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dtpapa wrote:

Do you have to pay the gst on overseas auctions?

If the GST is applied by an overseas auction house (e.g. in Australia), they should deduct it for overseas customers. Not all do, though. I tried asking one on-line auction house in Australia a few years ago and they didn't seem able to understand what I was on about, so I never bothered dealing with them.

translateltd - 2014-10-15 07:07:00
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translateltd - 2014-10-15 07:08:00
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Although they 'make' up for it by sending your coins in a parcel with a low declared value!!! At least, in my experience. I wonder if it is legal??

dtpapa - 2014-10-15 07:11:00
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dtpapa wrote:

Although they 'make' up for it by sending your coins in a parcel with a low declared value!!! At least, in my experience. I wonder if it is legal??

No :-)

translateltd - 2014-10-15 08:03:00
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dtpapa wrote:

When is the next Mowbray coin auction? I really want an inexpensive, but nice,1936 florin. I should have bid more. I blame Mowbray for their, very obviously now, low estimate to begin with.

I can do a nice but very definitely not inexpensive one ... still working out how best to market it as it's not something I'd want to consign via the postal/courier system.

translateltd - 2014-10-15 08:05:00
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This looks like it has a milled edge - that, plus the general style and the colouring, suggests a Chinese origin: 793332424

translateltd - 2014-10-15 16:51:00
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translateltd wrote:

This looks like it has a milled edge - that, plus the general style and the colouring, suggests a Chinese origin: 793332424

With you on that Martin. Just about to the stage now that unless I know the seller or they offer a full refund if proven to be a fake or not as described then I don't bid. If Trademe continue to allow fakes, forgeries that are not stamped to the item as such, then it will be to their own demise of coin sales on this site.

gammoner - 2014-10-15 17:30:00
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Frankly, I'm at least as troubled by the text of the auction: "Ass shown, scanned at 400dpi, so can be expanded for easier inspection,"

echoriath - 2014-10-15 18:40:00
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echoriath wrote:

Frankly, I'm at least as troubled by the text of the auction: "Ass shown, scanned at 400dpi, so can be expanded for easier inspection,"

I've heard about those office parties.

translateltd - 2014-10-15 20:28:00
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translateltd wrote:

I've heard about those office parties.

Damn.I'm going to specsavers as I sure can't see any ass in the pics

gammoner - 2014-10-15 21:59:00
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Interesting that the "1801 8 reales", "Melbourne florin" and "rare Hong Kong 10c" were all withdrawn by their sellers overnight.

translateltd - 2014-10-16 10:24:00
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Snake Oil Medical Antique Chllie Paste Rub UNOPEN
Start price: $19.50 Closes: Sun 19 Oct, 9:24 am Listing #: 792483429 .
Snake oil : an expression that has come to refer to products with questionable or unverifiable quality or benefit (quote). Now we all know what the semantic enhancement of the condition of this trader's numismatic items is due to ....

alpha111 - 2014-10-17 08:54:00
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oh dear, looks like over in the stamp forum our Dave has just been busted for selling forgeries!!

791433639

Edited by dtpapa at 7:56 am, Sat 18 Oct

dtpapa - 2014-10-18 07:54:00
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Something strange .. one of the more egregious sellers of Chinese-made fake coins listed a couple of pairs of fake sunglasses. I reported those and they were pulled within minutes. I report all the dodgy coins and ... nothing.

translateltd - 2014-10-18 12:02:00
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bid war!

790927397

dtpapa - 2014-10-18 17:34:00
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Good price for the florin but the snake oil man missed out. Also advised David of the comment on the Stamp Club on one of his listings but no response.

alpha111 - 2014-10-19 11:21:00
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alpha111 wrote:

Good price for the florin but the snake oil man missed out. Also advised David of the comment on the Stamp Club on one of his listings but no response.

Do you mean this one? 792222919
Think he may be wondering if it was all worth it .
Not so much about them being forgeries as stated by seller to him but his blurb on where he bought them lol.

gammoner - 2014-10-19 11:34:00
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bugger me!

