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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

mudeki - 2014-06-26 10:44:00
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Old Decimal Rolls. I seem to have some recorded as being in my collection. 1978 1c and 1975 5c. Also got some aussie rolls (lots) and a USA 1953S dimes. I don't remember seeing them recently. I wonder were they are?

nznotes - 2014-06-26 10:46:00
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nznotes wrote:

The 10c and 20c come in similar boxes as the 50c. I have examples at home.
I also have old rolls of predecimal coin. From memory I have a 1d roll and a half penny roll. Both rolled in plain brown paper. Both dated 1964 with 60 coins in a roll.

Just out of interest do the predecimal rolls have any writing on them i have a couple as well but just blank. I have always been unsure if they were provided to banks like that or if the banks rolled them.

with the old decimals I have only really seen wespac rolls for sale recently and mainly the 1 & 2 cent. Would love to pick up a few.

Thanks for filling me in on the 10 and 20c I only see what makes it to work from the security company and they are normally taken out and put in bags of $200

mudeki - 2014-06-26 10:49:00
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Just plain brown paper on the predecimal rolls. No details at all. I do not know if the banks rolled them or the mint. Or the Reserve Bank. One of the old dealers should know.

nznotes - 2014-06-26 11:34:00
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has anyone seen many good examples of a natural rainbow tone on an NZ coin? I have a 1969 Cook's Chart one dollar which has some nice tone to it. I believe it to be genuine toning as it was still in its original plastic packaging.

dtpapa - 2014-06-27 14:45:00
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Are one penny's and NewZealand penny's worth anything? Trying to sell off my entire coin collection have come across some old coins but have a large amount of penny's but not sure how much to list them for any help will be appreciated thanks

cloe8 - 2014-06-27 14:53:00
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cloe8 wrote:

Are one penny's and NewZealand penny's worth anything? Trying to sell off my entire coin collection have come across some old coins but have a large amount of penny's but not sure how much to list them for any help will be appreciated thanks

I see no-one's picked up on this yet. Basically, no, unfortunately. Have a look around on TradeMe for any current and closed auctions of bulk lots of pennies and halfpennies and you'll get an idea of the sort of prices they move for.

translateltd - 2014-06-29 13:42:00
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Cool cheers for that kind of figured that after I wrote it so I just dollar reserved it I didn't really know much about my coin collection so I dollar reserved a majority of it but did do some homework on a few of the coins cheers for the reply though

cloe8 - 2014-06-29 16:27:00
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Are these fakes Listing #: 747867654

proracer - 2014-06-29 21:16:00
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proracer wrote:

Are these fakes Listing #: 747867654

I would think so as they are A$100 for NZ$11. Also states they are gold plated, I'm sure the genuine article would be solid gold.

chrisr5 - 2014-06-29 21:30:00
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Even when it got 1 Oz .9999 Gold on it?

proracer - 2014-06-29 21:37:00
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oldecurb - 2014-06-29 22:10:00
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I agree that we need a curb (sorry) on this. I believe even the famous Eccles had to return an item. The ' Lot of 25 uncleaned Spanish coins from 1400-1700AD' is an example of another type of unmitigated rubbish that is being brought into this country. This trader (once Australia now Auckland?) has flooded the ancients listing with 257 (at present) lots. I wonder what cc coins means ~ crap? corroded? cut? There are also other lots that are just worn scrap metal but some mugs are buying them.

alpha111 - 2014-06-30 07:30:00
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Just remembered the time that I got suspended from the message board etc. for interfering with people's auctions by saying items were fakes.

alpha111 - 2014-06-30 07:34:00
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I reported some "souvenirs" yesterday as being blatant Chinese forgeries - a 1930 Aussie penny, among others. I notice one or two of that particular seller's items are marked as replicas but not nearly enough of them, and not the most dangerous ones. Some are blatantly obvious copies to a reasonably experienced eye but others need a closer look. My own approach is to report the fakes of the rarer items, and will keep on doing so every time I see them. The "souvenir" description is an attempt at self-protection, which I think only started after some earlier complaints.

