Office 365
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| 1 | Can anyone clarify this one? In the past, one bought a license to use the various versions of Office. But now there seems to be a yearly subscription fee attached to Office 365. I did encounter a PC that came with it pre-installed and there was no subscription fee related to that although it did appear to be remotely served - without www connectivity, it wouldn't run. But they also talk of it being installed locally - does that mean that they can remotely control it's use in order to exhort continued subscription cash out of us? Not like the old Office versions that just ran all OK on their own. tegretol - 2020-10-23 10:12:00 |
| 2 | If you don't want to engage with the Office 365 scam, try an open source office suite such as libre office. Actually the microsoft office problem is what drove me to start using Linux all those years ago. I think it is called 365 as you keep paying every year. Or use an old version of office. tygertung - 2020-10-23 10:56:00 |
| 3 | You can still buy standalone Office 2019 licenses. just one example.. https://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/software/ms-office/listi bronzeblood - 2020-10-23 11:27:00 |
| 4 | Once you've paid whatever subscription you want (and you can pay monthly if you want) you can install the various office apps you want to locally. We have the home one which gives you 5 seats and the usual office apps (Outlook, Word, Excel, Access, onedrive etc...) eaglefan - 2020-10-23 11:44:00 |
| 5 | As above, there are really three different types of office now 1. online - use word/excel etc in a browser - this is free but presumably ad driven 2.Microsoft 365 Subscription - monthly/annual fee 3.Office 2019 one off purchase There are different versions of each depending on needs... Note that the link above for purchase of Home & Business on trademe is a third of the recommended retail price, which would suggest to me that despite what the seller says, there is something NOT genuine about the product... you might as well buy a key on ebay for a few bucks... Edited by king1 at 12:10 pm, Fri 23 Oct king1 - 2020-10-23 12:10:00 |
| 6 | One of the advantages of Office 365 is that you get 1TB of cloud storage. (And that's per person if you get the family pack.) I use it as a backup for my backup. That alone is (almost) worth the subscription price. enserf - 2020-10-23 14:45:00 |
| 7 | There is also a standalone version of Office 2021 coming soon, if what I read recently is true. cube_guy - 2020-10-23 14:51:00 |
| 8 | Crikey, that IS a lot of money. tygertung - 2020-10-23 16:53:00 |
| 9 | tygertung wrote: I guess some people value quality over price king1 - 2020-10-23 19:02:00 |
| 10 | Perceived quality maybe. If it is expensive it must be good, right? tygertung - 2020-10-23 19:10:00 |
| 11 | tygertung wrote: and popular with consumers... king1 - 2020-10-23 19:18:00 |
| 12 | Yep unless you REALLY specifically need Microsoft Ofice you're going to find that the 100% price reduction and the very impressive collection of programs if you use say Libre Office instead will truly impress you and most likely be all that you'll ever need. Edited by nice_lady at 7:31 pm, Fri 23 Oct nice_lady - 2020-10-23 19:31:00 |
| 13 | Thanks. That bring clarity. But have another question that only a 365 user can answer. Will older versions of Word (say Word 2003) read .doc files created by Word 365? I know that 365 will read the older files but will it work the other way around? tegretol - 2020-10-25 09:34:00 |
| 14 | tegretol wrote: eaglefan - 2020-10-25 10:41:00 |
| 15 | eaglefan wrote: Yep understand that. But eg I know that Word2003 will not read Word 2013's .doc files.... wondered if 365 may have the same problem tegretol - 2020-10-25 16:16:00 |
| 16 | Yes. eaglefan - 2020-10-25 16:38:00 |
| 17 | Office is always backwards compatible. Same with Libre office. nice_lady - 2020-10-25 16:45:00 |
| 18 | WPS Office is anoter options. Some OEMs such a HP have it installed on new systems. It came on my wifes Win10 laptop and works very well. PDF handling is exceptional. Edited by mark.p at 5:17 pm, Sun 25 Oct mark.p - 2020-10-25 17:09:00 |
| 19 | nice_lady wrote: Yes I know it's backwards compatible but is if forwards compatible? tegretol - 2020-10-25 22:16:00 |
| 20 | tegretol wrote: it makes no sense whatsoever that they would change the .doc format to be incompatible with earlier versions, when MS has already well moved on to .docx format by the time 2013 came out.... king1 - 2020-10-25 23:17:00 |
| 21 | tegretol wrote:
Too easy nice_lady - 2020-10-26 04:40:00 |
| 22 | king1 wrote:
Which is why lots use LibreOffice and get the best quality and best price. tony9 - 2020-11-08 16:34:00 |
| 23 | Libreoffice is fine for the average home user who might not use it that often but imho MS Office is a far superior product. The only reason LO gets any real traction is because of the Anti-Microsoft brigade, and they're not really making product comparisons... king1 - 2020-11-08 18:38:00 |
| 24 | People feel comfortable with what they become used to. I use LO as I have used Open office then Libreoffice for 20 years. I find MS office no better when I have to use it. My wife has Office 365 and is happy with that. So we have both available in our household. gsimpson - 2020-11-08 19:04:00 |
| 25 | There is a downside to MS office. They have this new "Ribbon" feature at the top of the screen (been like this for a few years). Now that 16:9 monitors have come into favour, the vertical size of the screen has reduced, and the ribbon takes up a lot of vertical space, leaving not a great deal of room for text. Whilst 16:9 monitors are good for 16:9 video, they are not so good for reading text as you are constantly scrolling which I find irritating. tygertung - 2020-11-09 06:43:00 |
