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About a woman who cared for my father after his mother died in 1907. He was only three years old and was taken into the home of his father's brother. His aunt was born Ann McArthur, and her daughter, also Ann, told me that Ann McArthur was the first cousin of US General Duncan McArthur. The family did not make much of it so . . .

I wondered if this was just a family myth, but am now interested in finding out what I can. Please can anyone help?

From my notes:-
Arthur McArthur Snr was a Scottish politician/jurist. He must have had at least two sons, one being the father of our Ann McArthur (b1855) and the other Arthur McArthur II, father of General Duncan McArthur.

Dictionaries show that Arthur II become also became a General in the Southern US, and he married southerner Mary Pinkney Hardy. They had 3 sons, at least one being born in Little Rock, Arkansas:-

Arthur III (b 1 August 1876)
Malcolm (b 17 October 1878, died 1880)
Douglas (b 26 January 1880)

Ann McArthur was born in 1855, but I do not know her parents' names, or where she was born. Since her name was McArthur, her father must have been the son of the Scottish politician/jurist as well. I think Ann must have been Scottish by birth. She married in New Zealand in 1894 and lived with her husband at Waikaia plains Station in Southland until 1925. Ann had three daughters, with two of them, Ann and Catherine Mary being named for her family. Similarly three of her five sons appear to have names from her family - Duncan, Ian Allan, and Alexander.

Where do I start? Encyclopaedias give only immediate family members. Maybe Scotland?

blackhalls - 2019-04-16 23:34:00
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I think you must mean Ann was a first cousin to Douglas McArthur as opposed to Duncan McArthur 1772 – April 29, 1839?

I found Arthur, Mary, and boys living in Arkansas 1880. Your local library will have a sub. to Ancestry to see the original census form.
You will see that Arthur II was born in Massachusetts in 1845 and it was his father who was the Scottish connection.
1880 USA census
305 Commerce Street Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA
Arthur Mc Arthur Age: 35 Birth Abt 1845 Birthplace: Massachusetts
Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Occupation: Captain
Mary Mc Arthur 27 Birth Abt 1853 Birthplace: Virginia Wife
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
Arthur Mc Arthur Age: 4 Birth Abt 1876 Birthplace: Virginia Son
Malcom Mc Arthur Age: 2 Birth Abt 1878 Birthplace: Connecticut Son
Douglas Mc Arthur Age: 6/12 Birth Abt 1880 Birthplace: Arkansas Son

Son Malcolm's burial
NAME: Malcolm MacArthur
BIRTH DATE: 17/10/1878
BIRTH PLACE: New Britain Hartford County Connecticut United States of America
DEATH DATE: 12/04/1883
DEATH PLACE: Norfolk Norfolk City Virginia United States of America
CEMETERY: Cedar Grove Cemetery
BURIAL OR CREMATION PLACE: Norfolk Norfolk City Virginia United States of America
HAS BIO?: Y
FATHER: Arthur MacArthur
MOTHER: Mary Pinkney MacArthur

h28skipper - 2019-04-17 04:36:00
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Findagrave has photo's of Arthur II (1845 - 1912) and an extensive biography.
You will see below the biography there is a list of family members. Arthur had a brother named Frank so this is could be the father of Ann.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/2376/arthur-macarthur

You will see below his record he was the husband of Sallie "Rose" Mann Winston. You need to find his marriage and children.
Frank MacArthur
BIRTH 30 Sep 1853
DEATH 1 Dec 1890 (aged 37)
BURIAL
Congressional Cemetery
Washington, District of Columbia, District Of Columbia, USA
MEMORIAL ID 10170926 · View Source
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10170926/frank-macarthur

Are you able to get Ann's death certificate? It will give a birthplace and parents although the information is not always totally correct as the informant may not have known. It should give you clues though.

I have to go to work now so can't look now for you.

h28skipper - 2019-04-17 05:01:00
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Enjoy a rummage around here
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
Search: "Mary Pinkney Hardy"
You will get several hits. General McArthur's mother too was Mary Pinkney MacArthur.

A couple of quick ones cuts:
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stock - 2019-04-17 10:41:00

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h28skipper

Yes, what a blunder I made. Of course I meant that she was first cousin to Douglas. Sorry.

Now I wil read the rest. I did not know whether to start in Scotland or begin with USA stuff.

blackhalls - 2019-04-17 18:26:00
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h28skipper

It looks as if Arthur II (b1845, Frank (b 1853) and Ann (b1855) are the same generation. Perhaps my father's cousin Ann was talking about herself being the first cousin of General Douglas McArthur and not meaning her mother Ann. That would fit but I need to do the basic searches, now that I have a place to start.

I now realise that I must get that death certificate.

Edited by blackhalls at 7:16 pm, Wed 17 Apr

blackhalls - 2019-04-17 19:15:00
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This looks like Arthur I :-

"Arthur MacArthur ~ 1815-96, Jurist and Lieutenant Governor of Wisconsin (1856-58), born in Glasgow, was author of "Education in Relation to Manual Industry" (1884) and "Biography of the English Language" (1889).17"

I found another note that Arthur Snr was born not in 1815 but 1817 and migrated to Massachusets with his widowed mother. This suggests that he was youngish so he possibly married Aurelia Belcher there - and I've ben looking in Scotland!

But I did find a sketchy note about a Duncan McArthur who might be a previous generation. So that is where the Duncan, son of Ann, could have got his name. This young NZ Duncan was terribly injured in the war. Just scraps of information but it all helps. He was, I believe, a very handsome sportsman who felt his life was ruined. I must compare his photograph with the American McArthurs.

These were just summaries of some other documents which I have not yet found.

What is the easiest way to find out about emigration to America? Such a document would show which children emigrated with him and his mother.

PS I enjoyed the clippings. The General seems to have been a bit of a playboy and somewhat arrogant.

blackhalls - 2019-04-17 22:34:00
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For USA research FamilySearch frequently has free records with images.

This looks like your family.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNW2-QCC

I've found US records on FamilySearch that don't appear to be on the paid sites, such as death/burial records which name both parents.

4pc - 2019-04-17 23:03:00
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I found my US born GG-grandmother in here:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/deathsamerican
citizenabroad/

It had some of the details from her death certificate - date, location, burial, next of kin. The second page (always look for a second page!) noted that she had arrived in NZ aged 18 and had no current connection to the US.

There might be one for Ann that could give further information.

rednicnz - 2019-04-18 12:09:00
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I'm thinking that Ann must have been from the family left in Scotland. I feel sure that my memory of hearing she was Scottish may be a valid one. The way people speak about cousins may have led me to believe that a cousin meant first cousin. As a child, I did not know what other type of cousin there could be!!!!!

I have found a young Scottish Ann but I don't think she fits. The ship and date she came to NZ are not given, so I will have to try other sources. Waiting for a certificate from BDM.

blackhalls - 2019-04-19 09:50:00
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