The member deleted this message.

chefman1 - 2014-11-11 11:22:00

Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

chefman1 - 2014-11-11 11:23:00

i get blacklisted for asking that question chefman1's loss dodgy traders we can all do with out.

lol....and you can stay blacklist plus i have reported you to trademe...next time read the rules

chefman1 - 2014-11-11 11:39:00

chefman1 wrote:

[Listing #: 806124108] any-body out there like to grade this 1936 florin coin at $300.00 & a buy-now price of $3,000???

Mr Clarke would say Fine: http://www.translatelimited.com/clarkeoz_nz_grading.pdf. I'd go somewhere between F & VF.

translateltd - 2014-11-11 12:05:00

The member deleted this message.

muzz8 - 2014-11-11 12:48:00

translateltd wrote:

Mr Clarke would say Fine: http://www.translatelimited.com/clarkeoz_nz_grading.pdf. I'd go somewhere between F & VF.

I'm with you on this one Martin at F+

gammoner - 2014-11-11 14:19:00

The member deleted this message.

muzz8 - 2014-11-12 10:27:00

This message was deleted.

turretdriver - 2014-11-12 13:29:00

hey, what were those deleted posts about?

a like to see a bit of argy-bargy!!!

dtpapa - 2014-11-12 13:52:00

Trade Me wrote:

The originally quoted post has been removed.

lol...love you to turretdriver..go and read your new cat/books you might fine something in here new to read about coins...bye for now

chefman1 - 2014-11-12 13:59:00

dtpapa wrote:

hey, what were those deleted posts about?

a like to see a bit of argy-bargy!!!

why...i deleted my own post..is that ok with you??

chefman1 - 2014-11-12 14:03:00

echoriath wrote:

people who know better trying to sell a polished turd as something more than what it is.

Polished prose please: how about lustrous coprolite ?
Let us all hold back too see if we can reach the magic figure of 5000 posts.

Edited by alpha111 at 2:11 pm, Wed 12 Nov

alpha111 - 2014-11-12 14:06:00

yes I gathered you must have deleted it, but why, if you don't mind me asking?

dtpapa - 2014-11-12 15:33:00

The member deleted this message.

muzz8 - 2014-11-12 15:37:00

Yes, lets get it to 5000 before the whole thread is pulled again,

gammoner - 2014-11-12 15:38:00

Anyone have a few 1935 3d's they would like to put up for auction?

gammoner - 2014-11-12 15:43:00

The member deleted this message.

muzz8 - 2014-11-12 16:11:00

gammoner wrote:

Anyone have a few 1935 3d's they would like to put up for auction?

I've got one that "sold" a couple of weeks ago that I'll probably be relisting in a day or two ...

translateltd - 2014-11-12 16:12:00

muzz8 wrote:

Please grade this one for me--hoping for about F
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/343471787.jpg[/
quote]

I'd go Fine but Clarke is tough on these - did you check the link I posted above with the old Aust/NZ grading guide?

translateltd - 2014-11-12 16:15:00

The member deleted this message.

muzz8 - 2014-11-12 16:18:00

muzz8 wrote:

I know you will not believe me but one side looks"fine" other crown side only "vg"

The perils of seeing only one side!
Yep - now I see the obverse image the rim is starting to wear into the "teeth" at the top in particular, apart from the obvious wear to the King's features. Nothing wrong with using a split grade: VG/F, with obverse first.

Edited by translateltd at 4:22 pm, Wed 12 Nov

translateltd - 2014-11-12 16:20:00

This message was deleted.

muzz8 - 2014-11-12 16:28:00

I have a couple 1935 3d's

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/343476610.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/343476556.jpg

dtpapa - 2014-11-12 16:34:00

This message was deleted.

muzz8 - 2014-11-12 16:39:00

EF+, AU ???

dtpapa - 2014-11-12 17:16:00

Should I crack this holder open?

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/343484344.jpg

dtpapa - 2014-11-12 17:18:00

The member deleted this message.

muzz8 - 2014-11-12 17:33:00

I thought they looked higher-end but detail was a bit hard to see on one of them.

translateltd - 2014-11-12 18:38:00

This 1936 florin, which the ding-dongs at Mowbray's graded as gVF

http://www.mowbrays.co.nz/auction/images/international_numis
matic/39.jpg

was sold for $420 (not to me).

This delectable looking 1940 florin

http://www.mowbrays.co.nz/auction/images/international_numis
matic/40.jpg

sold for $625 (not to me either!)

