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Okay so we have an unconditional s&p agreement signed by both parties, however no deposit was paid on the due date! there has been little to no communication with the buyers lawyer ( their family is financing them in) and our conveyancer. Settlement day is this Friday but due to no money being paid we have not even begun to pack.Where do we stand if by some miracle it all gets paid on Friday?

shane038 - 2020-12-15 11:01:00
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shane038 wrote:

Okay so we have an unconditional s&p agreement signed by both parties, however no deposit was paid on the due date! there has been little to no communication with the buyers lawyer ( their family is financing them in) and our conveyancer. Settlement day is this Friday but due to no money being paid we have not even begun to pack.Where do we stand if by some miracle it all gets paid on Friday?

Anywhere except in the property you have sold. You promised vacant possession and will be in breach of contract if you do not provide it.

In saying that, you must communicate with your lawyer now. Was a deposit notice sent to the purchaser?

johnston - 2020-12-15 11:10:00
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Yes the deposit notice was sent, everything has been ignored....

shane038 - 2020-12-15 11:25:00
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Awful situation for you but as Johnston has already explained, you must talk to your lawyer NOW...
Your lawyer will explain the importance of having the property vacant and available for the purchasers to move into on possession day.
Even though they have not paid a deposit, you will still have to physically move out.
(Your lawyer needs you to move out because he has to prove it was available as per the unconditional sale agreement you have signed so he can help you in the next stage of the legal process)

I have been in a similar situation, it is extremely stressful but also imperative that you do exactly as your lawyer tells you.

Good luck op.

lovelurking - 2020-12-15 11:30:00
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shane038 wrote:

Yes the deposit notice was sent, everything has been ignored....

The contract may have been cancelled. Please contact your lawyer right now.

If the purchaser does not settle (assuming the contract has not been cancelled) then you have rights against the defaulting purchaser.

Out of curiosity please keep us posted. I wish you well.

johnston - 2020-12-15 11:56:00
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Thank you folks

shane038 - 2020-12-15 12:08:00
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You could in a sticky situation, just move everything onto the footpath and move it somewhere else after that.

tygertung - 2020-12-15 12:42:00
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if no deposit has been received on the due date and now you are doubting that the whole transaction will happen... then you need to be on the phone to your lawyer straight away, if not sooner, to get it sorted !!

onl_148 - 2020-12-15 13:00:00
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shane038 wrote:

Okay so we have an unconditional s&p agreement signed by both parties, however no deposit was paid on the due date! there has been little to no communication with the buyers lawyer ( their family is financing them in) and our conveyancer. Settlement day is this Friday but due to no money being paid we have not even begun to pack.Where do we stand if by some miracle it all gets paid on Friday?

have you been in an signed the transfer documentation( Client authority and tax statements) and seen a copy of the settlement statement, mortgage been discharged, heard from your bank?

gabbysnana - 2020-12-15 14:47:00
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I would have thought your agent would have been on the case....

superdave0_13 - 2020-12-15 22:44:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:

I would have thought your agent would have been on the case....

Nothing to do with the agent.

johnston - 2020-12-15 22:50:00
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Really? I wonder how they were expecting to get paid then.

superdave0_13 - 2020-12-15 23:03:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:

Really? I wonder how they were expecting to get paid then.


Good point, the REs are usually the first ones to get their sticky fingers on the money.
If the sale falls through, I understand they can still claim their commission from the vendor. Is that right?

masturbidder - 2020-12-15 23:14:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:

Really? I wonder how they were expecting to get paid then.

they achieved a sale. Not the agents fault if the parties fail to hand over the goods.

sparkychap - 2020-12-16 06:03:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:

Really? I wonder how they were expecting to get paid then.

Same as always, from the vendor.

In any event, how do you know that the agent has not tried to obtain the deposit? Other than making repeated requests what else do you think the agent should do?

johnston - 2020-12-16 06:21:00
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sparkychap wrote:

they achieved a sale. Not the agents fault if the parties fail to hand over the goods.

Yes, and due to the deposit not being paid the salesperson isn't going to see their share this side of Christmas.

superdave0_13 - 2020-12-16 07:15:00
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johnston wrote:

Same as always, from the vendor.

In any event, how do you know that the agent has not tried to obtain the deposit? Other than making repeated requests what else do you think the agent should do?

You have assumed a lot there with the main thing being there was an agent involved at all.

superdave0_13 - 2020-12-16 07:20:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:

You have assumed a lot there with the main thing being there was an agent involved at all.

You claimed there was an agent back at #10. What else have I supposedly assumed? Please list all the assumptions.

johnston - 2020-12-16 07:45:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:

Yes, and due to the deposit not being paid the salesperson isn't going to see their share this side of Christmas.

How do you know the agent will claim their commission or are you having a wild guess?

Edited by johnston at 7:48 am, Wed 16 Dec

johnston - 2020-12-16 07:45:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:

Yes, and due to the deposit not being paid the salesperson isn't going to see their share this side of Christmas.

Non payment of the deposit doesn't automatically nullify the agreement, only gives rise to an option for the vendor to cancel. Which they haven't. But the agent still has every right and may claim commission from the Vendor. And they may not, realising that if they do, they don't get any chance of marketing the property again if this deal falls through.

sparkychap - 2020-12-16 08:07:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:

Really? I wonder how they were expecting to get paid then.

