Person who doesnt want to be found
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| 1 | Have you ever come across someone who doesnt want to be found? All the information you have is inconclusive. Some Family know but are hiding a secret maybe and wont tell you anything. 1:I have a birth surname 4: Have found two people with the same name but difff birth dates and deaths. Different mother surnames. I have been going around and around circles for 3-4 years with this person in my tree. It is driving me nuts and i am lost and wonder if I should give up. I have asked for help before and have received some information from people but when I have followed up and contacted other tree owners it has been a dead end. bre2 - 2019-04-26 16:27:00 |
| 2 | have you looked at Probates? crab2 - 2019-04-26 19:11:00 |
| 3 | Do the registration districts, for births and deaths, define which one is likely? Edited by amasser at 10:06 am, Sat 27 Apr amasser - 2019-04-27 10:05:00 |
| 4 | Do you want to post a name so we can help? carbs51 - 2019-04-27 11:19:00 |
| 5 | Honestly, I am so confused by this. I will dig out the info I have. Carbs51 - you have provided information before but it has led me to others with the same people in their tree saying my person is someone different. bre2 - 2019-04-27 18:53:00 |
| 6 | Cynthia Avis Elwick b 1920 d 2008 - assuming parents are Arthur Elwick and Agnes nee REEVE. Married George Frederick Feasey but according to the marriage cert her maiden name was Winspear with father George WInspear died 1938, eng lorrry driver. Cynthia and George were Married in 1939 - I have a hard copy of marriage cert - Witness on marriage cert is Kate Buckle and Ethel Kate Feasey. She then Marries John Henry Tennant 1951. Cynthias childrens births are found under Elwick, Feasey,winspear & tennant . Im sorry if I have confused you as im confused myself. bre2 - 2019-04-28 13:48:00 |
| 7 | it would have been better to have gotten a printout rather than the Certificate as it has more information and cheaper.....Does it say where Cynthia was born? Just found she was born in UK I am going to say that as it says on the Marriage her father is George Winspear then Elwick is not her maiden name but Winspear is, do you have her marriage to Tennant to see if the parents names are the same as what is on her marriage to Feasey Edited by crab2 at 3:02 pm, Sun 28 Apr crab2 - 2019-04-28 14:53:00 |
| 8 | this is the 1939 Register for Cynthia Tennant (fearcy) and it has a different birth year to what you have..... Tennant (Fearcy) Household (7 People) Start free family tree View original image Print crab2 - 2019-04-28 15:06:00 |
| 9 | I think I have it sorted, your thinking that Cynthia Avis Elwick and Cynthia Avis Winspear are the same person and it appears they are 2 different people this is the baptism for Cynthia Avis Elwick First name(s) Cynthia Avis Edited by crab2 at 3:23 pm, Sun 28 Apr crab2 - 2019-04-28 15:13:00 |
| 10 | this looks like Cynthia Avis Tennant's death .... Name: Cynthia Avis Tennant crab2 - 2019-04-28 15:28:00 |
| 11 | crab2 wrote:
No, I havent got the Tennant marriage cert. Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Just to add this is my uncles births with mothers name as Ellwick. The other siblings have the following. Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page bre2 - 2019-04-28 21:18:00 |
| 12 | The death is correct. I cant find anything under Winspear. bre2 - 2019-04-28 21:34:00 |
| 13 | ok, might need to get the Tennant marriage to compare the fathers names also try under Winsper I'll come back later as doing my housework while I have no work until tonight crab2 - 2019-04-29 10:11:00 |
| 14 | Can anyone explain the following: Name: Cynthia A Feasey Name: Cynthia A Feasey Why would this be registered in different parts of the country ? One in 1944 and one in 1951.? The 1939 Census has her married to John Tennant but that is when she married George Feasey. Name: Cynthia A Feasey Name: Cynthia A Winspear bre2 - 2019-05-03 11:18:00 |
| 15 | John Henry Tennant was married to Amy Shepherd in 1939 with Amy dying in 1942. NameJohn H TennantGenderMaleMarital StatusMarriedBirth Date14 Jan 1910Residence Year1939Address25Residence PlaceBillingham, Durham, EnglandOccupationPainterSchedu- bre2 - 2019-05-03 11:31:00 |
| 16 | The 1939 "census" was actually a Registration document which was subsequently updated as circumstances changed. You will often see that there are crossings out and amendments on the original image. mungojerrie - 2019-05-03 12:56:00 |
| 17 | 29 September 1939 hymac - 2019-05-03 13:27:00 |
| 18 | As mungojerrie points out, corrections or updates could be added to the 1939 register entries at a later date. In Cynthia Feasey’s case, in Sept 1939 she was recorded on the register as Cynthia A Feasey (married), with a date of birth of 10 Nov 1919. On two separate occasions after Sept 1939, amendments were made to her entry in the 1939 register. 1. A different date of birth was added in pencil "10 Nov 15" with a reference written alongside that looks like "JFA 10/6/42”. 2. Her surname Feasey was crossed out and “Tennant” written above. A reference that looks like “15544 ?C JCOM” was written alongside. Maybe George Feasey was the father of Pauline and John who were born in 1946 & 1948, but they were adopted by John H Tennant after he married their mother Cynthia in 1951. That would explain why Pauline and John's births appear to be registered twice, with the surname Feasey and also with the surname Tennant. The children born between 1951-1954 (Stephen, Cynthia and Margaret) only have the surname Tennant on their birth registrations which indicates John H Tennant is their birth father. With all five birth registrations the mother’s maiden name is Winspear. To me it looks like Pauline and John are half-siblings of Stephen, Cynthia and Margaret. 1951 marriage for Cynthia Feasey/Winspear and John H Tennant: ed65 - 2019-05-03 14:14:00 |
