Have a think about this and tell me your thoughts.
I have an internet plan with My Republic for fiber 100/20 or 100MBs down and 20MBs up. Now I've just inquired about this situation with My Republic and they stopped communicating and wouldn't or couldn't answer the questions.
It is this.
I only ever get 40MBs download. I check and test all the time. On an ookla test I get 100 down 20 up as per plan but this is only between dedicated test servers not the general internet. BUT and this is the BIG BUT, why, if they can consistently supply higher speeds to people on 950/500 why can they not supply a measly 100MBs consistently instead of never, Oh, except through their dedicated servers of course.

Now it ultimately comes down to that the ISP does not throttle connections or at least that's what My Republic claims. But I ask you this. I get 40MBs as a normal peak on download speeds. They say this is because of the remote servers connecting for the download but if that is the case any increase in speed between dedicated server to dedicated server as in the ookla test will not provide any increase in speed as the ISP does not have control over the remote server. So, how do they increase the download speeds on a higher plan? If I'm getting 40MBs download and I have a 100MBs plan then where is the throttling on a 100MBs plan that stops it from reaching max consistently if they can supply this to other customers on a higher plan. It MUST be throttled by the ISP it cannot be anyone else.

If the ISP sells a 100MBS plan which it is fully capable of supplying consistently but actually supply's only 50% of that what else can it be????

biggerbud - 2020-08-05 17:51:00

The stated connection speed is the last mile speed, that with which it connects to the LFC, e.g., Chorus' infrastructure.

For example, if Google Drive limit (and they do) the up speed into their servers at 20 Mbps then you would get 20 Mbps outbound to their servers on 100/20 and on 950/500.

ISP doesn't throttle anything, at best you can argue that LFC does the throttling. ISP is customer of LFC just like you.

spyware - 2020-08-05 18:18:00

CIR of the residential bitstream 2 connections is only 2.5 Mbps, that's all the speed Chorus have to guarantee.

spyware - 2020-08-05 18:32:00

so they have us all by the balls and there is nothing that can be done?

biggerbud - 2020-08-05 23:49:00

spyware wrote:

CIR of the residential bitstream 2 connections is only 2.5 Mbps, that's all the speed Chorus have to guarantee.

But I get internet from an ISP, not Chorus. Why do they sell plans knowing the speed will never be reached. That's false advertising

biggerbud - 2020-08-05 23:51:00

Also I cannot figure out the point of high speed internet if your only going to get the same speed anyway.

biggerbud - 2020-08-05 23:53:00

If you're on fibre and you're not getting close to full line speed (via a speed test on a device plugged directly into the router), then something is wrong. I get 980mbit from my gig connection.

If you're not on fibre, it's all about distance from exchange.

That's speed tests though. Day to day speeds depend on the servers you're connecting to and what part of the world they're located in.

Also our internet infrastructure is very good in NZ for a country of our size, and even countries far larger than ours - 15th in the world in fact:
https://www.speedtest.net/global-index

Edited by videomonkey at 12:08 am, Thu 6 Aug

videomonkey - 2020-08-06 00:04:00

biggerbud wrote:

Also I cannot figure out the point of high speed internet if your only going to get the same speed anyway.

One day things will be faster. All infrastructure needs updating. Think about it, say 1000 people want to connect to server cluster at 1 gigabit/sec, then the backbone to the server cluster would need to be 1 terabit/sec.

Edited by spyware at 6:20 am, Thu 6 Aug

spyware - 2020-08-06 06:19:00

Also note that your GPON (gigabit passive optical connection) is optically split 16 ways with your neighbours.

If you want dedicated high speed circuits between points on Internet then they are available but will cost you many thousands/month and so they should. The residential plans are just that, cheap plans for every man and dog to access Internet with potential given optimal circumstances that you'll get near max possible throughput.

spyware - 2020-08-06 06:25:00

Yeah I know that every household is different and some have big bandwidth requirements so they want high speed connections. Ours has two of us living here. We're on the 30Mb deal. Have been for years. It's always reliable, always very close to 30Mb/s and entirely suits us. I guess if we had 3 kids and two adults and we were all streaming video's/games whatever then we'd need higher speed connectivity. First world Problems ?
I recall when we got Adsl. We'd been on dial up for a few years, had two phone lines, one was for calls the other was dedicated to internet connectivity as Hubby was doing a lot of tech work back then. Mobile phones were still in their infancy. Then, somehow, we won a free years ADSL. It was 2Mb/s. Hubby just about jumped through the roof in joy when we got the call from Xtra that we'd won some competition. It was a HUGE increase in speed on our dialup and of course we instantly cut off the 2nd phone line as it was unnecessary. Guess that saved us about $1000 that year in cost of 2nd line and the free connection. And it was FAST. Well relatively - and anyone here who used dial up will comprehend the difference between 56Kb and 2Mb. Now it seems even 500Mbs isn't fast enough for some. It's pretty crazy.

nice_lady - 2020-08-06 06:55:00

biggerbud wrote:

Why do they sell plans knowing the speed will never be reached. That's false advertising

I did. We got around 70. Now we are on the as fast as it can plan. It varies, traffic can affect it too, how many people jump on at once in house and on what, for instance. As with adsl, lots of things can affect speed.

