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Basic Home Printer recommendation (Inkjet)

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Hi,
Looking to buy a new printer for someone, their old one is stuffed.
I have an OfficeJet 8010, which works well and I like - except there don't seem to be any 'compatible' cartridges for it, and genuine ones are a complete rip-off.
Is there a similar sort of spec printer that DOES have compatible cartridge options ?
Thanks !

extrayda - 2020-11-13 22:50:00
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I use to use Brother printer but friends bought new ones and had problems with them. Had an Epson a couple of years now and still goes well. I bought some refillable cartridges from Aliexpress and just buy ink here and fill them. Very cheap and never had a problem.

peanuts37 - 2020-11-13 23:14:00
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What you look for is the cost of cartridge AND most imp0ortnat, how many pages it will do. Cheap ones do bugger all and thus the cost of ink is through the roof.
Use this:

https://costperpage.nz/

lythande1 - 2020-11-14 07:44:00
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Have a good look at the various ecotank (refillable ink tank), printers around, we brought an Epson Ecotank printer about 4-5 years ago when they first came out and have had problem free, very cheap printing since then. Up front cost of printer a little more but being able to fill the ink tanks yourself makes for very cheap printing.

Edited by shinedog at 8:16 am, Sat 14 Nov

shinedog - 2020-11-14 08:08:00
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I have an HP ENVY5020 & It Scans Copys & Prints. It would The Best one I have had.
Thoroughly Recommend it.

ferrit47 - 2020-11-14 11:58:00
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Canon TS5060 . Prints, scans etc. Cheap. Works well. Loves compatible inks, ($35 for full set of 5 cartridges.????

Edited by nice_lady at 12:08 pm, Sat 14 Nov

nice_lady - 2020-11-14 12:08:00
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You can buy a new printer good enough for home use for about $50 and they are cheaper than buying ink.
Why do you think all the printers on Trade Me have no ink in them

mber2 - 2020-11-16 22:49:00
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new printers come with 'starter' inks that are not as full as off the shelf ink carts.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2020-11-17 08:07:00
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I'd recommend the epson ecotank printers
https://www.epson.co.nz/ecotank/

bitsnpieces2020 - 2020-11-17 08:08:00
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mber2 wrote:

You can buy a new printer good enough for home use for about $50 and they are cheaper than buying ink.
Why do you think all the printers on Trade Me have no ink in them


Because you get the thing, with it's not full bundled cartridges, and find the replacements cost the earth and last 5 minutes, (bugger all pages) and people ditch them.
It's not economical to do that.
Do your research first. I also have an Ecotank now.

lythande1 - 2020-11-17 08:10:00
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extrayda wrote:

Hi,
Looking to buy a new printer for someone, their old one is stuffed.
I have an OfficeJet 8010, which works well and I like - except there don't seem to be any 'compatible' cartridges for it, and genuine ones are a complete rip-off.
Is there a similar sort of spec printer that DOES have compatible cartridge options ?
Thanks !


Why an Inkjet?
Are they mostly doing text printing
Basic Color printing
High Definition color printing (Photo's on photo paper)

The only real reason I can find for buying a color Inkjet is for printing HD color photo's on photo paper.

All other printing is easily handled by Laser printers
Laser printers last longer
Don't care if they sit for a few months
Cheap & reliable compatible toner cartridges are available on Trademe
No messy ink or leaking cartridges.

I get 1500 page toner cartridges on here for my Canon LB6000 mono laser printer at $25 including shipping
OEM is $85

mrfxit - 2020-11-17 08:18:00
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Thanks all, she went with an EcoJet, which seems to be a good option for her.
My 8010 is ok for me, as I don't use it much, so only replace the cartridges about once a year - the $75 purchase price for the printer makes this ok to do.
mrfixit, I agree re lasers, but last I looked at the colour ones, they were quite spendy, and toners seemed to vary.
I do have a mono laser at home, which I would use for any amount of volume printing.

I also used to just replace the printer regularly, but they now come with minimal ink in them (10% - 20% iirc), they got wise to that trick.
When there were 'compatible' inks available it was cheap to replace them. Not so currently for new models.

extrayda - 2020-11-19 10:36:00
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extrayda wrote:


I also used to just replace the printer regularly, but they now come with minimal ink in them (10% - 20% iirc), they got wise to that trick.
When there were 'compatible' inks available it was cheap to replace them. Not so currently for new models.

