You regulars are amazing!
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| 1 | I look in here about three times a week and always check any threads about people who might be my rellies, and sometimes I manage to offer something useful, but most of all I wonder if you wonderful people might be able to find answers for me where I got stuck -- prior to registration in the UK. I also note that while some opening-posters gush about their enthusiasm and gratitude for all the amazing stuff you find for them, some OPs barely manage to say something like, "Thank you very much." :-( But that's life, isn't it? I'm a Bennett and got stuck just above William Bennett born about 1801 and died 13 July 1843 in Northfleet, Kent, where he owned a farm. His wife was Ellen Solomon. Prior to the farm he was a butcher in Gravesend, which I presume meant owned a shop, but I could be wrong. His surviving sons inherited a few hundred pounds and emigrated to NZ, Australia and the USA. There was a family tomb at Milton-Next-Gravesend and I have the inscriptions that were on it before it was apparently demolished about the 1920s. Because that William Bennett might have owned a butcher's shop and later a farm, I thought there might be an obituary but couldn't find one back in the pre-internet days (1980s - 90s) His father was William Bennett (born 27 Jan 1770 and also died young on 23 March 1817 aged 46) and mother Sarah Solomon who died 11 May 1811 aged 38. But again, no obituaries as far as my researches went. They were buried in the same family tomb Strangely, while that lot died young, many of their Aussie and NZ descendants lived well into their 80s and 90s, which I hope to do too. I'm 70. So I wonder if there was some particular health problem in Kent that shortened their lives. Smoking might have killed the males, but I just don't know. There was, though, one spectacularly good find here in NZ. Two caches of letters to and from Ellen Bennett (nee Solomon, 1798-1870) and some of her children and grandchildren from 20 July 1862 onwards into the 1900s. Those letters (which are all typed up in my computer) are far better to have than just names, dates and places of earlier ancestors. But I'd still like to find them! I've been an invalid since 1989 though am better off now on Super, but I have to spend big bucks on fixing up my dilapidated house. Want to join Ancestry where I might get results, but can't yet afford it. Apparently there's quite a big tree of my mother's London ancestors (Robson and Card surnames) at Ancestry, which I originally provided, free, in the 1990s to the rellie who posted it there. Don't do lots of digging yet -- I can probably provide some more clues. Many more details of the two families are at Family Search, but someone there has amalgamated the two William Bennetts above into one, born 1770 and died 1843. Edited by dbb at 3:49 am, Thu 7 Nov dbb - 2019-11-07 03:40:00 |
| 2 | Actually, if you want to see the names and dates I've posted at Family Search, search for my dad, John Chapman Bennett 1908-1998 and mother, Beth Clyde (Betty) Treseder 1912-1987. Her Treseder/Tressidder tree goes back so far that I think some name-collectors might have made it up. They have lower-class women marrying Knights of the Realm in the 1600s. Etc. But you never know. It MIGHT be accurate, eh? !! ;-) Edited by dbb at 4:07 am, Thu 7 Nov dbb - 2019-11-07 04:03:00 |
| 3 | Well, trees back to the 1600s aren't particularly old as there is still much legitimate documentation available for a century before that and many of us have old trees, but your have to know the who/what/where to be able to validate it with a degree of reality if it still exists, as opposed to living in I Wish Land and hoping for the best because it looks good lol :-) If you can scrape up enough for one month of paid Ancestry, you might find the things you are missing, you don't have to sub a whole 6 months or year to use it. I only ever buy a month at a time when it's either on special or I want to continue some strand I have been chasing. You can bolster that with a month of paid up Find My Past later (I do that in between Ancestry subs), or if able to use a public Library with it available, you can use it in full there. By using Ancestry, FMP and Family Search all as a set of inter-related database tools, you will have access to much of the valid BDM and census/Will/Probate documentation there as well as the rest of their collections but you can also use other databases such as UK National Archives, or Wales or Irish ones or the many other resources like the 1642 Protestation records etc to find info that isn't BDM in origin to bolster family info. Other community trees are pinch of salt material and no better than those on Ancestry et al, so stick with the databases for validating info, grab actual document images whenever you can and avoid transcripts unless there is nothing else to use. Edited by morticia at 11:31 am, Thu 7 Nov morticia - 2019-11-07 11:24:00 |
| 4 | 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census h28skipper - 2019-11-07 18:18:00 |
| 5 | 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census h28skipper - 2019-11-07 18:22:00 |
| 6 | Haven't found them in Gravesend 1841 yet, but I think this may be the two girls at St Johns School Sevenoaks which is about 35 kms to Gravesend h28skipper - 2019-11-07 18:26:00 |
| 7 | Found these two articles This one doesn't state what Mr Bennett's premises were, but I take it to be a place of business h28skipper - 2019-11-07 18:29:00 |
| 8 | Ah, thank you! You're not only amazing but marvellous too! Morticia: I'll keep your details about those subscriptions which I think you've previously written for other posters. A great money-saving idea. Have also taken advantage of Find My Past free weekends which I've learned of here. H28skipper: Thank you too. One of my Dad's sisters found those 1851 census details, probably at her local LDS centre in the 1980s, but didn't share them very well, so now I have a better, more-detailed version. I think it was the Kentish Mercury I paid for staff of Gravesend library to search for an obituary or other details and had no luck, so you've found some good new stuff. Those two crimes are worth having. Five Pounds in 1840 would have been a large reward. I know that William Bennett c1801 to 1843 was butcher of High Street, Gravesend, and all of his and Ellen's children were born in High Street. The 5th Ann, 8th Emily, 9th James and 10th George all died very young 1831 to 1838. The 4th child, Ellen (last in reply #6) is the one I have the least details about:-- Her hubby wrote one of the letters I have and wrote about "Dear Nelly" and I found some of their descendants in the USA, but they too had none of the missing marriage, death and burial details. Her father, William Bennett, is only born c1801 because I found two William Bennetts with wife Sarah in Kent who each had a son William born around that time, so can't tell which are his parents. Edited by dbb at 9:21 pm, Thu 7 Nov dbb - 2019-11-07 21:11:00 |
| 9 | The tombstone details in case they are useful. I don't know the actual source, if anyone can find that. Googling the details didn't help. In 1912, someone recorded for posterity the following inscriptions SACRED TO THE MEMORY OF ALSO JOHN ALSO LIKEWISE JOSEPH VINDIN ANN ALSO ALSO ALSO SACRED TO THE MEMORY OF ALSO IN LOVING MEMORY OF Edited by dbb at 9:40 pm, Thu 7 Nov dbb - 2019-11-07 21:38:00 |
