THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 4251 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. translateltd - 2014-07-29 23:08:00 |
| 4252 | justinian1 wrote:
Interesting question - not sure what its legal status would be at that point. translateltd - 2014-07-29 23:09:00 |
| 4253 | Bula from Pacific harbour here in Fiji. Still waiting to get out fishing as weather not the best, Only had to use $4.70 in coin for a 6 minute taxi ride for three from Daikoko Japanese Eating house to the Royal Suva Yacht Club for a few afternoon liquid refreshments. gammoner - 2014-07-29 23:43:00 |
| 4254 | gammoner wrote:
Envy :-) Pretty much the only eatery I know in Suva is the Hare Krishna place that's more-or-less opposite the Reserve Bank. Nice meals, and cheap! translateltd - 2014-07-31 09:21:00 |
| 4255 | A few times recently I have seen an auction bid up to quite a high price, when the exact same item is available as a buy-now at a much cheaper price! dtpapa - 2014-07-31 10:53:00 |
| 4256 | translateltd wrote:
Doing the bowling club for lunch today as weather still crap.Golf yesterday but the Red wines, JDs ,Appleton Rum are all taking a big hit. Will check out gold sellers this afternoon. gammoner - 2014-07-31 10:58:00 |
| 4257 | The member deleted this message. oldecurb - 2014-07-31 14:28:00 |
| 4258 | We have a 1946 farthing. It has 'GEORGVIS V1 DGBROMN REX FD IND IMP (think that is what it is - bit hard to read) on the other side. Is it worth anything? Also a 1915 half soverign Also a 1956 strapless penny. We have no idea what these would be worth - any ideas please? macmar - 2014-07-31 20:24:00 |
| 4259 | macmar wrote:
Farthing won't be worth anything except novelty interest. Check the strapless penny for good measure by looking at the base of the Queen's neck and the initials M.G. should be good and clear (compare against a 1953-55 penny if you have one to hand) - just to make sure that it isn't just a worn "with strap" one. The initials on the "with strap" coins are much harder to make out, regardless of condition. translateltd - 2014-07-31 20:39:00 |
| 4260 | Anyone know why some of our "handles" should sometimes appear with row of asterisks between the first and last letters? Gammoner has appeared as g******r on these boards a couple of times, and I saw a well known bidder as d*******9 just earlier this evening. They seem to revert back to their full forms again spontaneously. translateltd - 2014-07-31 20:50:00 |
| 4261 | translateltd - where would I find the initials 'M.G.? macmar - 2014-07-31 20:55:00 |
| 4262 | macmar wrote: translateltd - 2014-07-31 21:28:00 |
| 4263 | any-body watching this auction...[Listing #: 758469176]...lol Edited by chefman1 at 9:50 pm, Thu 31 Jul chefman1 - 2014-07-31 21:37:00 |
| 4264 | Looking at the coin the U in Queen - right hand side points between dots - but I am darned if I can find the initials....I will have to get it checked out. Thank you macmar - 2014-07-31 21:44:00 |
| 4265 | macmar wrote:
if you put up a photo of the coin we can let you know if its a strapless one or not. chefman1 - 2014-07-31 21:46:00 |
| 4266 | I am not sure how to post a photo macmar - 2014-07-31 21:58:00 |
| 4267 | macmar wrote:
If it points between dots then the matter is sorted - it's a genuine strapless. translateltd - 2014-07-31 22:01:00 |
| 4268 | Ok, I’m typing this in Word in case my computer crashes halfway through my reply again. I don’t know nothing ‘bout no experts, but I have spent a fair whack of time staring at Bisons (Buffaloes), second probably only to Wheat Cents. This has mostly been a pragmatic thing (think budgetary reasons), but I have accumulated more errors (mostly flan defects) amongst Bisons than anything else. The reasons for the abundance of errors will become clearer below. Well done, BTW, bruce. I went as far as I dared with that lot with the 1923-S last week, but you went harder. I went home empty-handed. Still, I will do my best to maintain dignity in defeat. A lot of my response is going to point to the issues that plagued the Bison (Buffalo) Nickel series, partly a result of the design, but mostly because of the problems presented by (cupro)nickel as a material, which led to a lot of lamination flaws, amongst other things. Particularly problematic overall in terms of detail and definition were the 1919-D & S, 1920-D, 1923-S, 1925-D and 1926-S. Frankly, I have