If they were selling my property they wouldn’t be getting their commission until the sale is completed.
I tell everyone selling to tell their agents that and change the contract too. The salesperson might not like it but too bad,
Once bitten, twice shy...

lovelurking - 2020-12-16 08:32:00
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johnston wrote:

You claimed there was an agent back at #10. What else have I supposedly assumed? Please list all the assumptions.

LMFAO

smallwoods - 2020-12-16 08:36:00
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johnston wrote:

The contract may have been cancelled. Please contact your lawyer right now.

If the purchaser does not settle (assuming the contract has not been cancelled) then you have rights against the defaulting purchaser.

Out of curiosity please keep us posted. I wish you well.

If non-payment of the deposit doesn't cancel the contract, your lawyer could now ask their lawyer if the sale is likely to procced. No guarantee that it will but might ease your mind.

amasser - 2020-12-16 09:30:00
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If they're not intending to settle your lawyer is likely to be able to negotiate that you don't move out, but without prejudice to your right to sue the buyer. Are you buying and dependent on the sale proceeds?

nic48 - 2020-12-16 12:20:00
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Any updates?

johnston - 2020-12-16 12:34:00
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johnston wrote:

You claimed there was an agent back at #10


I was actually claiming the opposite.

superdave0_13 - 2020-12-16 15:08:00
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Hi shane 038,

I’m hoping you are too busy packing to update us but want to let you know I have my fingers crossed and am thinking of you...

lovelurking - 2020-12-17 08:37:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:


I was actually claiming the opposite.

Not well written then!

smallwoods - 2020-12-17 09:21:00
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superdave0_13 wrote:


I was actually claiming the opposite.

I would have thought your agent would have been on the case....

Your statement clearly implies the op had an agent. It's not you Trevor Mallard is it?

Edited by johnston at 9:33 am, Thu 17 Dec

johnston - 2020-12-17 09:31:00
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johnston wrote:

I would have thought your agent would have been on the case....

Your statement clearly implies the op had an agent. It's not you Trevor Mallard is it?

When you read it the way you did it does. When you read it the way I wrote it it doesn't..... Cheers Trev

superdave0_13 - 2020-12-17 11:48:00
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Pre settlement inspection should have taken place yesterday.... I hope the O.P has taken steps to crash the deal as opposed to moving out and hoping for the best.

superdave0_13 - 2020-12-17 11:54:00
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Friday tomorrow shane

gabbysnana - 2020-12-17 19:07:00
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gabbysnana wrote:

Friday tomorrow shane

So if the buyer doesn’t show, will he still have 12 (?) working days before the pin gets pulled on that contract?
If so, that will make it drag out until after the lawyers reopen and therefore won’t be resolved until late January...
It’s a poxy time of year for you to get this sorted Shane ????

lovelurking - 2020-12-17 20:00:00
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Things have gone all quiet - wot happened or didn't happen? Would appreciate some sort of update for future reference. Capricorngirl

mlarkin - 2020-12-21 19:21:00
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Too busy shifting .

ginks - 2020-12-21 19:33:00
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ginks wrote:

Too busy shifting .

Possibly not, OP has been online today.

desi1969 - 2020-12-21 19:39:00
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so what happened??

trudyg1 - 2021-01-04 23:31:00
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Another hit and run.

sw20 - 2021-01-05 09:42:00
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desi1969 wrote:

Possibly not, OP has been online today.


You stalk posters!?

upfront1 - 2021-01-20 14:54:00
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upfront1 wrote:


You stalk posters!?

doesn’t everyone?

sparkychap - 2021-01-20 14:56:00
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lovelurking - 2021-01-20 16:23:00
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lovelurking wrote:

???? Bring back Shane, ????bring back Shane, ????bring back Shane, ????bring back Shane, ????bring back Shane, ????bring back Shane, ????bring back Shane, ????bring back Shane, ????bring back Shane...

And while you're at it Buck's still waiting!

shanreagh - 2021-01-20 17:32:00
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Wot 'appened?

johnston - 2021-01-25 20:06:00
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johnston wrote:

Wot 'appened?

Who knows? That's the point.

sparkychap - 2021-01-25 20:13:00
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Well ...

johnston - 2021-02-04 09:08:00
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Did everything work out okay?

pottster - 2021-02-16 23:23:00
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Post and ruuuuuuuuuuuuuun.

shanreagh - 2021-02-17 07:46:00
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shane038 wrote:

Thank you folks

You’re welcome, but don’t leave us hanging! How did it all go??

thumbs647 - 2021-02-17 15:06:00
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shane038 wrote:

Okay so we have an unconditional s&p agreement signed by both parties, however no deposit was paid on the due date! there has been little to no communication with the buyers lawyer ( their family is financing them in) and our conveyancer. Settlement day is this Friday but due to no money being paid we have not even begun to pack.Where do we stand if by some miracle it all gets paid on Friday?

sounds like you need another lawyer.. (assuming you had one ?)

thornton1961 - 2021-02-18 20:00:00
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