I decided to clean my 1917 Standing Liberty (topless version!) using my ultrasonic cleaner. Now, as I have read that this might not be a good idea because the coin can vibrate against the surface of the container, so I placed the coin on a small piece of micro-fibre cloth placed inside the cleaner. Then I gave it a good ultrasound, using hot water, and grapefruit dishwash liquid.

To my consternation I have now discovered, upon inspection with a microscope with led light, that the surface of my coin has a sand-papered look (lots and lots of surface hair-lines). I suspect that this has resulted because of the coin vibrating to and fro on the surface of the micro-fibre cloth. Does this seem plausible? I will have to give myself an uppercut!!

Edited by dtpapa at 12:55 pm, Mon 20 Oct

dtpapa - 2014-10-20 12:54:00
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D'oh!!! I suppose it was in good nick as well? Too late now to advise using a munter to test on. I have read strongly contrasting opinions on ultrasonic cleaners, both from people I trust. Personally, I'd shy away from them on principle.

echoriath - 2014-10-20 15:21:00
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Hi Coin Fans,Good to see this up and away.I have a 1965 NZ 2/6 Half Crown UNC,but if appears to have 2 distinctive dots on jaw line.So perhaps an expert in coins could get back to me with what they think about that, as I have not seen any others like that at all on here..So perhaps it is a,PRESSING ERROR/ODDITY. ..??..Many Thanks..Mal.T.

wildhawke - 2014-10-20 16:27:00
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wildhawke wrote:

Hi Coin Fans,Good to see this up and away.I have a 1965 NZ 2/6 Half Crown UNC,but if appears to have 2 distinctive dots on jaw line.So perhaps an expert in coins could get back to me with what they think about that, as I have not seen any others like that at all on here..So perhaps it is a,PRESSING ERROR/ODDITY. ..??..Many Thanks..Mal.T.

Would be interesting to see a photo pse!

translateltd - 2014-10-20 17:34:00
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translateltd wrote:

Would be interesting to see a photo pse!

793693158
They look more to be a couple of indents ,but the nose line runs through the eye to the forehead, a bit more pronounced than the normal coin

gammoner - 2014-10-20 18:02:00
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Very Nice 1936 Florin you have There...Martin...good luck with the auction

chefman1 - 2014-10-20 21:41:00
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donaldo - 2014-10-20 22:51:00
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donaldo wrote:

check out 793805134 and 793805137 for nice coins !!!!!!!1


Hi Don, yes they don't seem to get any better with each relisting.

gammoner - 2014-10-20 23:40:00
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This along with another couple were also relisted, but seller has changed the price downwards on auction 796266261 in the space of 30 mins from,

1923 Peace Dollar
Closes: Mon 27 Oct, 7:01 pm
$5,000 Starting bid
$15,000 Buy Now

To a bargain $100 start and a $1000 buy now
Now I understand what deflation is all about.

gammoner - 2014-10-20 23:48:00
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donaldo - 2014-10-21 16:38:00
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gammoner wrote:

793693158
They look more to be a couple of indents ,but the nose line runs through the eye to the forehead, a bit more pronounced than the normal coin


Hi gammoner.Have just enlarged pix of this coin,keep forgetting my screen is a touch screen.the first looks like an indent,but the second is raised??You obviously know more about coins than I,curious about what you said about nose line,runs through the eye to the forehead??
So from your observation it may very well be an,"error coin"?? Perhaps??.
Many Thanks for your opinion,appreciated,will get Mal to look at this when they finally decide to discharge him from hospital..Thanking You .Deb.J

wildhawke - 2014-10-21 16:39:00
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donaldo wrote:

have just been shown an uncirculated 1934 aussie florin which is not for resale at present--and bought on trade me !!!

One of the Chinese $12 ones? They're pretty convincing.

translateltd - 2014-10-21 16:52:00
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Poor guy @ 796084402 , I was going to ask if he had original proof of purchase, (It should have been closer to US$100 than $2300 I would have thought) but would overseas buyers still be able to get refunded?

