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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

gammoner - 2014-05-22 19:50:00
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gammoner wrote:

One Hundy

lol...good one alan

chefman1 - 2014-05-22 20:20:00
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chefman1 wrote:

lol...good one alan


Next milestone the big 4000

gammoner - 2014-05-22 20:23:00
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alpha111 wrote:

1895 USA EXPO MEDAL TO: WESTS DISINFECTING CO.
Winning bid: $755.00 Reserve $100 Closed: Thu 22 May 2014, 4:47 pmListing #: 7297831
A great battle to watch ....

don...wrong listing number's...i can not see the auction???
found it now [Listing #: 729783146]

Edited by chefman1 at 9:14 pm, Thu 22 May

chefman1 - 2014-05-22 21:11:00
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anyone have any idea what a columbia farthing is worth?

soundsie1 - 2014-05-23 08:26:00
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soundsie1 wrote:

anyone have any idea what a columbia farthing is worth?

No, but they're quite common - and quite mysterious items. Google them for more info if you haven't already. No-one quite knows where they were made or why, except maybe as "evasion" issues to be passed off as real farthings. Certainly no connection with the country of ColOmbia, as some have surmised.

translateltd - 2014-05-23 09:03:00
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translateltd wrote:


Certainly no connection with the country of ColOmbia, as some have surmised.

Some people give a Canadian attribution as in British Columbia. (?). Anyway there are some of these farthings listed on that international auction site

alpha111 - 2014-05-23 12:44:00
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alpha111 wrote:

Some people give a Canadian attribution as in British Columbia. (?). Anyway there are some of these farthings listed on that international auction site

The style is 1820s-30s, though exact date is uncertain. I don't think the Canadian province got its name till the late 1850s, so I'm a bit doubtful on that score.

translateltd - 2014-05-23 14:13:00
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There are lots of varieties described and illustrated here: http://www.aboutfarthings.co.uk/Columbia%20Farthings.html

translateltd - 2014-05-23 14:15:00
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alpha111 wrote:

[chrisr5] You are up far too early at 3.53 am this glorious Wednesday.

That's night shifts for you!

alpha111 wrote:

We both won a 1992S Silver Premier Proof set on Sunday (alpha111 at 12.02 pm and Chris5 at 12.31 pm) but there is only one set so it has been decided that you will have it. Cheers.

I see, by rights it's yours and there was no mention of ceding it, sorry about that. If you still want it I'm sure we can come to some arrangement, otherwise I will feel guilty about having unwittingly purloined your prize.

chrisr5 - 2014-05-23 14:56:00
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Hi Chris
There is no problem as I obtained something else in its place and I am very happy with my choice. Did night shifts for a while and it allowed the opportunity to go to auctions in the daytime (before trademe).
Enjoy your item.

alpha111 - 2014-05-23 16:57:00
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oldecurb - 2014-05-23 23:04:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Oh Tim, Tim, Tim!!!

Whose bottom? lol

A Button shaped Bottom lol

gammoner - 2014-05-23 23:06:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Oh Tim, Tim, Tim!!!

Whose bottom? lol

Whoever's you like!!

Or press the BUTTON halfway.

echoriath - 2014-05-23 23:13:00
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alpha111 wrote:

Hi Chris
There is no problem as I obtained something else in its place and I am very happy with my choice. Did night shifts for a while and it allowed the opportunity to go to auctions in the daytime (before trademe).
Enjoy your item.

Excellent, glad you're happy and a mystery price from Mowbray's to boot!

chrisr5 - 2014-05-24 14:36:00
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Scrimie thinks there might be a fake 2 1/2 dollar coin for sale on here, but I grew up in the NUIETED SATASE OF AEMRICA, and I know my history. The NSA were victorious against the Tribish in the year 6177 in pursuit of libertf

echoriath - 2014-05-24 16:47:00
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echoriath wrote:

Scrimie thinks there might be a fake 2 1/2 dollar coin for sale on here, but I grew up in the NUIETED SATASE OF AEMRICA, and I know my history. The NSA were victorious against the Tribish in the year 6177 in pursuit of libertf

Bloody Naciremas!

