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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

chefman1 - 2014-07-03 18:27:00
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dutchess46 wrote:

circulated, 5c x400gms, 10c x 400 gms 20c x300gms. saves counting for now if that helps.

dutchess46 why don't you sell them on trademe, lots of buyers paid good money for them,just letting you know.

chefman1 - 2014-07-03 18:29:00
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opunakeite - 2014-07-03 20:06:00
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A lovely American token/souvenir/coin.
PLEASE READ.
I have listed this coin as above, I have no way of being certain of the TRUE DATE, there are many replicas and forgeries on the market. I cannot guarantee these coins therefor am selling as token/souvenir/coin.
If you are not happy then do not bid...thank you

Another one getting in on the act. Maybe there should be a special forgery listing.

alpha111 - 2014-07-04 08:34:00
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I have recently put a listing on trademe with a collector one dime coin with it I got told by a coin dealer that it was a highly Collectable coin but now seem to be uncertain it's a 1911 barber one dime coin are these highly sort after or not?

cloe8 - 2014-07-04 16:01:00
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oldecurb - 2014-07-04 18:17:00
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oldecurb wrote:

I don't think they are worn they just lack definition like a few of the "cheaper" fakes.

Why would you part with $10 + postage for curiosity when he has already said his grandfather got them in China years ago?
No, oops my mistake! Tthat is the Te Awamutu trader with the exact same wording on his adverts.

I'll ask where he got his!

"You have a number of these "souvenir" coins listed. To give me a better idea of whether these are fakes or not could you please say where and when you got them"

Interesting if we get an answer

He's quick to answer questions - he got them from Hong Kong apparently.

justinian1 - 2014-07-04 18:47:00
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oldecurb - 2014-07-04 19:25:00
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Trademe refuse to remove these counterfeit coins , 750096656 747489749 etc. Guess it's time to import some and list at $1-50 to cover costs and compete with this trader

gammoner - 2014-07-04 19:38:00
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I was in Hong Kong last year at the Jade Market, and every fifth stall had a page or ten of such coins, in addition to some of the other designs. The funny thing is, many Trade Dollars WERE shipped to the Orient. While they were legal tender in the US, because of their increased silver content, at some point in the 1880s Congress changed the law so they could only circulate in Asia*.

So while one can reasonably expect to find the genuine article floating around in Asia, as mentioned there is a a surfeit of fakes. I don't have much advice for picking the wheat from the chaff, except acquiring at least one from a reputable source and using that as a benchmark. PCGS's photograde is also very handy.

My one Trade Dollar has chop marks and came from a very reliable bloke that used to frequent the Coin Club (adamhoops?). May not be my most valuable piece, but it's one of my favourites.

2012 Official Red Book, R. S. Yeoman

echoriath - 2014-07-04 20:38:00
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cloe8 wrote:

I have recently put a listing on trademe with a collector one dime coin with it I got told by a coin dealer that it was a highly Collectable coin but now seem to be uncertain it's a 1911 barber one dime coin are these highly sort after or not?

Is this a different one to the 1913-S you have listed? Either way, can I suggest you get a better photo of the 1913-S dime posted ASAP? In good nick, your guesstimate about value is in the paddock, at least from an insurance/replacement value point of view, but condition is vital, and it's very difficult to tell from the photo. FWIW, that coin would be your wheat, while much of that listing looks like chaff.

Just a few quick tips on photos:
The easy way with a good camera is to put it on Auto. If you are more motivated, look for a flower icon that is a setting called Macro. This is specifically for the purpose of taking close-up photos. This process is easier with a tripod, though you can stabilise the camera yourself by holding the camera with both hands and placing your elbows on a flat surface above the coins.

It's also better to turn off the flash and shoot with natural sunlight. Cameras that cost more than $100 or so (and maybe some that are less) have a remarkable number of options for taking good pix, but the main point is that good pix of both sides of your coins generally = better returns. Good pix reveal the quality of coins, whether that quality be good or bad.