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/coin_scams.html

Edited by martinhb at 5:04 pm, Tue 21 Oct

martinhb - 2014-10-21 16:55:00
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martinhb wrote:

Poor guy @ 796084402 , I was going to ask if he had original proof of purchase, (It should have been closer to US$100 than $2300 I would have thought) but would overseas buyers still be able to get refunded?

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/coin_scams.html[
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The statute of limitations may have run out by now, but you never know.

translateltd - 2014-10-21 17:22:00
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translateltd wrote:

One of the Chinese $12 ones? They're pretty convincing.

Listing #: 790002351

chefman1 - 2014-10-21 17:27:00
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muzz8 - 2014-10-21 18:48:00
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oldecurb - 2014-10-21 22:34:00
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muzz8 - 2014-10-22 07:26:00
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oldecurb wrote:

If it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck its often a goose!

Or a Peking duck in these cases, perhaps?

translateltd - 2014-10-22 07:27:00
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muzz8 - 2014-10-22 08:41:00
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muzz8 wrote:

actually to be PC you now call it Beijing duck--hehe

Yup, though the only PC I try to have anything to do with is the one I'm typing on.

translateltd - 2014-10-22 08:53:00
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muzz8 - 2014-10-22 10:09:00
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translateltd wrote:

Yup, though the only PC I try to have anything to do with is the one I'm typing on.


Yes, better than Phoney Cr*p

gammoner - 2014-10-22 10:11:00
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muzz8 - 2014-10-22 10:12:00
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muzz8 wrote:


The real scary thing is that this "souveneir" looks very close to being accurate-size is ok- weight is ok- colour is sliughtly wrong and it has the reported 4-5 minor flaws-very dangerous!!!


You can buy a silver testing solution for aprox $7 but involves a filing of the test piece to go through the outer surface to get an accurate result.Otherwise you can use a spectrometer ,(non invasive test ) which will give you the makeup of all the elements and % of each in your test piece. Send it to me and I will do it for free.

gammoner - 2014-10-22 10:15:00
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muzz8 wrote:


The real scary thing is that this "souveneir" looks very close to being accurate-size is ok- weight is ok- colour is slightly wrong and it has the reported 4-5 minor flaws-very dangerous!!!

It's one of the best quality knock-offs I've seen - you have to look close at the detail, unlike many others which are pretty obvious copies.

translateltd - 2014-10-22 10:19:00
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translateltd wrote:

It's one of the best quality knock-offs I've seen - you have to look close at the detail, unlike many others which are pretty obvious copies.

If TM are going to allow these under the heading, Souvenir, Copy etc then they should have them confined to a new, Fake, Copyright infringement, and forgeries category instead.

gammoner - 2014-10-22 10:28:00
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muzz8 - 2014-10-22 12:11:00
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muzz8 wrote:

address please


Can't give out in the message boards. You can contact Arna or Malcolm (one of your TM sellers ) from hosnz . I will let them know you are asking for a delivery address for me to send your coin for testing. Otherwise there is another 20 or so traders we have both have in common and you could do the same through them. All the best,Alan

gammoner - 2014-10-22 12:41:00
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donaldo - 2014-10-22 16:03:00
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donaldo wrote:

check out 793805134 and 793805137 for nice coins !!!!!!!1


Hi Donaldo, You BLACKLISTED ME SOME YEARS BACK,DUE TO THE TYPE OF QUESTION I ASKED ABOUT ONE OF MY COINS.
You were not there to assess others folks coins.wow what a shock result that was from you,Guess you got outa bed on the wrong side perhaps that day.Cheers...
Now after all this time I have missed out on purchasing of you,and have purchased of ones that have purchased from you.Rather silly don't you think,after all I'm a harmless old chap,at the best of times...So about time that was lifted off me.YES??...Regards..Mal.T...

wildhawke - 2014-10-22 16:08:00
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donaldo - 2014-10-22 16:43:00
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