Edited by chrisr5 at 5:01 pm, Sat 24 May

chrisr5 - 2014-05-24 17:01:00
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Interesting auction for a copy of a new zealand coin 730686331 . seller has a number of copied coins for sale my issue with these is what happens when someone buys them and resells them claiming to be original

mudeki - 2014-05-24 20:31:00
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mudeki wrote:

Interesting auction for a copy of a new zealand coin 730686331 . seller has a number of copied coins for sale my issue with these is what happens when someone buys them and resells them claiming to be original


Got these listings pulled last week as they are not stamped copy or replica and as such are counterfiet currency . Imagine if it was a $20 note etc,do you think it would be now allowed to be relisted just because the seller now states it is a copy only.

gammoner - 2014-05-24 21:53:00
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gammoner wrote:


Got these listings pulled last week as they are not stamped copy or replica and as such are counterfiet currency . Imagine if it was a $20 note etc,do you think it would be now allowed to be relisted just because the seller now states it is a copy only.

Thats annoying whats the bet the notes listed by the same user are also fake

mudeki - 2014-05-24 22:17:00
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mudeki wrote:

Thats annoying whats the bet the notes listed by the same user are also fake

Hopefully anyone with a catalogue will check the note prices in any case :-)

translateltd - 2014-05-25 09:04:00
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i have a 1906 half penny..cant find any listed..idea of its value? thank you

flint64 - 2014-05-25 16:26:00
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flint64 wrote:

i have a 1906 half penny..cant find any listed..idea of its value? thank you

This may be as good as place as any: www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/values

translateltd - 2014-05-25 16:48:00
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Lists it and after a couple of hours -I buy it then says sorry our mistake and will not sell to me http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=733454800
quote--I am sorry if you look at our other trades we have listed one dollar reserves I am sorry but it was our mistake and we will be re-listing it properly I realize everyone is into making a dollar here and am sorry but I hope you can understand if not well place bad feedback but really im appalled nobody asked me if it was a mistake.Thank you and to reinforce what I mean please look at the candaian dollar to the new zealand dollar surely you must have realised it was a mistake?

your thoughts
cheers Don

oldman3 - 2014-05-25 19:04:00
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So is the seller saying it was accidentally listed with a $1 Buy Now?

echoriath - 2014-05-25 19:17:00
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oldman3 wrote:


your thoughts
cheers Don

I'm with you in spirit but as I understand the law, if it's obvious a vendor has made a mistake - he presumably didn't intend to put a $1 buy now on this lot - then he's entitled to cancel. I saw an after-closing offer of a Rolls-Royce a few years ago for $30, when $30k was probably what the vendor intended - would have been nice to try to fight but it wouldn't have stood up.

Edited by translateltd at 7:19 pm, Sun 25 May

translateltd - 2014-05-25 19:18:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/317817231.jpg

One for the more seasoned players - a "Shanghai Special" that I was asked to look at recently. The weight is a bit low, the colouring and design quality not bad, but there is one glaring error - how long will it take to spot it?

translateltd - 2014-05-25 19:25:00
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translateltd wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/
full/317817231.jpg

One for the more seasoned players - a "Shanghai Special" that I was asked to look at recently. The weight is a bit low, the colouring and design quality not bad, but there is one glaring error - how long will it take to spot it?

Well I had to look it up but it was the 24th year of his reign not 8th.

chrisr5 - 2014-05-25 19:35:00
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oldman3 wrote:


your thoughts
cheers Don


My thoughts are you won the item and I have placed a question on the relisted item.
I know someone else cancelled their $1 reserve coin listings before close the other week because he considered these did not reach a high enough
amount.
What's the point of having these if you don't honour them?

alpha111 - 2014-05-25 19:39:00
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It took him 10 hours to tell me, so I have jumped up and down a few times then said stuff it---next

oldman3 - 2014-05-25 19:40:00
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translateltd wrote:

I'm with you in spirit but as I understand the law, if it's obvious a vendor has made a mistake - he presumably didn't intend to put a $1 buy now on this lot - then he's entitled to cancel. I saw an after-closing offer of a Rolls-Royce a few years ago for $30, when $30k was probably what the vendor intended - would have been nice to try to fight but it wouldn't have stood up.