translateltd - 2014-06-30 08:17:00
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Hi, could some kind person give me an estimate of what a 1912 full Sovereign is worth?
Appears to be in excellent condition but has a gold mount. I assume this was so it could be worn as a necklace on a chain.
Thanks

cjohnw - 2014-06-30 16:32:00
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cjohnw wrote:

Hi, could some kind person give me an estimate of what a 1912 full Sovereign is worth?
Appears to be in excellent condition but has a gold mount. I assume this was so it could be worn as a necklace on a chain.
Thanks

If the coin is soldered or otherwise held in the mount it will probably be only worth the scrap gold weight which is about NZ$385 currently. Otherwise the closing price for full sovereigns is currently around the NZ$425 mark give or take. Here's a link for closed auctions, the ones that actually sold are the fairest indicators. - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?from=adva
nced&advanced=true&searchstring=sovereign+coin&c
urrent=0&cid=4353&rptpath=187-4353-&sort_order=d
efault&searchregion=100

ETA - NZ$385 plus the value of the gold in the mount.....

Edited by chrisr5 at 4:45 pm, Mon 30 Jun

chrisr5 - 2014-06-30 16:44:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

If the coin is soldered or otherwise held in the mount it will probably be only worth the scrap gold weight which is about NZ$385 currently. Otherwise the closing price for full sovereigns is currently around the NZ$425 mark give or take. Here's a link for closed auctions, the ones that actually sold are the fairest indicators. - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?from=adva
nced&advanced=true&searchstring=sovereign+coin&c
urrent=0&cid=4353&rptpath=187-4353-&sort_order=d
efault&searchregion=100

ETA - NZ$385 plus the value of the gold in the mount.....

Thank you very much.

cjohnw - 2014-06-30 17:00:00
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proracer wrote:

Are these fakes Listing #: 747867654

Perth Mint are going to ask TM to remove the coin.

chrisr5 - 2014-06-30 19:05:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Perth Mint are going to ask TM to remove the coin.

Have already pointed out to TM unless these are clearly stamped "Copy" or "Replica " then they are straight out forgeries of a legal denomination coin, and as such are counterfeit currency . They did originally pull the listings,but seem to have taken a different view because the seller now just states souvenir . Hogwash, they are counterfeit currency.

gammoner - 2014-06-30 19:48:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Perth Mint are going to ask TM to remove the coin.

That one's a pretty crude copy but even so, it's not on. All we can do is keep on reporting them.

translateltd - 2014-06-30 20:39:00
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Hi all back again just a quick lesson is needed . I'm selling a sovereign coin and knew nothing about till today. How do I know if it's a proof coin? What's the difference? Would it be worth more if it was a proof coin? Could anyone with coin experience be able to look through my coins and tell if they are proof by looking at them? I just collected them from when I was a boy and i thought it was time to move along in life and get rid of them. Cheers for any help will be greatly received.

cloe8 - 2014-06-30 22:02:00
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Proofs are generally made from highly polished dies and highly polished blank metal disks (planchets). They are often stamped twice. You'll probably have an easier time seeing the difference via a google search. This site is also very helpful if you can find your way to your coin:

http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

Once you learn to navigate this site, it will be a very valuable resource.

echoriath - 2014-06-30 22:57:00
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It would also pay to visit a dealer if there is one in your neighbourhood and look closely at some packaged "proof" and "uncirculated" coins to compare them. The depth and quality of the proof striking should be fairly easy to recognise after you've seen a few.

translateltd - 2014-07-01 07:40:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Perth Mint are going to ask TM to remove the coin.

Got a note from TM this morning saying this auction had been terminated. Now for the rest ...

translateltd - 2014-07-01 10:12:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

Perth Mint are going to ask TM to remove the coin.

