According to law changes, landlords had to put insulation into the rental properties, if it didn't have it already.

Property manager has advised tenant, that there will be an inspection (insulation was installed about a year ago) tomorrow (Wed), but the tenant will be out, and has asked for the inspection to be postponed.

Insulation inspector has advised her that they are able to get the key from the property manager, and come into the home to do the inspection, obviously without the tenant being there.

Is this allowed to happen....that they can come into your house without you there? I know that I sure as hell wouldn't want them in my house if I wasn't going to be present.

Thoughts?
Thanks.

Edited by crafters_corner at 7:11 pm, Tue 1 Dec

crafters_corner - 2020-12-01 19:09:00

Sounds like a rort on the poor property owner. The "insulation inspector" does not do meth as well, do they.

The insulation has to be installed to spec. No periodic inspections are needed unless the tenant explicitly asks for it.

If it does go ahead, make it very clear to the property manager that they (PM) must be in attendance at all time.

Me, I would ask the PM for the section of the legislation that requires this.

tony9 - 2020-12-01 19:22:00

tony9 wrote:

Sounds like a rort on the poor property owner. The "insulation inspector" does not do meth as well, do they.

The insulation has to be installed to spec. No periodic inspections are needed unless the tenant explicitly asks for it.

If it does go ahead, make it very clear to the property manager that they (PM) must be in attendance at all time.

Me, I would ask the PM for the section of the legislation that requires this.

From 1st December 2020 a Healthy Homes Compliance Statement needs to be completed for all new or renewed tenancies. This is the template - https://www.tenancy.govt.nz/assets/Forms-templates/complianc
e-statement.pdf

So if you don’t have all the information the easiest way to get it is to outsource an inspection. They are relatively cheap.

Edited by wachael1 at 7:36 pm, Tue 1 Dec

wachael1 - 2020-12-01 19:35:00

wachael1 wrote:

From 1st December 2020 a Healthy Homes Compliance Statement needs to be completed for all new or renewed tenancies. This is the template - https://www.tenancy.govt.nz/assets/Forms-templates/complianc
e-statement.pdf

So if you don’t have all the information the easiest way to get it is to outsource an inspection. They are relatively cheap.

That's not what I'm talking about though. What you are showing, is if the landlord has a new or renewed tenancy??

There is no where that says that the sitting tenant...at the time of the insulation being installed, and still there today...will be getting the insulation inspected.

crafters_corner - 2020-12-01 19:43:00

No they don’t have to but my boss owns quite a few rentals and we are just going ahead and getting them done anyway so we have them on file we when have a change of tenant. It’s not really a big deal but understand not wanting a stranger in the house alone. The PM should just organise it to coincide with an inspection.

Edited by wachael1 at 7:52 pm, Tue 1 Dec

wachael1 - 2020-12-01 19:51:00

Yes above you are correct, new tenancy for the latest changes, insulation should and is in now.The tenant can refuse anyone to enter the property if they are not there, As for the inspection, who is this, when the insulation was installed there should have been a certificate issued/invoice /details etc. Just ask a bit more and give them a time if they have to come around, along with the property manager. Get an email. Find out whats going on, might be harmless, then they can wait until you are home or your friend.

msigg - 2020-12-01 19:57:00

I am pretty sure they can enter the house to do inspections and essential work whether you are there or not, provided the proper notice period has been given. May be debatable if this fits that category.

kittylittle - 2020-12-01 19:58:00

msigg wrote:

The tenant can refuse anyone to enter the property if they are not there,

Wrong

sparkychap - 2020-12-01 19:58:00

Why doesn't anyone bother to check the actual legisation before taking wild stabs:

Landlords right of entry:

for the purpose of complying, or preparing to comply, with the healthy homes standards (including any prospective requirements of those standards), at any time between 8 o’clock in the morning and 7 o’clock in the evening of any day, after giving to the tenant notice of the intended entry and the reason for it at least 24 hours before the intended entry; or

sparkychap - 2020-12-01 20:01:00

sparkychap wrote:

Why doesn't anyone bother to check the actual legisation before taking wild stabs:

Landlords right of entry:

for the purpose of complying, or preparing to comply, with the healthy homes standards (including any prospective requirements of those standards), at any time between 8 o’clock in the morning and 7 o’clock in the evening of any day, after giving to the tenant notice of the intended entry and the reason for it at least 24 hours before the intended entry; or

Or...???

Anything before "or" that you said, is not valid, as the installation has been done...a year ago.

crafters_corner - 2020-12-01 20:05:00

lindymf55 wrote:

Or...???

Anything before "or" that you said, is not valid, as the installation has been done...a year ago.

Doesn't matter, the inspection is required to be done now.

sparkychap - 2020-12-01 20:06:00

sparkychap wrote:

Doesn't matter, the inspection is required to be done now.

Of course it matters. Why is an inspection required, after only a year??

crafters_corner - 2020-12-01 20:08:00

lindymf55 wrote:

Of course it matters. Why is an inspection required, after only a year??

See Post #3. It's a new requirement.

sparkychap - 2020-12-01 20:10:00

sparkychap wrote:

See Post #3. It's a new requirement.

I despair.

You are talking about the insulation requirements. I know about that, and it's not what I've asked about.

crafters_corner - 2020-12-01 20:17:00

lindymf55 wrote:

I despair.

You are talking about the insulation requirements. I know about that, and it's not what I've asked about.

He’s not talking about the insulation requirements. He’s talking about the compliance statement. It covers far more than just insulation. Did you bother to read the template?

wachael1 - 2020-12-01 20:21:00

lindymf55 wrote:

I despair.

You are talking about the insulation requirements. I know about that, and it's not what I've asked about.

What answer do you what then? The real one, or a made up one that fits your world view?

sparkychap - 2020-12-01 20:23:00

Sorry guys for any misunderstanding on my part. I'm grumpy, and not taking in things.

I've just had some clarification on this, by the PM... it is "an assessment to see if the house will comply with the new healthy homes legislation coming in on the 1st of July 2021".

I can see that I didn't understand, or read it properly, or something else.

crafters_corner - 2020-12-01 20:31:00

All good lindy.

And the tenant doesn't have t be present for most inspections like this. The only case where the tenant CAN impose reasonable conditions (like being present) is when the landlord is showing the home to potential purchasers or tenants.

sparkychap - 2020-12-01 20:33:00

Good on you lindymf55 for getting clarification and letting us know,yes the new legislation 2021.

msigg - 2020-12-01 20:47:00

I work for a property manager and was asked to clean out an underfloor area, to preceed a Ground Moisture Barrier installation.In the far corner of the house, all the insulation had been pulled out and thrown on the ground. The current tenants were there when the insulation was installed, But we can't prove they removed it. So now we are padlocking all underhouse areas to stop this happening. By 1/7/2021 all landlords have to provide tenants with a 7 page healthy homes report, explaining why or why not areas are insulated, have extractor fans and thermostatically controlled heating devices..

blueviking - 2020-12-01 21:05:00

The landlords and property managers are under pressure to complete this , so if someone is available, then we need to get them in.Same as the installation of rangehoods and extractor fans in bathrooms. The earlier we get this done, the better for everyone.

blueviking - 2020-12-01 21:11:00