Anyone willing to hazard a rough ballpark figure to put an ensuite (1.25 x 2.2m) in a corner of a bedroom? It would involve adding two walls and a door; changing the lining on the other two walls and ceiling to aqualine; putting a window in one external wall; preparing the floor; installing, waterproofing and connecting to plumbing a shower enclosure, toilet, and small vanity; putting in an extractor fan, heated towel rail, power point, and wall mirror shelving unit; laying a waterproof floor; tiling a small backsplash above the basin; painting the bathroom (and the bedroom side of the new walls); and making good the edges of the carpet in the bedroom around it.

Edited by luteba at 10:19 pm, Sun 29 Nov

luteba - 2020-11-29 22:09:00

Are you going to do any of the work yourself or just "get a bloke in" to do the whole job (the bloke could also be a woman, a bloke-ess)?

tygertung - 2020-11-30 06:22:00

Do it yourself for 8k, if you can, easy job for a good handyman , if you get council plans, tradesman etc it will cost 14 - 16k.

msigg - 2020-11-30 07:15:00

$20k fully legal.

stevo2 - 2020-11-30 07:18:00

We spent around 20k on ours. Could have been cheaper if we didn't tile the whole room, had cheaper fittings etc.

cinderellagowns - 2020-11-30 07:32:00

Go on Builderscrack. 1)They have a cost estimator tool 2)Get estimates on price when you post the job.

lythande1 - 2020-11-30 08:35:00

lythande1 wrote:

Go on Builderscrack. 1)They have a cost estimator tool 2)Get estimates on price when you post the job.

O/P - have you considered making it a wet room?

amasser - 2020-11-30 09:39:00

Thanks all, those are exactly the sorts of guestimates I was hoping someone could provide.

(We're working out how much we'd lose by doing this as a temporary arrangement while we wait for council rules to change so we can knock down the sleepout and build a self-contained studio/tiny house instead).

luteba - 2020-11-30 11:40:00

In a corner of a bedroom? maybe make the door a cavity slider.

thumbs647 - 2020-11-30 14:55:00

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hooserat - 2020-11-30 23:03:00

hooserat wrote:

council rules to change? what rules you talking about?

Changes to the exemptions permitted from building consents:

https://www.building.govt.nz/projects-and-consents/planning-
a-successful-build/scope-and-design/check-if-you-need-consen
ts/building-work-that-doesnt-need-a-building-consent/new-bui
lding-consent-exemptions/

sparkychap - 2020-12-01 07:09:00

hooserat wrote:

council rules to change? what rules you talking about?

We have had extensive changes proposed in residential areas in Wellington along the main transport spines. Done in a rush and hugely unpopular with some because of the blanket approach and 'mickey mouse' forecast population growth figures used.

shanreagh - 2020-12-01 09:39:00

hooserat wrote:

council rules to change? what rules you talking about?

I'm in Wellington, Inner Residential. At present a second dwelling on the same site requires a resouce consent. Because a resource consent is required, the council gets to look at things like parking. I'm expecting the rules to change in my area so that second dwellings no longer require resource consent, so that only the building code matters (and parking isn't allowed to be considered under the new National Policy Statement on Urban Development).
For now, we can build the minor dwelling without the kitchen (and add the kitchen later); or we could add a bathroom to the existing sleepout. Obviously building the minor dwelling will be more outlay in the short term, and date unknown for when we might be able to add the kitchen; but adding the bathroom to the sleepout that we're just going to knock down would mean (based on estimates above) throwing away about $15k (we'd reuse the window, and the fittings other than the shower, but the labour and other things would be dead money).
(We're not DIYers other than painting and tiling. And too busy with day jobs to do it DIY anyway).

luteba - 2020-12-01 10:05:00

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hooserat - 2020-12-01 10:55:00

hooserat wrote:

reminds me of a house that i looked at that had walk on access only and they built a 2 car garage on it, which they made into 4 bedrooms after it was signed off.

Can create problems when they sell it and also if you have an insurance claim on the house for any reason

martin11 - 2020-12-01 11:19:00

luteba wrote:

Thanks all, those are exactly the sorts of guestimates I was hoping someone could provide.

(We're working out how much we'd lose by doing this as a temporary arrangement while we wait for council rules to change so we can knock down the sleepout and build a self-contained studio/tiny house instead).

District plan may change so you won't need a resource consent. But there is no indicated change in the building Act that would allow living (including toilet etc.) in a building without a building consent.

tony9 - 2020-12-01 17:41:00

hooserat wrote:

sewer needs council consent.
build a 30 m2 building does not

It won't be a problem getting a building consent for the sewer connection. It would be having to get a resource consent (triggered by including a kitchen) that would be the problem.
I already have a building on the same footprint with no services except electricity, so building something without a sewer connection leaves me no better off than I am now.

luteba - 2020-12-02 07:18:00

...I should also have clarified that adding the kitchen later would be done legally, ie waiting until resource consent was no longer required or easier to attain.

luteba - 2020-12-02 07:20:00