The first couple of pages of this thread have more tips on taking good pix. If in doubt, have a look at some of the coin listings of regular contributors in here to see what you are trying to achieve.

echoriath - 2014-07-04 20:48:00
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echoriath wrote:

Is this a different one to the 1913-S you have listed? Either way, can I suggest you get a better photo of the 1913-S dime posted ASAP? In good nick, your guesstimate about value is in the paddock, at least from an insurance/replacement value point of view, but condition is vital, and it's very difficult to tell from the photo. FWIW, that coin would be your wheat, while much of that listing looks like chaff.

Just a few quick tips on photos:
The easy way with a good camera is to put it on Auto. If you are more motivated, look for a flower icon that is a setting called Macro. This is specifically for the purpose of taking close-up photos. This process is easier with a tripod, though you can stabilise the camera yourself by holding the camera with both hands and placing your elbows on a flat surface above the coins.

It's also better to turn off the flash and shoot with natural sunlight. Cameras that cost more than $100 or so (and maybe some that are less) have a remarkable number of options for taking good pix, but the main point is that good pix of both sides of your coins generally = better returns. Good pix reveal the quality of coins, whether that quality be good or bad.

The first couple of pages of this thread have more tips on taking good pix. If in doubt, have a look at some of the coin listings of regular contributors in here to see what you are trying to achieve.


Yeah sorry 1913 will take a pic now and post in 5 minutes thanks

cloe8 - 2014-07-04 21:18:00
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cloe8 wrote:


Yeah sorry 1913 will take a pic now and post in 5 minutes thanks

I will be watching, and quite possibly bidding.

echoriath - 2014-07-04 21:32:00
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That sounds optimistic but still I'm unsure what it's worth and whether it's genuinely Collectable I'm a bit on the dumb end of the scale with these coins I just collected them as a boy and held onto them for sentimental reasons but decided others would enjoy them more rather than keep them cooped up. So many different sites give different figures and other trade sites have fluctuations in the price so I don't know whether my reserve is optimistic or not enough. Would be great to see $$$ signs don't get me wrong but at the same time just want what the coins worth.

cloe8 - 2014-07-04 21:46:00
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That 1913 dime is in pretty good nick. You're quite certain there's an S on the back below the wreath? I ask because it's hard to be certain from the photo. No S does change things considerable.

echoriath - 2014-07-04 22:26:00
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Can't quite see if there is an s or not my eye sight isn't very good will look in the morning in daylight

cloe8 - 2014-07-04 22:55:00
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echoriath wrote:

That 1913 dime is in pretty good nick. You're quite certain there's an S on the back below the wreath? I ask because it's hard to be certain from the photo. No S does change things considerable.

tim there no [s] below the wreath, i had a good look at the coin and on ebay for the different.

chefman1 - 2014-07-04 23:16:00
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Yeah think chef man is right don't think there is an s on it had a read up about the s but no visible sign of a b d or s

cloe8 - 2014-07-05 09:52:00
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No worries, cloe. As I say, the better pix, the less ambiguity there is about what is listed.

echoriath - 2014-07-07 18:57:00
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muzz8 - 2014-07-08 20:43:00
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751331827 and 751331810 ?

lester36 - 2014-07-08 22:01:00
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oldecurb - 2014-07-08 23:02:00
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muzz8 - 2014-07-09 02:27:00
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Wonder why the 1949 florin listing also includes pics of a 34 and 49 halfcrown. D's increments are a bit large for him to be testing the "15%" threshold, surely.

translateltd - 2014-07-09 07:47:00
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So any groundbreaking news from RNSNZ meeting? Any stoushes we should know about? Any knock-down, drag-out arguments over whether the best coin at the show was MS64 or MS 65?

Edited by echoriath at 12:13 pm, Thu 10 Jul

echoriath - 2014-07-10 12:10:00
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748660390

I reckon $120 was actually a pretty fair offer.

dtpapa - 2014-07-10 12:57:00
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Hi, any idea what the greenish colour is on one of those tokens might be? is it toning?
yes it is, you will fine them on pennies..half/pennies..and tokens and all copper coins to.

chefman1 - 2014-07-10 14:14:00
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echoriath wrote:

Any knock-down, drag-out arguments over whether the best coin at the show was MS64 or MS 65?

