo11 - 2020-12-28 22:01:00

Antarctica used to be covered in a lush tropical forest , and 1/3 of Australia used to be under water..... I doubt it very much that all happened because dinosaurs burned coal to keep warm. Or did cars to work way back then ????. The climate constantly is changing, and no matter what we do will keep on changing..... however scaring the living Jesus out of people, telling them we are all doomed ! is a great way to make some serious money out of it all . Yep, we do influence the climate , and probably speed the whole Prozess up a bit , so let’s adapt to it - besides what’s wrong with having more water in Australia, or taking a tropical summer holiday in Antarctica ? We had it before so what’s new ?

argentum47 - 2020-12-28 22:53:00

spead wrote:

view the erosion on the West Coast and the associated insurance issues. All due to sea level rise.

What is the official cause of that erosion?

artemis - 2020-12-29 07:41:00

argentum47 wrote:

Antarctica used to be covered in a lush tropical forest , and 1/3 of Australia used to be under water..... I doubt it very much that all happened because dinosaurs burned coal to keep warm. Or did cars to work way back then ????. The climate constantly is changing, and no matter what we do will keep on changing..... however scaring the living Jesus out of people, telling them we are all doomed ! is a great way to make some serious money out of it all . Yep, we do influence the climate , and probably speed the whole Prozess up a bit , so let’s adapt to it - besides what’s wrong with having more water in Australia, or taking a tropical summer holiday in Antarctica ? We had it before so what’s new ?

Except the world was headed for an ice age just now. Pumping pollution into the air, sea and land and pretending it isn't a problem isn't a very good idea.

What we need is houses on floats, tied to mooring posts and when there is flooding, the houses will just rise up so it doesn't get wet inside.

tygertung - 2020-12-29 08:41:00

If we took all those laid up cruise ships out of the water the sea level would drop

toyboy3 - 2020-12-29 09:21:00

trade4us2 wrote:

If the sea level rises by one metre, much of downtown Auckland will be flooded.
Don't listen to the ridiculous nonsense from certain "climate scientists" or the IPCC or NIWA.

Where is your evidence?

amasser - 2020-12-29 10:36:00

I'm still waiting for the Ice Age we were promised in the 70s. Perhaps I slept in that day and missed it.

kacy5 - 2020-12-29 12:26:00

amasser wrote:

Where is your evidence?

The evidence of sea level rise is the thousands of tide gauges around the world. When the gauge data is corrected for land rise or fall, the sea has been rising by about 1.7mm per year everywhere.
Go and LOOK at the data.
Here, I have done Auckland for you.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1459711986.jpg

trade4us2 - 2020-12-29 13:51:00

trade4us2 wrote:

The evidence of sea level rise is the thousands of tide gauges around the world. When the gauge data is corrected for land rise or fall, the sea has been rising by about 1.7mm per year everywhere.
Go and LOOK at the data.
Here, I have done Auckland for you.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1459711986.jpg[
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Sea levels have risen 130 meters in the last 20 000 years.

apollo11 - 2020-12-29 15:24:00

apollo11 wrote:

Sea levels have risen 130 meters in the last 20 000 years.

There was an ice age then, and much of the world's population died.
We have been measuring the sea level for over 100 years, and the level has been rising at only 1.7mm per year, with NO change in the rate of rise. Satellite measurements of sea level are very recent, and wrong.

trade4us2 - 2020-12-29 16:12:00

trade4us2 wrote:

There was an ice age then, and much of the world's population died.
We have been measuring the sea level for over 100 years, and the level has been rising at only 1.7mm per year, with NO change in the rate of rise. Satellite measurements of sea level are very recent, and wrong.

Yes. I'm not arguing against you. The attempt to attribute sea level rises to human activity discards the fact that it's not a recent phenomenon.

apollo11 - 2020-12-29 16:42:00

toyboy3 wrote:

If we took all those laid up cruise ships out of the water the sea level would drop

*sniggers*

loukirby - 2020-12-30 09:06:00

spead wrote:

view the erosion on the West Coast and the associated insurance issues.
All due to sea level rise.

No, it is natural erosion. Most of NZ is actually rising out of the sea, much of it at a higher rate than recent sea level rises.

https://teara.govt.nz/files/m-8406-enz.jpg

tony9 - 2020-12-31 12:01:00

tony9 wrote:

No, it is natural erosion. Most of NZ is actually rising out of the sea, much of it at a higher rate than recent sea level rises.

https://teara.govt.nz/files/m-8406-enz.jpg

That would explain why Lyttelton sea level appears to be rising 0.5mm more than the other tide gauges. It is disgraceful that NIWA etc refuse to adjust tide gauge readings to allow for land rise or fall.

trade4us2 - 2020-12-31 12:57:00

A bit more detail of our floating island.... https://teara.govt.nz/en/map/8406/uplift-of-new-zealand

Bear in mind that this has been and will keep happening for millions of years. Sea level rise over that period is inconsequential to us.

The useable land are in NZ is getting bigger, not smaller as the sediment is carried down off the uprising mountains. We don't hear much about this as it does not support the global warming agenda.

tony9 - 2020-12-31 15:22:00

And we have the likes of Greta Thunberg, telling the young people that they only have twelve years left to live if we don't stop using fossil fuels immediately. Kids have enough to worry about already without the green globalist shock troops getting to them.

apollo11 - 2020-12-31 17:13:00

Media... Gotta sell a story somehow.

mechnificent - 2020-12-31 18:29:00