| 19 | bre2 wrote:
OP - this Brian Feasey whose birth was reg'd in Howden, Yorkshire in 1944 is definitely your uncle? So this is another instance where a Feasey birth was also registered (separately) with the surname Tennant. But in this case the maiden name of Brian's mother is Ellwick so is this a completely different Cynthia, and NOT the Cynthia Winspear who married George Feasey in 1939, and then John H Tennant in 1951? It's possible the recording of the mother's maiden name as Ellwick in 1944 was a mistake, and it should have been Winspear? If that's what happened, Brian would be the elder brother of Pauline and John Feasey, and John H Tennant then adopted all three children after he married Cynthia Feasey nee Winspear in 1951. At which point all three children's birth records were amended with their adopted father's surname added. It's possible that even then the error made with Cynthia's maiden name back in 1944 was never picked up? Brian's birth was registered in a different part of Yorkshire to the other five children. It was wartime though so maybe George Feasey was serving in the armed forces, and Cynthia was lodging elsewhere. Why the move from Buckinghamshire in 1939 to Yorkshire in the 1940s? Did Cynthia or George have family in the north? If George Feasey was away for most of WW2 that would explain why he and Cynthia didn't have any children until the mid 1940s. I can't find a marriage between an Ellwick/Elwick and a Tennant (or a Feasey). Apart from Brian's birth in 1944, there no further births reg'd where the surname isTennant or Feasey, and the mother's maiden name is Ellwick/Elwick. There was a Cynthia A Elwick who married Richard Duke in Yorkshire in 1942 but she died in Yorkshire in 1957, aged 35 (death reg'd with the name Cynthia A Duke). I'm starting to wonder if all this confusion is simply a result of a mistake that was made when the birth of the OP's uncle was registered in 1944. OP, if you have the birth certificate for whichever of your parents is a sibling of Brian Feasey/Tennant, what are the parents names recorded as? ed65 - 2019-05-03 15:19:00 |
| 20 | bre2 wrote:
I can't help myself!! Here's another theory ;-) Cynthia Feasey (nee Winspear) married John H Tennant TWICE. I see that first marriage in 1944 was reg'd in the same district as the birth of the OP's uncle Brian. The second marriage from 1951 was reg'd in the same district that the five other Feasey/Tennant births were reg'd in, between 1946-1954. Perhaps Cynthia was still legally married to George Feasey in 1944, so that 1st marriage to John Tennant 'didn't count' (!!) and that's why she and John had to marry again in 1951. I wonder what her marital status is on that 1951 marriage certificate? Possibly Cynthia Feasey had been in a relationship with John Tennant since at least 1943? Maybe Cynthia and John registered the eldest three children's births with the surname Tennant but then it was discovered their marriage in 1944 wasn't legal. If Cynthia was still married to George, maybe in the eyes of the law the three eldest children born to Cynthia (but fathered by John) were legally Feaseys? So the surname on their birth reg'ns may have been changed from Tennant to Feasey, and not the other way around. Is there any indication that Cynthia and George Feasey divorced before 1951, at which point she was then free to marry John Tennant (again)? Cynthia's three youngest children were all born after that 2nd marriage so were legally Tennants, and that's why they only have that surname on their birth registrations. Edited by ed65 at 4:56 pm, Fri 3 May ed65 - 2019-05-03 16:55:00 |
| 21 | I wonder if George Feasey's military file might shed some light on his family situation? I think they list the spouse and children. Perhaps this is him... Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942 There's an image of the above record on Find My Past. In the last column headed "Transfers to other Corps or cause of becoming non-effective and record of re-enlistment (if any) (Including date)" someone has written "2 4 46 2T" and underneath "Trans to RASC 19.11.51". Edited by ed65 at 5:10 pm, Fri 3 May ed65 - 2019-05-03 17:09:00 |
| 22 | Did George Frederick Feasey also remarry in 1951? This marriage below was reg'd in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, which is the same district where George and Cynthia's marriage was reg'd in 1939. England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 It looks like George Frederick Feasey may have been from the Buckinghamshire/Oxfordshire area. The birth of a George F Feasey was reg'd in Thame, Oxfordshire in the Dec Q of 1916. Thame is only 10 miles from Aylesbury. ed65 - 2019-05-03 17:33:00 |
| 23 | Ed65 - Thank you for all your info. Its a lot to digest. Uncle Brian has birth cert with John tennant as dad. When he questioned the family it was shut down quick smart. He said his mam was a woman of mystery. Apparently ELLWICK is a county of Durham so possibly it was put down incorrectly as cynthias maiden name. It doesnt explain who Cynthias family are. I cant find any birth for her under winspear or anything else only on marriage cert that has her dad as George winspear deceased at time of her marriage. bre2 - 2019-05-03 17:51:00 |
| 24 | Yes, it is believed George Feasey married Sylvia Miller. bre2 - 2019-05-03 17:52:00 |
