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Rose Maria Forester Low

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Rose Maria Forester Low.B.1842, D 1915 aged73.Buried at Old Stafford cemetery,N.Z..
I believe she is the wife of Thomas Low,b.1830 Birkshire, England,child of George Low and Elizabeth (nee Wentworth).
She had among her children a daughter called Rosa and she herself was often called Rosa instead of Rose as is in BDM NZ
and I have them sorted apart from three children that dont seem to be reg. anywhere.
Her husband was in west coast by 1867 and may have been since 1865?
I had noted "nee Garratt"on the end of her name but not sure where I got that from. Also I had noted a marriage in Victoria in 1871 and now cant find anything about that either.
Thomas would have been 41 yrs then so possibly been married prior. I would love to know more about her and possibly the whereabouts of Thomas. (after the England1851 census untill he showed up on west coast NZ)

lulu.. - 2019-08-09 18:39:00
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West Coast Times 29 July 1904
Another of the fast diminishing band of 1865 pioneers is gone, Mr Thomas Low, of Stafford, having passed away, at his residence, Stafford, at 2 o'clock yesterday afternoon. The deceased, who was in business at Stafford from its earliest days was well known and highly respected. He was a native of England and was in his 74th year. His widow and family of 2 daughters and one son will have the sympathy of many friends in their bereavement.

vicki610 - 2019-08-09 19:40:00
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vicki610 wrote:

West Coast Times 29 July 1904
Another of the fast diminishing band of 1865 pioneers is gone, Mr Thomas Low, of Stafford, having passed away, at his residence, Stafford, at 2 o'clock yesterday afternoon. The deceased, who was in business at Stafford from its earliest days was well known and highly respected. He was a native of England and was in his 74th year. His widow and family of 2 daughters and one son will have the sympathy of many friends in their bereavement.

Yes, I have printed this earlier plus all the newspaper items re. the other Low deathes Unfortunatly it hasnt helped me with my problem.

lulu.. - 2019-08-09 19:50:00
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Thomas's Probate is online
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2VC8-69K

vicki610 - 2019-08-09 20:08:00
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vicki610 wrote:

Thomas's Probate is online
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2VC8-69K

Thank you so much Vicki. I have now printed it. Means a lot to me to see my family members there.

lulu.. - 2019-08-09 20:30:00
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West Coast Times, 1 June 1915
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WCT19150601.2.2
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Mrs Low … resident of Stafford for about 45 years … native of England … Prior to coming to New Zealand she was resident in Victoria …

Similar in Grey River Argus, 1 June 1915.

stock - 2019-08-09 21:08:00
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Likely child, NZ BDM:
1871/25913 Low Elizabeth; Rosa; Thomas (2/12/1870)

stock - 2019-08-09 21:11:00
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Two others:
1872/26303 Low Rosa, Rosa, Thomas
1874/44614 Low, NR, Rose, Thomas

stock - 2019-08-09 22:04:00
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lulu.. wrote:


and I have them sorted apart from three children that dont seem to be reg. anywhere.


West Coast Times, Issue 2476, 7 March 1877
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WCT18770307.2.6

Birth of a son 6 March 1877. But not located BDM.

stock - 2019-08-09 22:32:00
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Thomas Low had a brother James:
West Coast Times, Issue 9999, 28 December 1894
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WCT18941228.2.9
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And
West Coast Times, Issue 1001, 31 December 1894
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WCT18941231.2.5

Edited by stock at 10:37 pm, Fri 9 Aug

stock - 2019-08-09 22:33:00
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Death of son Isaac age 21 [=born about 1880]
West Coast Times, Issue 12040, 14 October 1901
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WCT19011014.2.5

Assume the father Thomas Low is your family.

Similar Grey River Argus 15 October 1901

Edited by stock at 10:41 pm, Fri 9 Aug

stock - 2019-08-09 22:40:00
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Thank you so much Stock, Yes Thomas and Rose(Rosa) are my 2X G grandparents.
Sorry, I should have said I know of all their children but cant find reg births for 3.
BDM NZ have Elizabeth b.1871, Rosa b.1872 ,and N.R. (b.1877. d.aged 11 hrs).
But not George b.1873,Isaac b.1878,or Thomas W.Low b.1876. I am surprised by this but maybe they were born elsewhere. I am excited to see you point out that Thomas's wife Rosa was from Victoria The scrap of paper I have about the marriage in Victoria and the ?re Garratt surname means something. I dont remember where I got it from but I feel its important now. Have been searching but cant find out anything.

lulu.. - 2019-08-09 23:46:00
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Stock, Have re read your post and note Rosa was resident in Victoria so I realise she may have been there, got married there, but been born in another country. I still have a big puzzle dont I.

lulu.. - 2019-08-09 23:54:00
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Stock,so very sorry,I was so tired last night I didnt take in the fact that Rosa DID come from England to Victoria then NZ. Certainly helps but not sure of her surname. Was she previously married,Was Forester a middle name,Where did the name Garratt fit? Wish I could remember where I found the mystery Victoria marriage previously.

lulu.. - 2019-08-10 10:07:00
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This looks like George. Probably others have been recorded as similar names too, but I can't find Isaac or Thomas.