found specimens from most years that have issues in the form of being AU or UNC, but lacking detail because they were weakly struck. The above-referenced years were especially bad, and the Red Book has a footnote for them: Uncirculated pieces with full, sharp details are worth considerably more [than the book prices]. Most of the problems manifest on the obverse in the ribbon wrapped around the bottom of the braid, as well as the braid itself. There’s a line in the ribbon that starts at the left and fades to the right. That can be quite weak on an otherwise nice specimen. Likewise the actual braid: it can have almost no definition amongst the plait, but the rest of the obverse is quite good. For that reason, the first thing I look at is the ribbon at the top of the feathers. There are three folds on the right side of the ribbon itself, and both your 1913 and 1923-S have very good definition among them, though the glare on the 23-S makes it hard to be certain. If the middle of the bow is well-delineated from the right-hand side, in my view this puts the obverse safely into AU. The first real signs of wear are those three folds on the right losing definition, and the middle flattening off and merging with the right-hand side. The lower ribbon on the plait on the 1913 is the better of the two. On the reverse, similar issues arise with the fur around the horn, the fur at the top of the front leg, and the bone at the top of the hip/back leg. There can also be a line of fur down the front of the left front leg, but that is often absent on otherwise nicely struck pieces. The first thing to look at is actually the tuft at the end of the tail, and here again, on both of yours it is in evidence. More importantly, the split in the tuft is quite clear. That’s often the first thing to wear down. The 23-S looks to have a slightly flattened bit just below the top of the hip, and both are a bit flattened in the fur around the horn, as well as along the upper part of the front leg. The hip of the 1913 is very nice, and I would put that in the CAU category as well. Personally, I’d say the same for the 1923, but it was less well struck. Both also have good definition in the fur along the Bison’s left front leg just above the hoof. Honestly, I think PCGS Photograde should have a separate set of pics for those faultier years, in much the same way that they break down Standing Liberty Quarters into 1916-1917, 1917-1924 and 1925-1930. echoriath - 2014-07-31 22:05:00 |
| 4269 | chefman1 wrote:
I cannot believe someone just paid a grand for a cheap Chinese knock-off. I and others have been repeatedly reporting these items to TM as fakes/breaches of TM terms & conditions, etc., and they don't care. I've now sent letters to COIN News in the UK and Coin & Banknote in Australia to alert readers to the existence of these and other fakes of rare dates in the UK and Aussie series in on-line auctions here in NZ, which TM seems happy to encourage. translateltd - 2014-07-31 22:05:00 |
| 4270 | macmar wrote:
Upload to Trade Me, then get the photo up in front of you on the screen. Cut and paste the link here, then we can all have a look. echoriath - 2014-07-31 22:06:00 |
| 4271 | translateltd wrote:
I've heard speculation that TM is going to go the way of Ebay and have all trader names appear this way when bidding and on the Message Board. I've not used Ebay to speak of. Trade Me claims it's a "glitch". echoriath - 2014-07-31 22:10:00 |
| 4272 | For macmar: http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/326567079.jpg translateltd - 2014-07-31 22:19:00 |
| 4273 | Feel free to post screen shots of any trader names that are appearing with asterisks. I was told it was a glitch last week some time, so if it is ongoing, it remains part of my whinge, I mean dialogue, with them about performance issues. On the front burner for me is the varying number of Won and Sold Items since early last year. I'm in a bit of a chicken/egg thing with them over the latter issue, but current screen shots of the name issue would be helpful. echoriath - 2014-07-31 22:22:00 |
| 4274 | echoriath wrote:
Wilco. I just checked one of the lots where this was happening this morning, but the name is back in full again just now. g******r's name was asterisked below one of his posts in this forum just the other day - I presume that when it happens, it's site-wide. translateltd - 2014-07-31 22:28:00 |
