P.S. Maybe the music was removed from the published design for the very reason that it wasn't really music, and would therefore annoy people who knew, and puzzle those who didn't.

As far as i know, the only NZ stamps with real music notated on them are the 1997 Christmas stamps, which have the music for "Te Harinui" (by the late Willow Macky of Auckland) running along the bottom of the design.

musikal - 2012-04-24 00:58:00

Apart from the Royal Philatelic Society is there any other organisation that provides an Approval service ?

philafarinz - 2012-04-24 15:39:00

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muzz8 - 2012-04-26 06:56:00

philafarinz wrote:

Apart from the Royal Philatelic Society is there any other organisation that provides an Approval service ?

Do you mean Expertising ?
If so in New Zealand no.
Some Stamp Dealers will Expertise stamps for you but it does not carry as much weight as a Royal Certificate that is recognized World wide.
This has been copied and pasted from the Royals wed site as follows:----
The Expert Committee is a group of New Zealand's leading philatelists who offer internationally recognised, authoritative and certified opinion on the identity and genuineness of any New Zealand or Pacific Islands philatelic material submitted to it. The committee is affiliated to the AIEP.

Items for consideration are sent to at least two members of the Expert Committee, more if the item is particularly challenging. Confidential written reports are submitted to the Recorder of the Committee who issues a Certificate of Opinion based upon those reports. Each Certificate is individually numbered, and includes a colour photograph of the item and bears the official stamp of the Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand.

rebel58 - 2012-04-26 11:49:00

muzz8 wrote:

Does anyone else collect Blacksheep issues- (predecessor to NZ mail)they only produced about 400 items
-but gee it is hard to find some of the early issues-and no catalogue out as yet to base values on!!!!!

Ahhhh Muzz that explains a lot about you.The Black Sheep kicked out of Lincoln and banished to the Northern Island.
Does collecting these bring back bad memories or good?

rebel58 - 2012-04-26 15:04:00

rebel58 wrote:

Do you mean Expertising ?
If so in New Zealand no.
Some Stamp Dealers will Expertise stamps for you but it does not carry as much weight as a Royal Certificate that is recognized World wide.
This has been copied and pasted from the Royals wed site as follows:----
The Expert Committee is a group of New Zealand's leading philatelists who offer internationally recognised, authoritative and certified opinion on the identity and genuineness of any New Zealand or Pacific Islands philatelic material submitted to it. The committee is affiliated to the AIEP.

Items for consideration are sent to at least two members of the Expert Committee, more if the item is particularly challenging. Confidential written reports are submitted to the Recorder of the Committee who issues a Certificate of Opinion based upon those reports. Each Certificate is individually numbered, and includes a colour photograph of the item and bears the official stamp of the Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand.

As stated - an Approval Service, nothing to do with expertising.
An approval service sends out material (in the past there were approval books) to its members who pick out what they want and pay for the retained stamps of which x% goes to the society.

philafarinz - 2012-04-26 16:24:00

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muzz8 - 2012-04-26 18:31:00

philafarinz wrote:

As stated - an Approval Service, nothing to do with expertising.
An approval service sends out material (in the past there were approval books) to its members who pick out what they want and pay for the retained stamps of which x% goes to the society.

We are at terms with terminology yet again .
Try Circuit books.Most Stamp clubs ,Societies have them.So the answer to Circuit Books is yes.

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rebel58 - 2012-04-26 18:45:00

Well going through the various Societies in the Federation website I found one that distributes Circuit books - are there others ?

philafarinz - 2012-04-26 18:55:00

philafarinz wrote:

Well going through the various Societies in the Federation website I found one that distributes Circuit books - are there others ?

Yes.

rebel58 - 2012-04-26 19:49:00

philafarinz wrote:

Well going through the various Societies in the Federation website I found one that distributes Circuit books - are there others ?

I don't know which one you found but ones that I know which operate exchange branches include Hutt Valley, The Christchurch Philatelic society, the NZ Stamp Collectors club of Christchurch and Southland Philatelic society. no doubt there are many others that do too. Most however will only circulate their books in their own locality because of the value and cost of sending by courier services. I know that the NZ Stamp Club which is based in Christchurch has several circuits in Christchurch, one in North Canterbury, and one which goes to Timaru/Ashburton. These books are always passed on by hand so signatures of receipt can be obtained. i don't know if the Whangarei Club operates an exchange branch but if not then why not help them set up one?

kiwisteven - 2012-04-29 22:03:00

musikal wrote:

P.S. Maybe the music was removed from the published design for the very reason that it wasn't really music, and would therefore annoy people who knew, and puzzle those who didn't.

As far as i know, the only NZ stamps with real music notated on them are the 1997 Christmas stamps, which have the music for "Te Harinui" (by the late Willow Macky of Auckland) running along the bottom of the design.