Never mind I have had a win this week http://www.aboutfarthings.co.uk/Lauer%20Model%20Farthings.ht
ml
9H is mine and photo to come.
cheers Don

oldman3 - 2014-05-25 19:55:00
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photo https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/317824422.jpg
--note the G in farthing and both Rs and Hs as they look like R over B and H over B
cheers Don

oldman3 - 2014-05-25 20:10:00
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I cannot believe so many people are buying these fake souvenir (low weight) coins on trademe at the moment for 3-20 times the price you can buy them online from china where they are made. Even worse shipping is free from china yet in nz you also have to pay postage haha. I hate the fact they are for sale on trademe they are reproductions made to deceive real collectors even as space fillers these are illegal to own as they do not identify that they are a reproduction. Other auction sites require the coins to be stamped with the word copy or reproduction on each side of the coin. If you want to buy them from overseas that is up to you but please do not sell them to others or buy them from people trying to make easy money. The more they sell the more they will order next time.

Edited by mudeki at 11:31 pm, Sun 25 May

mudeki - 2014-05-25 23:19:00
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mudeki wrote:

I cannot believe so many people are buying these fake souvenir (low weight) coins on trademe at the moment for 3-20 times the price you can buy them online from china where they are made. Even worse shipping is free from china yet in nz you also have to pay postage haha. I hate the fact they are for sale on trademe they are reproductions made to deceive real collectors even as space fillers these a illegal to own as they do not identify that they are a reproduction. Other auction sites require the coins to be stamped with the word copy or reproduction on each side of the coin. If you want to buy them from overseas that is up to you but please do not sell them to others or buy them from people trying to make easy money. The more they sell the more they will order next time.

I reported these relisted auctions again with that same info to TM over 24hrs ago, yet to have any reply. These are counterfiet currency except for the 1896 Morgan which is clearly stamped 100 Mills .999 fine gold.

gammoner - 2014-05-25 23:31:00
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gammoner wrote:

I reported these relisted auctions again with that same info to TM over 24hrs ago, yet to have any reply. These are counterfiet currency except for the 1896 Morgan which is clearly stamped 100 Mills .999 fine gold.

Yea i reported a heap yesterday and put them in my watchlist yet people are still clicking the buy now option. I am really interested in the NZ coin that was sold last night will give trademe a call tomorrow as i am interested in a response to them allowing the sale of counterfeit currency as I was told today even being a larger size they are still legal tender.

mudeki - 2014-05-25 23:39:00
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As we are all aware (??) a large number of changes to the Consumer Guarantees Act come into effect on June 17 2014.
Consumers will acquire enhanced rights when they buy goods or services online from a business including when they bid on online auctions such as Trademe.
If the business agrees to deliver the goods it will be responsible for making sure the goods arrive on time and in good condition. There will be no passing the matter off to the courier company. It will be up to the trader to seek redress from the courier company not the purchaser.
Traders on TM will also have to identify themselves as such.
Businesses will not be permitted to make unsubstantiated claims about a product.
These are matters that have been discussed on this thread recently.
It will indeed be interesting to see how the law will be applied.
Of course nobody will be a business!!

alpha111 - 2014-05-26 16:40:00
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Shall we take bets as to whether there'll be a mass mailout from TM sometime before 17 June to tell us all of the changes?

translateltd - 2014-05-26 18:15:00
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Then again, if it's applied as rigorously as the Second-Hand Dealers' Act, it will be "business" as usual.

translateltd - 2014-05-26 18:17:00
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translateltd wrote:

Then again, if it's applied as rigorously as the Second-Hand Dealers' Act, it will be "business" as usual.


