| 1 | I'm having my head done in by a whole lot of new people jumping on the Ancestry band wagon ( since their DNA results arrived I'm guessing) and just believing what they see or copying trees with no research.
I've been searching for a while now for my great great grandfather's mother (I have his Dad through marriage cert) and his date and place of death. All of a sudden he has a mother (who was 50 when she had him - not impossible - but not probable) and he apparently died in Paris at the age of 50 even though he came out from Jersey at age 22 with his new bride also 22 ...where they had quite a few children and I have her death noted in the Victorian BDM . Can't be right. So annoying. I don't know what to do next to find his mother and death details. mahairy - 2019-03-07 19:36:00 |
| 2 | is there any information in the Jersey census? Edited by magoo2 at 8:22 pm, Thu 7 Mar magoo2 - 2019-03-07 20:21:00 |
| 3 | Child at 50, easily believable. Died in Paris, without a death cert in another locattion also believable, especially if his children were older and his wife had died. People were more mobile than you might imagine, especially as you haven't given any dates as reference. morticia - 2019-03-07 21:14:00 |
| 4 | Have you been through everything you can lay your hands on in Victoria? Electoral rolls, newspapers, cemetery records? If you post the details here, some new eyes (and different databases!) might be able to find something for you. rednicnz - 2019-03-08 10:07:00 |
| 5 | rednicnz wrote:
Have you been through everything you can lay your hands on in Victoria? Electoral rolls, newspapers, cemetery records? If you post the details here, some new eyes (and different databases!) might be able to find something for you. I have been trying to turn over every stone. My great great grandfather's name was Francois Marie Moulin. He was born on July 8th 1850 in St Brieuc, Cotes-D'Armor, Brittany, France. His father was Etienne, a baker.
Francois married Susan Elizabeth Le Feuvre of St Ouen, Jersey, Channel Islands on 3 Aug 1872 at St Helier, Jersey. Her family are well covered - she was born in Jersey to Pierre and Marie (nee Mauger) and had several bros and sisses all of whom are easily found in the Channel Island census.
Francois and Susan emigrated to NZ on the Zealandia. They arrived at Otago on 29 Aug 1873 and set up home at Catlins River where he became a baker too. There they had three children - Francis 1874, Charles 1876 and Janet born in 1878. The last electoral roll I can find him on is in 1880. Somewhere, somehow between then and the next point in time I can find him, they moved to Melbourne. I can find a birth of a daughter Violet born in Victoria in 1892 and then the death of an Eva in 1893 - I actually think it is the same one child -either Eva Violet or the other way around... from sketchy comments from older rellies. I can order that cert if nec.
The Aussie electoral rolls seem to only commence in 1903 and I can see Susan there at various addresses from 1905 to 1921. Both her sons are mentioned in the electoral rolls Frank and Charles but there is NO sign of Francois (aka Frank Snr or Francis). He vanishes!!
Francois is a common name in France and Moulin not uncommon.
So many mistakes have always been made in some of the transcriptions - Susan Elizabeth is Susun Klizalieth and Stis'ii Elizabeth in two of the ancestry headings- no wonder I can't find him!!
What else can I tell you to help me..... I am soooo frustrated. I have been back in to all of France's info and cannot find his mother or his date of death anywhere in the world.
Someone else recently put up that his mother is Marie Gautron, but the dates and names don't work. Also... he could have died in Paris at 50 years of age, I suppose, but the little death cert on Ancestry means stuff all.... I don't know how someone calls that FACT.
The rumour is that he did do a lot of travel as a slave trader. Who knows? Not me... YET.
I would be grateful for 'new' eyes. Thank you. mahairy - 2019-03-08 22:57:00 |
| 6 | It looks as though Frank & Susan were living apart by 1893
Melbourne Directory (Sands) Image
Publication year 1893
Country Australia
Image number 1016
Moulin, Frank, 56 Beaconsfield-par, S.M.
Moulin, Mrs Susan, 2 Boundary-st south, Pt. M. h28skipper - 2019-03-09 09:53:00 |
| 7 | Does anyone know if any patient records exist for Banstead Hospital in Surrey please? I have a death certificate for Katherine Egan who died here in 1960 but do not have any information on how long she was there or if burial records are available. Many thanks. moolady - 2019-03-09 10:23:00 |
| 8 | If I got it correct, you have Susan's death from BDM.