I'm fairly sure the marching band music on the 1986 Music set stamp is the well known Invercargill March.

kiwisteven - 2012-04-30 20:00:00

Hi guys was hoping for your advice. I used to collect stamps as a kid and was wondering if you could recommend someone in Auckland who could look over my stamps and give me recommended retail I could sell them for, without trying to gauge me? Thanks.

asgard - 2012-04-30 20:07:00

asgard wrote:

Hi guys was hoping for your advice. I used to collect stamps as a kid and was wondering if you could recommend someone in Auckland who could look over my stamps and give me recommended retail I could sell them for, without trying to gauge me? Thanks.

Don't expect to get anything like retail price for a collection. As a dealer myself I often sell for half of priced catalogue prices. Who to go to depends on what you have. nz or foreign, specialised or a simplified collection. I don't know what you mean by somebody not gauging you. It is the stamp collection they will value. All of the Auckland dealers with retail shops at present are honest and reputable and their knowledge is as good as you will get anywhere in Auckland. Go and see at least two of them and ask for a verbal appraisal. I'm sure if you take your collection into them there will be no charge for a verbal valuation and you might even get an offer. They are professionals and have their reputation to stand by. Backyard dealers however can come in all qualities from the very best to the odd crook but if you know nothing about stamp collection valuation then you are really safest to deal with a professional and get at least two opinions. Remember the only true appraisal is from somebody prepared to back it with their money.

kiwisteven - 2012-05-02 01:08:00

Hi all..

Date and possible value of this stamp please.. Has a tear left edge to nose, but is not noticable ..

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/95/215523895_full.jp
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spike_01 - 2012-05-02 12:30:00

I believe this is a cut-out from some postal stationery or similar and not an actual stamp.

phil.s - 2012-05-02 12:40:00

phil.s wrote:

I believe this is a cut-out from some postal stationery or similar and not an actual stamp.

It is postmarked..

spike_01 - 2012-05-02 12:41:00

spike_01 wrote:

It is postmarked..

You are right it is a cut out from postal stationary ,virtually worthless unless the postmark is a rarity or if the card is complete.

rebel58 - 2012-05-02 13:35:00

In that case, I will chuck it on here, as Unknown.. With $1:00 Res..

Cheers..

spike_01 - 2012-05-02 13:46:00

Good day stamp gurus. I've come for a brief foray from the dark and nefarious world of numismatism to ask a question. I was wondering if any of these were worth auctioning or whether they were all so common as to not even warrant a combined $1 res auction.

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/10/215533410_full.jp
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http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/10/215533410_full.jp
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http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/55/215533555_full.jp
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The names and addresses are virtually obliterated and are intact on the actual real envelopes. Thanks in advance.

chrisr5 - 2012-05-02 13:56:00

$1 to $1.50 each.

akaroa - 2012-05-02 18:01:00

Thanks Akaroa. Managed to miss this one - http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/48/215532048_full.jp
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Any ideas on this one?

chrisr5 - 2012-05-02 19:16:00

$1.50, and on a good day I've seen them go for up to $7.50

akaroa - 2012-05-02 21:16:00

Has anyone mastered soaking self-adhesive stamps, in particular alternative mail/NZ Mail stamps? Have heard using hot water and detergent works. Is this the best way?

paulmc - 2012-05-02 21:29:00

paulmc wrote:

Has anyone mastered soaking self-adhesive stamps, in particular alternative mail/NZ Mail stamps? Have heard using hot water and detergent works. Is this the best way?

Nasty horrible things they are and the answer to your question is No.There is a better way but for the life of me I cant remember it ,but it is in this forum away's back.
All I can remember is the last stage and it involves a metal ruler!!!
Believe it or not.

rebel58 - 2012-05-02 22:47:00

paulmc wrote:

Has anyone mastered soaking self-adhesive stamps, in particular alternative mail/NZ Mail stamps? Have heard using hot water and detergent works. Is this the best way?

Here we go.
donaldo wrote:

has anybody tried FUELITE' yet as it was suggested earlier--but then is it worth it when the current rate for these appears to be under face

I use "zippo" lighter fluid. Let them soak in it for about two to three minutes then the backing paper should come away from the stamp. Place the stamp face down on a piece of paper and run a metal ruler over it to remove the sticky gum. Most stamps only need one wash but sometimes they need more. Hope this helps.

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teddybearlover (740 ) 10:41 pm, Sat 14 Aug #2676

donaldo wrote:

has anybody tried FUELITE' yet as it was suggested earlier--but then is it worth it when the current rate for these appears to be under face

I have tried this and it works well as long as you follow the guy's instructions who did the video.