A bought one but trader not replying to me, even when i said fedral polive be interested

proracer - 2014-07-01 11:31:00
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proracer wrote:

A bought one but trader not replying to me, even when i said fedral polive be interested

I bought one and new listing came up automaticy again. so they have a few and already sold a few if you look at expired auctions

proracer - 2014-07-01 11:32:00
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Replicas / fakes listed on trademe

I was advised by trademe support over a month ago now that the only way we can stop these is to keep complaining about them as they would not know how to tell the difference. Its a shame really but there must me something else they can do like ban the people clearly importing them to resell (two of them not listed as in trade btw). The one that really annoys me and i have mentioned a lot in the past is the 2003 LOTR commemorative dollar. These are regarded as Non Circulating Legal Tender (NCLT) even still i have spoken to the reserve bank and was asked to email them with no response. Might as well just send the information to the media about counterfeit NCLT being sold online and see if they are bored enough to mention it. Still I have had a number of these removed by trademe in the last few weeks.

I am in wellington this week and have a few replica coins I ordered from the same suppliers to show anyone interested at the conference (they are not and never will be for sale from me). They all cost between $1.6-$2.13 USD from the Chinese suppliers so these traders are laughing all the way to the bank while they ruin this hobby (obsession) for some of us. The quality is rather scary even a replica of the 1972 double die USA 1 cent that most would think is real.

mudeki - 2014-07-01 23:03:00
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cloe8: Just to clarify my comment above, when I say proofs are stamped twice, that means that the planchets are pressed twice (on each side) by the dies. This (and sometimes more detailed dies) provides the depth and quality of which translateltd speaks. Visiting a coin dealer is a good idea. Just explain your interest, and I reckon most dealers will be happy to chat away about it.

echoriath - 2014-07-01 23:27:00
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The prospect of so many fakes is troubling, though not surprising, I guess.

mudeki: What would you say are the best ways to differentiate copies of that 1972 double die? Presumably the devil is in the details. Will it be more obvious under magnification?

echoriath - 2014-07-01 23:30:00
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echoriath wrote:

The prospect of so many fakes is troubling, though not surprising, I guess.

mudeki: What would you say are the best ways to differentiate copies of that 1972 double die? Presumably the devil is in the details. Will it be more obvious under magnification?

Yea when you look at it compared to another coin you can tell it does not have the right detail and the writing is bigger (as are most of the copies). the strike is also not the best for detail but i am unsure if this is just the one i have or not. I have not taken photos of that coin yet and i do not have the camera set up but i put a few other ones that turned up on a website the other week. http://wp.me/P4A88C-1y0

mudeki - 2014-07-01 23:42:00
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Interesting. Thanks for that. Yes, the fakes have essentially a bold font and less-detailed characters. Is that reasonably consistent across the spectrum for fakes? The finish of the fakes is almost too good.

I have bought a couple of copies for purposes of disambiguation, but often they are so obviously fakes.

echoriath - 2014-07-02 00:07:00
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What a pity this seller used an illustration of a lower-grade coin for his auction: 748713597. Would have been nice to see the XF one.

translateltd - 2014-07-02 11:52:00
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And this UK crown 748713418 VF with light wear to high points. He must have worked for one of the second-rate US grading companies.

alpha111 - 2014-07-02 18:25:00
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alpha111 wrote:

And this UK crown 748713418 VF with light wear to high points. He must have worked for one of the second-rate US grading companies.


Nah, just that the dragon had just eaten and that is why he has large flat spots on tummy lol

gammoner - 2014-07-02 18:52:00
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alpha111 wrote:

And this UK crown 748713418 VF with light wear to high points. He must have worked for one of the second-rate US grading companies.

At least the reserves aren't outrageous, I guess, but even so ...

translateltd - 2014-07-02 19:59:00
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Listing #: 749289391 = 1994 50 cent bi-metal coin
have these's coins double in price now???

chefman1 - 2014-07-02 20:59:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Listing #: 749289391 = 1994 50 cent bi-metal coin
have these's coins double in price now???


