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21 DAY VEGAN CHALLENGE

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http://vegansociety.org.nz/tryvegan/challenge

Try it out, you could well like it!

frances1266 - 2019-11-26 19:04:00
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I lasted 2 days because I found the budget for it prohibitive.
Food is already far too expensive in this country

lilyfield - 2019-11-27 06:34:00
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No, it can be a lot cheaper without meat and dairy.

frances1266 - 2019-11-27 08:32:00
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I am vegetarien for many years. So now i would hace to replace cow milk with far dearer rice or almond milk
My cottage cheese with tofu,
Grains are a fortune at the Binn Inn and nowhere elsa available.Pulses I cannot eat because of digestive problems
Leaves me with processed foods? No, thank you.
Nuts on the whole cost more than meat per protein value
No eggs are the biggest barrier against vegan diet for me

lilyfield - 2019-11-27 09:09:00
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I am vegetarien for many years. So now i would hace to replace cow milk with far dearer rice or almond milk
My cottage cheese with tofu,
Grains are a fortune at the Binn Inn and nowhere elsa available.Pulses I cannot eat because of digestive problems
Leaves me with processed foods? No, thank you.
Nuts on the whole cost more than meat per protein value
No eggs are the biggest barrier against vegan diet for me

lilyfield - 2019-11-27 09:10:00
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Make your own oat milk, very cheap. I like soy so use a generic brand in a blue box, it has a very mild flavour. Eggs are easy to replace, egg substitutes are available, most things can be replaced. Are all pulses a problem for you?

frances1266 - 2019-11-27 09:36:00
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You can even make pavlova nowadays from chickpea brine, tastes just like the egg one.

frances1266 - 2019-11-27 13:13:00
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I value my health too much

geldof - 2019-11-27 14:02:00
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Never. And husband already has iron issues, last thing he needs is to skop haem iron.

lythande1 - 2019-11-27 15:27:00
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I havent eaten meat for around 40 years, have never taken an iron supplement or have never been anaemic.

frances1266 - 2019-11-27 16:24:00
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Neither have I.

lilyfield - 2019-11-27 20:41:00
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frances1266 wrote:

I havent eaten meat for around 40 years, have never taken an iron supplement or have never been anaemic.

Everyone is different - I have been vegetarian for 30 plus years and have to take daily iron supplements. At one point I had to have a series of iron injections. Now I take the supplements and the Doctor tests my iron levels twice a year.

magin - 2019-12-04 11:37:00
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frances1266 wrote:

I havent eaten meat for around 40 years, have never taken an iron supplement or have never been anaemic.

You must be male. If female then you never menstruated. Or failing both those things, you are either eating enough of the foods that have been fortified with iron, b12 and folic acid or not telling the whole truth.

Like geldof, I value my health way too much to follow some Seventh Day Adventist propaganda. As a 10 year vegetarian I became anaemic on the 7th year but didn't recognise the symptoms till I mentioned to my doctor my inability to get through the day without sleeping. She immediately knew I was anaemic.

I also value my time. Who wants to spend hours and hours cooking up pulses and sauces and making yucky fake milk and cheese, etc when meat, fish, eggs, seafood and dairy will provide me with excellent nutrition at a fraction of the time spent in the kitchen making vegan/vegetarian food?

And guess what. It doesn't give me cancer, despite what Colin Campbell would have you believe with his statistically corrupted research that was financed by Seventh Day Adventists and the vegan/vegetarian lobby.

Edited by buzzy110 at 11:48 am, Wed 4 Dec

buzzy110 - 2019-12-04 11:47:00
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Colin Campbell was a farmer like you are Buzzy. I have never heard he is 7th Day Adventist but dont they have much better health stats than the rest of the population in U.S.A.

frances1266 - 2019-12-04 17:51:00
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Colin Campbell was a farmer like you are Buzzy. I have never heard he is 7th Day Adventist but dont they have much better health stats than the rest of the population in U.S.A.

frances1266 - 2019-12-04 17:51:00
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I don't think Colin Campbell was a Seventh Day Adventist, it's
more that his (extremely unreliable) China Study was latched on to by various vegetarian causes including the SDA church.

For anyone who's interested in a different perspective here's a link to an essay by Chris Kresser, which has a lot of useful links.

https://chriskresser.com/rest-in-peace-china-study/

Edited by davidt4 at 7:13 pm, Wed 4 Dec

davidt4 - 2019-12-04 19:13:00
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geldof wrote:

I value my health too much

I value animals' lives and my health couldn't be better. Win/win

helenandjohn - 2019-12-04 19:32:00
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Same here helenandjohn I love animals and contrary to what buzzy says I am not a liar

frances1266 - 2019-12-04 20:04:00
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frances1266 wrote:

You can even make pavlova nowadays from chickpea brine, tastes just like the egg one.

I tested that pavlova out (I'm not vegan but family member is) and you're right, it does whip up and cook exactly like an egg pav, including the outside crust. I found the stench of the canned chickpea slime very off putting though until it mostly disappeared part way through cooking. As a traditional pav baker of fifty years I did notice a difference in the inside texture and taste overall, and wouldn't make it again - but I guess it would be an ok substitute for someone who had gone vegan and really missed their pav.

Edited by kaddiew at 9:05 am, Thu 5 Dec

kaddiew - 2019-12-05 08:57:00
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I believe that white beans are better than chickpeas although I tried it last Christmas and it tasted just like the egg white one to me.

Edited by frances1266 at 9:06 am, Thu 5 Dec

frances1266 - 2019-12-05 09:05:00
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frances1266 wrote:

I believe that white beans are better than chickpeas although I tried it last Christmas and it tasted just like the egg white one to me.

I recently saw a cooking show where a contestant made a chickpea meringue, and one judge commented that he could still taste chickpea. Maybe it's just down to individual taste. If I ever make one again, will try the white bean brine; thanks.

kaddiew - 2019-12-05 12:04:00
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This is from the UK vegan site and has many recipes for a vegan sub for eggs. https://www.vegansociety.com/whats-new/blog/20-amazing-thing
s-you-can-do-aquafaba

frances1266 - 2019-12-05 12:17:00
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The member deleted this message.

frances1266 - 2019-12-06 07:54:00
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helenandjohn wrote:

I value animals' lives and my health couldn't be better. Win/win

Where do you keep the animals whose lives you have saved?

kacy5 - 2019-12-06 10:20:00
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https://nutritionstudies.org/minger-critique/

self explanatory

frances1266 - 2019-12-08 13:48:00
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frances1266 wrote:

You can even make pavlova nowadays from chickpea brine, tastes just like the egg one.

No. No it doesn’t.

flancrest - 2019-12-08 14:08:00
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Well the one I tried did, was it made correctly?

frances1266 - 2019-12-08 15:37:00
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bumping

frances1266 - 2020-01-15 08:50:00
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frances1266 wrote:

Well the one I tried did, was it made correctly?

Intrigued how you would know what an egg pav tastes like.

buzzy110 - 2020-01-15 18:31:00
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I was vegetarian for many years I am sorry to say.

frances1266 - 2020-01-16 14:52:00
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lythande1 wrote:

Never. And husband already has iron issues, last thing he needs is to skop haem iron.

It's the same in our household. Besides, we like meat.

mak47 - 2020-01-16 14:58:00
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