I only buy printers if aftermarket cartridges are available

king1 - 2020-11-19 13:02:00
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the comments on here have not filled me with joy. I've been thinking of buying a new printer for ages, the last one I bought was a cheapie and got bunged up on the first run through. By the time I got the crumpled paper out, it was dead.
I thought buying one that cost me a bit might be the way to go. The best one I had was a Canon pixma, cost me about $400 (or more). It lasted for ages till I allowed someone to come here to do some printing, Don't know what they did, but it was dead before they finished.
I'm beginning to think I don't NEED one, I've lived without one for loong enough.

colin433 - 2020-11-24 19:22:00
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We have a Pixma. $59 -$50 discount from buying a laptop: cost $9.

Inks $35 total for all 5 cartridges. Compatibles. It loves them. Had it around 3: years. Trouble free.

There's no way I am going to pay big bucks for another one.

Edited by nice_lady at 8:34 pm, Tue 24 Nov

nice_lady - 2020-11-24 20:34:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

new printers come with 'starter' inks that are not as full as off the shelf ink carts.

My (admittedly very cheap) HP laser only came with a half sized cartridge too. Not sure whether the cheap Brother models are the same but it'd be worth cheking

vtecintegra - 2020-11-25 08:14:00
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mrfxit wrote:


Why an Inkjet?
Laser printers last longer
Don't care if they sit for a few months
Cheap & reliable compatible toner cartridges are available on Trademe

I get 1500 page toner cartridges on here for my Canon LB6000 mono laser printer at $25 including shipping
OEM is $85


And why a Laser? Tell me how many pages you get from one toner...and how much the toner is.
I like colour too, so it would have to be a colour laser. IT's no different, cheap lasers do bugger all pages, same issue as ink....

lythande1 - 2020-11-25 08:19:00
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lythande1 wrote:


And why a Laser? Tell me how many pages you get from one toner...and how much the toner is.
I like colour too, so it would have to be a colour laser. IT's no different, cheap lasers do bugger all pages, same issue as ink....

He did say 1500 pages. I haven't done it but apparently on my canon laser you can refill the original cartridge with powder. Even cheaper.

Edited by blogzy at 7:22 am, Sun 13 Dec

blogzy - 2020-12-13 07:20:00
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the number of pages is a very old standard. its based on a standard page of text, so 5% toner/ink coverage. You start doing 1/2 page pictures and your 1500 pages becomes 150 pages.

bitsnpieces2020 - 2020-12-13 08:05:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

the number of pages is a very old standard. its based on a standard page of text, so 5% toner/ink coverage. You start doing 1/2 page pictures and your 1500 pages becomes 150 pages.


I know that. It's a bunch of bs by printer manufacturers......work it out, ink per litre...toner per kg.
Whats in it? Gold?

lythande1 - 2020-12-13 08:39:00
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lythande1 wrote:


And why a Laser? Tell me how many pages you get from one toner...and how much the toner is.
I like colour too, so it would have to be a colour laser. IT's no different, cheap lasers do bugger all pages, same issue as ink....

Don't care if they sit for a few months

king1 - 2020-12-13 09:03:00
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lythande1 wrote:


I know that. It's a bunch of bs by printer manufacturers......work it out, ink per litre...toner per kg.
Whats in it? Gold?


The Print std is there for a base line.
Without a base line, there is NO possible reasonable comparison over a wide range of printers & print jobs without a huge amount of data to look at.
Hence the base line.

mrfxit - 2020-12-13 09:39:00
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king1 wrote:

Don't care if they sit for a few months


My last 2 Laser printers for my office, came from different customers that said the printers had been in the garage for around 3 years each.
First time turn on & test print was perfect.
I only decided to swap printers because the second printer is a multifunction mono laser, (It's an upgrade for me from the std printer)
My home 4 year old canon laser has also been upgraded to a multifunction only because I had it come in.
It had been sitting for around 1 year before I got it.

mrfxit - 2020-12-13 09:44:00
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bitsnpieces2020 wrote:

the number of pages is a very old standard. its based on a standard page of text, so 5% toner/ink coverage. You start doing 1/2 page pictures and your 1500 pages becomes 150 pages.


Doesn't matter regardless, more toner/ ink used will always chew up the cartridges.
Less toner/ ink used will always mean longer lasting cartridges.

The Base line is there as a ... ... baseline.
Any cartridge has to perform to the baseline std or better.
Any less & you have grounds for free replacement or refund (Presuming you do the testing to prove it) & then you have grounds to cover costs of doing the testing etc

mrfxit - 2020-12-13 09:48:00
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blogzy wrote:

He did say 1500 pages. I haven't done it but apparently on my canon laser you can refill the original cartridge with powder. Even cheaper.


Generally speaking, as long as you use the same grade & same brand laser powder from a similar spec & same brand laser printer & it's dry ....... then you shouldn't have a problem, THO .. .. some of those with smart chips may need resetting.

Edited by mrfxit at 9:52 am, Sun 13 Dec

mrfxit - 2020-12-13 09:51:00
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