| 4275 | Thank you macmar - 2014-07-31 22:29:00 |
| 4276 | echoriath wrote:
Have noticed the same over the last two months,even in an auction I am bidding on ,still comes up with g******r gammoner - 2014-07-31 22:34:00 |
| 4277 | The member deleted this message. macmar - 2014-07-31 22:35:00 |
| 4278 | Yeah, it generally self-corrects in minutes, so as soon as you see it, grab it. I'm quite tired of getting the runaround from TM. I've actually pulled all my listings over the flaky sold (and won) items numbers. They keep blaming the browser, which rings a bit hollow when I have the problem on a browser (Google Chrome) installed for the first time. That and it happens on a Samsung tablet, an HTC phone, IE and Firefox all at the same time. Then suddenly they all come right. Clearly traders are no longer a priority on Trade Me. I am sure it's the browser's fault. echoriath - 2014-07-31 22:35:00 |
| 4279 | http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/thumb/326568480.jpg macmar - 2014-07-31 22:36:00 |
| 4280 | gammoner wrote:
That's just weird. I have 112 on my watch list and 869 on my lost list ... translateltd - 2014-07-31 22:38:00 |
| 4281 | macmar wrote:
the photo is to small to see..sorry chefman1 - 2014-07-31 22:47:00 |
| 4282 | Yes I see that, sorry, not used to doing this - not sure how I can get it bigger, it was bigger in my folder macmar - 2014-07-31 22:48:00 |
| 4283 | translateltd wrote: gammoner - 2014-07-31 22:49:00 |
| 4284 | macmar wrote:
this is the size you need to do Edited by chefman1 at 10:55 pm, Thu 31 Jul chefman1 - 2014-07-31 22:51:00 |
| 4285 | * buy nows gammoner - 2014-07-31 22:52:00 |
| 4286 | Yes in 'my pictures' it is big, just when I saved it to my photos in My Trade Me it reduced itself macmar - 2014-07-31 22:54:00 |
| 4287 | macmar wrote:
Try this: http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/326568480.jpg You need to actually click on it under "My Photos" so it fills your screen before cutting and pasting the address. Or just change the word "thumb" to "full" in the address. Edited by echoriath at 10:57 pm, Thu 31 Jul echoriath - 2014-07-31 22:56:00 |
| 4288 | http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/326570095.jpg macmar - 2014-07-31 23:01:00 |
| 4289 | Yay....did it!!! macmar - 2014-07-31 23:01:00 |
| 4290 | yes its strapless coin cat/value is between $40.00-$60.00 hope that helps you out Edited by chefman1 at 11:06 pm, Thu 31 Jul chefman1 - 2014-07-31 23:02:00 |
| 4291 | Yes thank you very much - I couldn't find the MG initials - now I know :) macmar - 2014-07-31 23:04:00 |
| 4292 | The half soverign is in very good condition macmar - 2014-07-31 23:07:00 |
| 4293 | http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/326572618.jpg macmar - 2014-07-31 23:19:00 |
| 4294 | any mint marks above the date ? or have a look at this site Edited by chefman1 at 11:39 pm, Thu 31 Jul chefman1 - 2014-07-31 23:34:00 |
| 4295 | Ancient All locations 63 listings, showing. Might be the lowest number in ancients for ages. alpha111 - 2014-08-01 07:14:00 |
| 4296 | translateltd wrote: alpha111 - 2014-08-01 07:43:00 |
| 4297 | g******r (1698 1698 positive feedback) alpha111 - 2014-08-01 07:56:00 |
| 4298 | gammoner wrote:
I just got a "sorry, too many items on your watchlist" msg. Deleted about 20 and all was well. translateltd - 2014-08-01 08:04:00 |
| 4299 | Could we as members of the TM coin club ask TM to only list real coins, real banknotes on under there titles, the fakes, copies, reproductions listed under another title? Need help with title, and feed back plus any improvements on this idea. New collectors with out all information will, could be taken for a ride with buying these things. 35 - 2014-08-01 08:52:00 |
| 4300 | 35 wrote:
That would be the ideal, but how would the 'souvenir' sellers be made to comply? It also doesn't address the issue of the items themselves potentially being passed off as the real thing by their new owner, since there's nothing about these items (except for often minor design detail) to identify them as being dodgy. Yesterday's buyer has been suckered by paying $1000 for something he probably thought was worth $15,000 or more. How many others would buy them in full knowledge of their status at the $12 (or whatever) starting price and then try and pass them off for a thousand times that? translateltd - 2014-08-01 09:34:00 |