1873/40259 Law George Rosa Thomas

raffella - 2019-08-10 10:45:00
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Two entries for the marriage
Name: Thomas Low
Gender: Male
Marriage Registration Year: 1871
Marriage Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Spouse: Rosa Garratt
Reference Number: 685

Name: Thomas Low
Spouse Name: Rosa Garratt
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Number: 685x1871

h28skipper - 2019-08-10 10:55:00
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Record (Emerald Hill, Vic. : 1868 - 1872) Thu 10 Feb 1870 Page 4
Family Notices
LOWE—GARRATT.—On the 3rd inst., at Park-
street, Emerald Hill, by the Rev. D. Macdonald,
Mr. Thomas Lowe, to Rosa, second daughter of
Arthur Garratt, Esq., England.

h28skipper - 2019-08-10 11:09:00
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Found this birth. The year is a little out when taken from burial record
Births Dec 1839
Garratt Rosa Maria Islington 3 178

And then came across this baptism for what could be Rosa's older sister. Note the mother's name is Rosa. Couldn't immediately see a baptism for Rosa but will scroll back through them. As there was several years between her birth and baptism I did wonder whether they were baptised together - but no.
First name(s) Laura Eliza
Last name Garratt
Birth year 1838
Birth date 29 Jun 1838
Baptism year 1854
Baptism date 28 Jun 1854
Church St John the Evangelist
Parish Islington
Diocese Westminster
Deanery Islington
Ecclesiastical province Westminster
Father's first name(s) Arthur
Father's last name Garratt
Mother's first name(s) Rosa
Mother's last name Davis
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive
Westminster Archdiocesan Archives
Document type Baptisms
Records year range 1851-1855
Page 142
Record set England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

h28skipper - 2019-08-10 11:43:00
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www.gro.gov.uk/gro
GARRATT, ROSA MARIA mother's maiden name DAVIS
GRO Reference: 1839 December Quarter in THE ISLINGTON DISTRICT Volume 03 Page 178

stock - 2019-08-10 11:51:00
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Ancestry has a Church of England baptism record .

Name: Rosa Maria Forrester Garratt
Gender Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1840
Baptism Place Lambeth St Mary, Lambeth, England
Father Arthur Garratt
Mother Rose Ann Garratt
Register Type: Parish Registers

The image adds born 31 August 1839; address Commerce Row; father is an umbrella maker.

Edited by stock at 11:59 am, Sat 10 Aug

stock - 2019-08-10 11:57:00
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www.freebmd.org.uk
Marriages Sep quarter 1837

GARRATT Arthur
St.Mary Newington volume 4 page 304

Among other names on the same page of the register:
DAVIS Rose Ann
St.Mary, Newington volume 4 page 304

stock - 2019-08-10 12:03:00
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London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Arthur Garratt
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date 23 Sep 1837
Marriage Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark, England
Father: Robert Garratt
Spouse: Rose Ann Davis
Register Type: Parish Register

Image adds groom is an umbrella manufacturer, both full age, he of 4 Surrey Street, she of 19 Percival Street St James Clerkenwell, his father Robert is deceased, her father John Davis is a seal & medal engraver, witnesses John Davis & Wm Williams, JG Webster offg min.

Wm Williams was a witness for the 3 other marriages on the same page of the register.

Edited by stock at 12:21 pm, Sat 10 Aug

stock - 2019-08-10 12:17:00
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A later Thomas? Actual birth date 02/01/1884

1884/347 Lowe Thomas Albert Rosina Thomas

raffella - 2019-08-10 12:50:00
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raffella wrote:

A later Thomas? Actual birth date 02/01/1884

1884/347 Lowe Thomas Albert Rosina Thomas

From a different family but thanks.

lulu.. - 2019-08-10 14:43:00
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Thanks so very,very much to everyone for your fantastic help ! I see names that have been carried on thru generations now....... Rose goes right down to my Great Grandaughter. I had no idea it went back so far. Had wondered about the name Arthur and now makes sense.
With both yr 1870 ,plus 1871, as marriage year (as in post 16) for Thomas Low and Rosa Garratt which should I quote if I apply for marriage printout and would printout give any info than you awesome folk have supplied? I assume yr 1870 as in post17 is what would be best?
I find in England census 1851 that ages of Arthur Garratt m. Rose Ann Davis indicate they were 19 and 17 years old when married tho post 22 indicates they were of full age. Am I missing something?
I still havnt found when Thomas Low or Rosa Garratt left England for Victoria or when they left Victoria as a married couple for NZ. Again thank you, I feel very grateful for your help.

lulu.. - 2019-08-10 15:16:00
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