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rebel58 - 2012-05-02 22:57:00

rolyrj Had a video online on how to soak and clean these buggers,google Cleaning self adhesive stamps maybe? Or ask a question on one of his auctions.

rebel58 - 2012-05-02 23:03:00

Hi all, a local shop has a 1984 Campbell Paterson NZ ring-binder catalog for aorund $70 in good nick. I am just starting collecting pre-decimal NZ stamps, and was wondering if it would be a good purchase to identify stamps with - would there have been a lot of updates since this issue that I would miss, or would it still be a handy resource?

gothik - 2012-05-03 16:41:00

gothik wrote:

Hi all, a local shop has a 1984 Campbell Paterson NZ ring-binder catalog for aorund $70 in good nick. I am just starting collecting pre-decimal NZ stamps, and was wondering if it would be a good purchase to identify stamps with - would there have been a lot of updates since this issue that I would miss, or would it still be a handy resource?

Nothing better if it is just for the pre decimals.Considering that a new one is around $180.00 + updates every year.It is not really worthwhile buying a new one just for pre Decimals.Mine is from 2001 and I have not purchased any updates as about thing only thing that changes is the values..

rebel58 - 2012-05-03 17:03:00

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donaldo - 2012-05-03 21:11:00

Blump

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muzz8 - 2012-05-06 18:12:00

Thankyou kiwisteven. I don't know whose a reputable dealer though, any recommendations?

asgard - 2012-05-06 19:15:00

asgard wrote:

Thankyou kiwisteven. I don't know whose a reputable dealer though, any recommendations?

Len Jury & Auckland City Stamps are both fairly well known

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tmg - 2012-05-06 22:22:00

i use a lighthouse album to store my stamps, last night the metal pins broke away from the back cover binding rendering the book usless, any one know /have had this issue and if it can be fixed, ? or do i now need to buy a new cover/2nd hand cover, anyone in ch-ch region have an old one to sell ? give away
crying collector :(

gandalff4 - 2012-05-09 09:19:00

asgard wrote:

Thankyou kiwisteven. I don't know whose a reputable dealer though, any recommendations?

Without knowing what you have but knowing you are in greater Auckland I'd suggest David Holmes of Auckland City Stamps. he is as honest and upfront as anybody you will find.

kiwisteven - 2012-05-09 17:34:00

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kiwisteven - 2012-05-09 17:44:00

kiwisteven wrote:

Hi Joe,

Give me a phonecall (still the old shop number works) and we can discuss some options. regards, Steven

thanks steven :)

gandalff4 - 2012-05-10 09:45:00

LOL - pre quote scenario or did you delete your own message Steven ?

philafarinz - 2012-05-11 09:10:00

anyone attended the Lower Hutt stamp exhibition today? Very interesting exhibit, especially the ones on 1898's pictorials and the different postmarks in Wellington.

ang_ck - 2012-05-12 15:12:00

philafarinz wrote:

LOL - pre quote scenario or did you delete your own message Steven ?

Trademe deleted it because they claimed I provided contact details when i mentioned that my old phone number still worked. This was even though i wasn't trying to sell anything and already knew the person. i have had discussions with them over it.

kiwisteven - 2012-05-13 01:21:00

I fully understand Steven.
Should you or anyone else have the Botswana SG792 mint never hinged be sure to list and let me know for an instant sale.

philafarinz - 2012-05-13 13:11:00

philafarinz wrote:

I fully understand Steven.
Should you or anyone else have the Botswana SG792 mint never hinged be sure to list and let me know for an instant sale.[/quote

My Botswana stock book is currently with an outworker being worked on but I'll check it next week when it comes back.

kiwisteven - 2012-05-14 00:56:00

philafarinz wrote:

I fully understand Steven.
Should you or anyone else have the Botswana SG792 mint never hinged be sure to list and let me know for an instant sale.

Have checked and don't have that stamp I'm sorry.

kiwisteven - 2012-05-14 13:59:00

kiwisteven wrote:

Have checked and don't have that stamp I'm sorry.

No problem -Thank you for looking

philafarinz - 2012-05-14 20:09:00

What does everybody think of the new Maori Rock drawing stamps?

I think that the country names are far too small for people to read and of course this is compounded by having both New Zealand and Aotearoa country names on each stamp. Perhaps we should simply change our country name to Aotearoa and that would make things tidier and simpler especially for collectors overseas.

kiwisteven - 2012-05-15 21:54:00

I don't mind the design of the stamps but you are right the Country's name is way too small. I see that NZ Post are bringing out the All Black, fern stamp that we had last year with the new postal rate which I think is disappointing. Just to change the subject a bit, I went to the Post Office today to send a parcel to a collector as I wanted to buy nice stamps. The woman told me they had no commemoratives just definitives which I find very hard to believe. They are making it even harder to use the higher value commemoratives.

stak - 2012-05-15 23:32:00

Interesting designs but agree that the country names are too small. The title "Maori Rock Art" is quite large. Making it smaller would have left more room to make the country names larger. There is not usually both country names on our stamps (only on Maori themed stamps?) so it isn't usually a problem.

paulmc - 2012-05-15 23:55:00