Dumbasses should have put them up on trademe, I'd have bid more for both!!!

dtpapa - 2014-11-12 20:09:00

This message was deleted.

oldecurb - 2014-11-12 22:36:00

This message was deleted.

oldecurb - 2014-11-12 22:42:00

oldecurb wrote:

Thanks Martin. Any idea on value? In my opinion its a pretty ugly medal/medallion/whatever and I'd rather not keep it

Assume it's the aluminium one - Tony Grant's guide price is $15 if that's any help.

translateltd - 2014-11-12 23:41:00

This message was deleted.

turretdriver - 2014-11-13 00:56:00

Well, according to Toto (or was it Foreigner?), love isn't always on time. And, then, according to Nazareth, love hurts, but I gather the doctor has something to sort that out.

It's all just sunshine and lollipops around here.

echoriath - 2014-11-13 01:17:00

muzz8 wrote:

oldecurb wrote:

"unfortunately not worth anything much unless in near new condition. Average condition you could possibly get $1 or $2 each."

useful honest advice

comment from another trader

"This is not true, I have sold many things (not always coins) to people for far more than they are worth, it all comes down to percieved value by the buyer. If people bid more than something is supposedly worth, I will gladly take their money."

I say

THis i what we are up against people admitting that they are happy to rip naive traders off, and basically be dishonest

Agreed. It's always hard to separate the wheat from the chaff, whether amongst buyers or sellers, and unfortunately all sellers get tarred with the same brush when a buyer realises they've been duped. Caveat emptor does enter the equation, but I think it's also worth saying caveat venditor as well, since eventually, either individually or collectively, we all take a hit for bad sales practices.

(Apologies if I screwed up the Latin. It's not a language I actively studied.)

echoriath - 2014-11-13 01:21:00

gammoner wrote:

Anyone have a few 1935 3d's they would like to put up for auction?

Alan....2 x 1935 threepences up for sale starting at $12.00 each Listing #: 807030352

chefman1 - 2014-11-13 09:29:00

echoriath wrote:

Agreed. It's always hard to separate ..... [quote]

*It's SOMETIMES hard to separate .....

Apologies, no offence intended, as there is plenty of wheat about, but more and more chaff showing up about the place.

echoriath - 2014-11-13 12:14:00

chefman1 wrote:

Alan....2 x 1935 threepences up for sale starting at $12.00 each Listing #: 807030352

Thanks Peter, locked into watchlist now

gammoner - 2014-11-13 12:49:00

I should mention that those two 3d's have been thru my ultrasonic cleaner, and are a lot more sparkly than the photos show! I sat them on a micro fiber cloth to protect them during the cleaning, but suspect there may have been some friction between coin and cloth, although it does not seem too noticeable.

hence forth I will use this thing-a-ma-jig to protect my coins during the cleaning process!!

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/343609026.jpg

Edited by dtpapa at 1:15 pm, Thu 13 Nov

dtpapa - 2014-11-13 13:14:00

dtpapa wrote:

I should mention that those two 3d's have been thru my ultrasonic cleaner, and are a lot more sparkly than the photos show! I sat them on a micro fiber cloth to protect them during the cleaning, but suspect there may have been some friction between coin and cloth, although it does not seem too noticeable.hence forth I will use this thing-a-ma-jig to protect my coins during the cleaning process!!

Looks like they are getting the full rubber glove treatment lol.

gammoner - 2014-11-13 16:11:00

With everyone looking at 1935 3ds has anyone got one with a die crack on the kings shoulder similar to this one on the 1936 3d

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/343742833.jpg

I have seen similar on the 1933 and 1934 3d's and have always assumed it could also appear on the 1935 but I do not own one with this error

mudeki - 2014-11-14 09:28:00

This message was deleted.

maxamin - 2014-11-14 10:49:00

Awesome thanks Maxamin I have sent him an email to confirm the die crack on the reverse for me

mudeki - 2014-11-14 13:24:00

Unfortunately that 1935 does not have a die crack on the shoulder so if anyone has one I would love to know cheers

mudeki - 2014-11-14 17:50:00

This message was deleted.

oldecurb - 2014-11-14 20:00:00

oldecurb wrote:

Also interesting is that you can now pick your grade 806874845

That really is adding insult to injury - would you like your copies to look used, sir?

translateltd - 2014-11-14 20:34:00

This message was deleted.

oldecurb - 2014-11-14 21:19:00

oldecurb wrote:

Does anyone here collect milk tokens? Were any made in Dunedin?. I've never seen any for sale.

I've just started another collecting offshoot. Dunedin tokens, Most are too expensive hence the question

I sold a DN milk token on TM just about six weeks ago, so yes :-) You need Mike & Julie Carter's catalogue of NZ milk tokens (mikec12 is your man on TM).

translateltd - 2014-11-14 21:48:00

What does everyone think about all the fakes for sale at the moment?

lbillows - 2014-11-15 01:50:00

lbillows wrote:

What does everyone think about all the fakes for sale at the moment?

Disappointing, but not a lot we can do about it, unfortunately. I believe TM is looking into some options.

translateltd - 2014-11-15 09:15:00