Do you have her burial? She is buried with daughter, Janet Jenkins, and son-in-law Richard Jenkins
First name(s) Susan E
Last name Moulin
Birth year -
Death year 1924
Death date 28 Oct 1924
Cemetery Brighton General Cemetery
City Caulfield South
State Victoria
Country Australia
Image link http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/Susan-E-Moulin/1167888
7
Record set Australia Billion Graves Cemetery Index
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australasia h28skipper - 2019-03-09 10:35:00 |
| 9 | moolady wrote:
Does anyone know if any patient records exist for Banstead Hospital in Surrey please? I have a death certificate for Katherine Egan who died here in 1960 but do not have any information on how long she was there or if burial records are available. Many thanks. Could you start a new thread, please? I have an answer for you but don't want it to get mixed up with the "Banging head" Moulin thread h28skipper - 2019-03-09 10:39:00 |
| 10 | mahairy wrote:
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The rumour is that he did do a lot of travel as a slave trader. In that era, if he was slaving it would have been as a blackbirder. That would make him hard to find where shipping was concerned. Blackbirding was alive and well in the late 19th Century. The UK slave trade was long since outlawed and the plantation owners mostly reimbursed for their slaves 20 odd years before he was born, the Civil War was over and emancipation well and truly done in the Americas by the time they got to NZ. Travel back and forward between the southern and northern hemispheres wasn't terribly unusual in late 1800s/early 1900s and if he had been blackbirding, a wee trip on a ship North was nothing when the voyage time was by then so short but it's just as likely that for some reason his death isn't registered on the official database under his correct name, or maybe even registered at all. Edited by morticia at 10:42 am, Sat 9 Mar morticia - 2019-03-09 10:41:00 |
| 11 | Melbourne Directory 1897 (Sands & McDougall)
Moulin, Mrs Susan E., 209 Esplanade, Pt. M. h28skipper - 2019-03-09 11:14:00 |
| 12 | Is this Frank snr or jnr's death entry? If snr. he would have been circa 90
Name MOULIN Frank
Event Death
Parent 1's family name at birth UNKNOWN
Parent 2's given name MOULIN Frank
Registration year 1940
Registration number 7097/1940 Funeral notice doesn't mention family
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954)
Tue 30 Jul 1940 Page 1
Family Notices
MOULIN. The Friends of the late Mr. FRANK
MOULIN are respectfully informed that his
remains will be laid to rest in Melbourne Gene-
ral Cemetery, Carlton. The funeral will leave
his residence, 81 Garnet-street, West Brunswick,
THIS DAY (Tuesday), at 2 o'clock.
AUSTRAL FUNERAL SERVICES PTY. LTD..
92 Hoddle-street, Abbotsford, J5705. and Union-
road. Ascot Vale, h28skipper - 2019-03-09 11:20:00 |
| 13 | h28skipper wrote:
Is this Frank snr or jnr's death entry? If snr. he would have been circa 90
Name MOULIN Frank
Event Death
Parent 1's family name at birth UNKNOWN
Parent 2's given name MOULIN Frank
Registration year 1940
Registration number 7097/1940 Funeral notice doesn't mention family
The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954)
Tue 30 Jul 1940 Page 1
Family Notices
MOULIN. The Friends of the late Mr. FRANK
MOULIN are respectfully informed that his
remains will be laid to rest in Melbourne Gene-
ral Cemetery, Carlton. The funeral will leave
his residence, 81 Garnet-street, West Brunswick,
THIS DAY (Tuesday), at 2 o'clock.
AUSTRAL FUNERAL SERVICES PTY. LTD..
92 Hoddle-street, Abbotsford, J5705. and Union-
road. Ascot Vale, No, eliminate him
Frank Moulin
Born: 1874
Died: 28 Jul 1940
Melbourne General Cemetery
College Crescent Parkville, , Victoria Australia
Headstone Description
Georgina and her husband Frank and their son Herbert. h28skipper - 2019-03-09 11:28:00 |
| 14 | "Also... he could have died in Paris at 50 years of age, I suppose, but the little death cert on Ancestry means stuff all.... I don't know how someone calls that FACT. " What is this "little death cert" you are referring to? |
| 15 | morticia wrote:
In that era, if he was slaving it would have been as a blackbirder. That would make him hard to find where shipping was concerned. Blackbirding was alive and well in the late 19th Century. The UK slave trade was long since outlawed and the plantation owners mostly reimbursed for their slaves 20 odd years before he was born, the Civil War was over and emancipation well and truly done in the Americas by the time they got to NZ. Travel back and forward between the southern and northern hemispheres wasn't terribly unusual in late 1800s/early 1900s and if he had been blackbirding, a wee trip on a ship North was nothing when the voyage time was by then so short but it's just as likely that for some reason his death isn't registered on the official database under his correct name, or maybe even registered at all. Fantastic info. Thank you. He's going to be hard to track. mahairy - 2019-03-11 07:55:00 |
| 16 | mungojerrie wrote:
"Also.-
.. he could have died in Paris at 50 years of age, I suppose, but the little death cert on Ancestry means stuff all.... I don't know how someone calls that FACT. " It's not a death cert sorry ...just a small death notice saying. Francois Moulin (and there were many!!) Died in Paris , 2 Jan 1900, born Abt 1850, series 12 Paris 1893- 1902 mahairy - 2019-03-11 08:00:00 |