Obviously US shows are a bit different by the sound of that! The presentations were great, the guy operating the projector was outstanding, the walking tour around numismatic sites in Wellington was surprisingly good, and the fair on Sunday was well attended with no lulls that I could see. The whole thing went really well. (I was pretty much a bystander this time and not involved much in the pre-show organisation so I can get away with saying that, I hope. On reflection, maybe that's why it was better than most of the previous ones.)

translateltd - 2014-07-10 14:44:00
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or it could have been pink and green paint?

dtpapa - 2014-07-10 14:44:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Hi, any idea what the greenish colour is on one of those tokens might be? is it toning?
yes it is, you will fine them on pennies..half/pennies..and tokens and all copper coins to.

I think there are several different things affecting different tokens here. Isolated greenish spots could be verdigris, especially if the surface is starting to corrode around them. The token in the bottom row with lots of whitish marks is probably showing residue of metal polish - Brasso does that, though not immediately, as I learned when still very young. Not sure about the broad greenish patches at all. First thought was plasticine residues but it would need closer inspection.

translateltd - 2014-07-10 14:49:00
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Oh, and the launch of the updated "MacMaster II" medal catalogue went well, too, with about a third of the print run selling during the weekend.

translateltd - 2014-07-10 14:51:00
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translateltd wrote:

Oh, and the launch of the updated "MacMaster II" medal catalogue went well, too, with about a third of the print run selling during the weekend.

so i here...lol

chefman1 - 2014-07-10 15:28:00
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an ultrasonic cleaner often does a good job removing the whitish stuff you sometimes find on tokens

dtpapa - 2014-07-10 17:43:00
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youshop down, they lost my coins now they've given away my vital details. Grrr!!!

dtpapa - 2014-07-11 12:31:00
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chefman1 - 2014-07-11 13:48:00
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VERY RARE COIN ERROR Start price: $1,000,000.00 No reserve Closes: Fri 18 Jul, 11:56 am Watchlist Listing #: 752860248
You shop here then U B broke.

alpha111 - 2014-07-11 14:53:00
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alpha111 wrote:

VERY RARE COIN ERROR Start price: $1,000,000.00 No reserve Closes: Fri 18 Jul, 11:56 am Watchlist Listing #: 752860248
You shop here then U B broke.

not very good photo's showing the coin

chefman1 - 2014-07-11 14:59:00
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translateltd wrote:

First thought was plasticine residues but it would need closer inspection.

If a copper content coin is stored too long in one of those PVC holders that degrades don't they get a "sludgy" green residue?

Edited by chrisr5 at 4:02 pm, Fri 11 Jul

chrisr5 - 2014-07-11 16:01:00
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alpha111 wrote:

VERY RARE COIN ERROR Start price: $1,000,000.00 No reserve Closes: Fri 18 Jul, 11:56 am Watchlist Listing #: 752860248
You shop here then U B broke.

One for the quartel?

chrisr5 - 2014-07-11 16:02:00
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chefman1 wrote:

not very good photo's showing the coin

How are you doing chefman?

chrisr5 - 2014-07-11 16:03:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

How are you doing chefman?

long time know see?i am not to bad thankyou..how is the family?hope they are all well

chefman1 - 2014-07-11 16:34:00
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translateltd wrote:

Oh, and the launch of the updated "MacMaster II" medal catalogue went well, too, with about a third of the print run selling during the weekend.


Very nice Martin. Picked up a copy while at Tawa on Thursday.Everyone have a great weekend.

gammoner - 2014-07-11 18:43:00
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Lol Peter, looks like you need this set

No alan i was giving you a run for your money...lol

chefman1 - 2014-07-11 20:26:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Lol Peter, looks like you need this set

No alan i was giving you a run for your money...lol

All good Peter, I took the proof set instead.

gammoner - 2014-07-11 20:56:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

One for the quartel?

We're running low on such items We should find out if they have several available.

echoriath - 2014-07-11 21:18:00
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gammoner wrote:

All good Peter, I took the proof set instead.

i saw that..lol...still waiting on payment detail's from seller

chefman1 - 2014-07-11 21:43:00
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198

chefman1 - 2014-07-11 21:44:00
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chefman1 - 2014-07-11 21:44:00
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hundy

chefman1 - 2014-07-11 21:44:00
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