Just now 655mbps, but we have had 300 ish at times.

lythande1 - 2020-08-06 08:47:00

I'm also with MR and if I plugged in using a LAN cable, I got 100/20.
MR offered full speed as a trial for 3 months a few years back and their tech was so helpful setting up my modem but still never got over 400 up or down.
My modem packed in and bought a new ASUS RT-68U and the speed shot up to 950/500.
I have a device called SamKnows connected to my ONT box and it measure the fibre pre-modem - it's for the Ministry of Commerce to keep a check on fibre network's state. I got full speed to my lounge for 96% last month.
Just done a test on my PC in upstairs office on wifi. Modem downstairs.
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9869469028

fishb8 - 2020-08-06 16:56:00

biggerbud wrote:

But I get internet from an ISP, not Chorus. Why do they sell plans knowing the speed will never be reached. That's false advertising

Welcome to the modern world where individual customers are a mere speck in the balance sheet.

tegretol - 2020-08-07 09:56:00

I also used to use dialup, initially with a 14k modem. It was really slow. About 200 bytes a second download speed during the day, and if you went on in the middle of the night you could get up to the dizzy speeds of 1.3 kilobytes per second.

I am delighted with the ADSL connection we now have where you can easily get 1-2 megabytes per second download speeds. Amazing.

tygertung - 2020-08-07 12:32:00

I downloaded a movie this morning at 230 mb/second.

fishb8 - 2020-08-07 13:11:00

fishb8 wrote:

My modem packed in and bought a new ASUS RT-68U and the speed shot up to 950/500.
I have a device called SamKnows connected to my ONT box and it measure the fibre pre-modem - it's for the Ministry of Commerce to keep a check on fibre network's state. I got full speed to my lounge for 96% last month.

I have a gig connection and a samknows box too, i only averaged 30.7% of my full speed but am told that theres nothing wrong with my connection :(

mush13 - 2020-08-10 18:35:00

mush13 wrote:

I have a gig connection and a samknows box too, i only averaged 30.7% of my full speed but am told that theres nothing wrong with my connection :(

What's down/up speeds?
You won't get full speed but up to 200 down should be doable. Have you got onto your ISP to find out what's wrong?
Best of luck????

fishb8 - 2020-08-12 14:23:00

mush13 wrote:

I have a gig connection and a samknows box too, i only averaged 30.7% of my full speed but am told that theres nothing wrong with my connection :(

Maybe you're a Spark customer??

spyware - 2020-08-12 16:35:00

My speeds are ok as i get 520mbps download (using their testing app) which the ISP reckons is good for a 900mb connection.

And no, not spark...

Edited by mush13 at 9:45 pm, Sat 15 Aug

mush13 - 2020-08-15 21:44:00

520/950=54.7%
520 is good for wifi

fishb8 - 2020-08-17 11:48:00

Speedtests can vary between hardware/OS.

I get 916/517 to Stuff Fibre - Auckland on Ubuntu 16.04 box and 433/524 to same server on W10 machine through same switch. Both measurements via speedtest CLI.

spyware - 2020-08-17 13:11:00

biggerbud wrote:

so they have us all by the balls and there is nothing that can be done?

ok To test the speed you need to use a server dedicated from switzerland zurich or berlin germany. If there you get the full speed then you get what you did pay for.
Now to why you get way lower speeds Internet is like the auckland motorway and the connections are like riding a car on a highway.
Like i am connecting via mobile telefon my upload is for illustration purpos 1/2 a megabite. I could run a website via my phone and my connection. And if you would surf my theoretical website you would get 1/2 a mb download max and less if more people surfed my theoretical site.
So your getting your high speed only works if there highway is free of congestion and the site sends out this high speed also/////

intrade - 2021-08-08 16:49:00

biggerbud wrote:

I have an internet plan with My Republic for fiber 100/20
I only ever get 40MBs download.

So bump up to a as Fast As It Can Go plan.
Even so there are other factors that affect what speed you get at your device.
If the slowness is just with one website, it’s probably that website’s problem
Speeds may also be slower at busier times of the day, when everyone in your neighborhood is using the Internet connection, than at off hours when many people are sleeping or at work.
It’s possible your internet is fine, but your Wi-Fi—which connects you to the internet—is having signal problems

Your Internet connection is shared by all the devices in your home, so other devices on your network could be saturating your Internet connection, slowing things down for everyone else.

For example, if two people are streaming Netflix and one person is trying to download a file with BitTorrent, everyone’s experience will slow down.

lythande1 - 2021-08-09 08:17:00

I am on wireless internet now and it is even faster than ADSL.

tygertung - 2021-08-09 11:15:00

Generally it will be.. Neighbor got wireless, (4G), internet. It runs at about 140Mb/s

nice_lady - 2021-08-09 11:48:00