Doubt it but I see that you are listing a double coin with your "VERY INTERESTING ASIA COIN FOR-SALE" Nice specimen.

alpha111 - 2014-07-02 21:13:00
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I was given a USA 1885 Silver Dollar coin. It has an eagle on one side, with the words "In god we trust" The other side is a cameo head with a liberty wreath in her hair and the words "E PLURIBUS UNUM. I have been told it is valuable, any one know? or where can I get it valued/sell it? Thanks

naads1 - 2014-07-02 21:21:00
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naads1 wrote:

I was given a USA 1885 Silver Dollar coin. It has an eagle on one side, with the words "In god we trust" The other side is a cameo head with a liberty wreath in her hair and the words "E PLURIBUS UNUM. I have been told it is valuable, any one know? or where can I get it valued/sell it? Thanks

You'd need to get it weighed accurately and post some clear images for an initial appraisal - there are lots of forgeries around (see some of the postings above), and while some are obvious, others are less so, and the weight and diameter would help in those cases.

translateltd - 2014-07-02 21:31:00
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alpha111 wrote:


Doubt it but I see that you are listing a double coin with your "VERY INTERESTING ASIA COIN FOR-SALE" Nice specimen.

lol...so why are they selling for $50.00 now...i thought the cat/value was $25.00
Nice specimen = thanks don..i can put up a buy-now for you if you like???

chefman1 - 2014-07-02 21:46:00
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oldecurb - 2014-07-02 22:37:00
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Hi there, I have a NZ 1933 Threepence and 1955 Sixpence and an 1896 (British?) Penny...
Where is the best place to find out if they are worth anything? I know nothing about collecting coins or if they are worth anything or not. Thanks in advance

babymad - 2014-07-02 23:05:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Been reading your dictionary again Tim!

It's an easy way to annoy the wife.

Mind you, my stepmum never played Scrabble with me again after I used "dotard" in a game.

echoriath - 2014-07-02 23:31:00
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babymad wrote:

Hi there, I have a NZ 1933 Threepence and 1955 Sixpence and an 1896 (British?) Penny...
Where is the best place to find out if they are worth anything? I know nothing about collecting coins or if they are worth anything or not. Thanks in advance

Posting pix in here would be a help. If unsure how to do that, upload photos to "My Photos" under "My Trade Me", then get the actual image in front of you. Cut and paste the link in here. Someone will doubtless be able to offer some guidance.

This site is also handy:
http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

echoriath - 2014-07-02 23:33:00
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Going to be in the big smoke [AK] on a rare visit.
Is there somewhere I can cash in a few bags
of obsolete coins. 2c, 5c, 10c shillings, florens etc?
I think its at the reserve bank in Wellington but is there an Auckland option.

thanks

dutchess46 - 2014-07-03 15:16:00
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dutchess46 wrote:

Going to be in the big smoke [AK] on a rare visit.
Is there somewhere I can cash in a few bags
of obsolete coins. 2c, 5c, 10c shillings, florens etc?
I think its at the reserve bank in Wellington but is there an Auckland option.

thanks

What is aprox face value and are they circulated or unciculated?

gammoner - 2014-07-03 16:52:00
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circulated, 5c x400gms, 10c x 400 gms 20c x300gms. saves counting for now if that helps.

dutchess46 - 2014-07-03 17:55:00
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dutchess46 wrote:

circulated, 5c x400gms, 10c x 400 gms 20c x300gms. saves counting for now if that helps.

Yes, can exchange for face value at Reserve Bank in Wgtn only I believe and in person. Probably will achieve as well by listing them here on TM with no parking fees, travel etc. All the best,Alan

gammoner - 2014-07-03 18:15:00
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half/hundy

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chefman1 - 2014-07-03 18:26:00
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