Most probably.

alpha111 - 2014-05-26 18:42:00
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Souvenir Of This Show Medallion Listing #: 731886968

While I have one and have seen a few nobody has been able to tell me where/when these were made and issued. Any ideas anyone?

alpha111 - 2014-05-27 08:50:00
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has anyone had experience with YouShop importing coins from the USA? Or in my case, Canada. I bought some Canadian coins from an ebay seller in Canada. Had them shipped to the YouShop warehouse in USA, then to me. Problem was when I received them about half were missing. I contacted NZ post. They said that the USA team open all parcels and inspect them for customs declaration purposes. However they could not verify whether the full contents was present when they opened my parcel. They suggested I should contact the seller. I probably could, and the way ebay works they'd probably force the seller to refund. I'd then no doubt be blacklisted. The coins were in plastic pockets, sello-taped on the inside of a piece of thin card, which was then folded over. There was the remnants of tape still on the card, where the missing coins could easily have been. So I'm inclined to believe the seller did include them. Any thoughts on this complicated situation would be appreciated. Thanks.

Edited by dtpapa at 8:05 pm, Wed 28 May

dtpapa - 2014-05-28 20:04:00
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rapid200sx - 2014-05-28 20:08:00
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Well, yeah, that thought did cross my mind, but I didn't want to say it directly to the NZ post customer service rep. Maybe I should kick up a bit of a fuss about it then? Is it my problem, or NZ post's?

dtpapa - 2014-05-28 20:58:00
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Since coins are technically illegal to post, any tampering by light-fingered postal or Customs staff is something we're stuck with. You might have a claim if the parcel was registered or insured, but otherwise it's unlikely.

translateltd - 2014-05-28 22:14:00
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Are you sure about that? I suspect it is illegal to post currency, but I don't think that could sensibly be applied to collectible numismatic items. If it does apply, then it is knowingly, and flagrantly being ignored by NZ post. I've imported numerous such items via YouShop.

dtpapa - 2014-05-28 23:17:00
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The nzpost policies are in place to cover almost anything that is posted except a letter.

Prohibited items include, but are not limited to: These are the last 4 point in a long list
"travellers cheques, deeds, negotiable instruments (including any bearer security, bill of exchange or uncrossed cheque), bonds or shares, credit or bank cards, cash, currency, bullion or vouchers, gift cards, or tickets for any games of chance (such as raffle and lottery tickets)
jewellery, watches, precious metals or stones*
collectibles, antiques, paintings, sculptures or works of art*
unused stamps*.

I had to look at this last week as a customer at the bank claimed we are not allowed to post him his credit card turns out he was correct lol.

As translateltd pointed out if its international and you pay for additional compensation cover they may cover it

nzpost site
http://www.nzpost.co.nz/home/sending-within-nz/compensation-
prohibited-items#restricted-items

mudeki - 2014-05-29 10:09:00
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It is illegal in most countries, sadly. I was part of a group from the RNSNZ that negotiated with NZ Post the right to post coins overseas subject to certain conditions a few years ago; that part was arranged (though it is subject to review at any time) but they would not adjust the rules for domestic post. Anything "prohibited" that you send domestically or not in accordance with the international guidelines is at your own risk and not liable to any compensation. The fact that NZ Post itself does it was raised, but not taken into consideration :-) Incoming consignments are subject to the rules of the consigning country, as I understand it, and are still considered "prohibited" here when it comes to compensation for losses. They'll still charge you GST on import if the value is high enough!

translateltd - 2014-05-29 10:21:00
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So, what is the rationale behind this prohibition on posting coins of a collectible nature?

dtpapa - 2014-05-29 10:32:00
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dtpapa wrote:

So, what is the rationale behind this prohibition on posting coins of a collectible nature?

The dorks are under the impression that if people start posting coins then the posties are likely to be mugged and robbed for their mail.

wasgonna - 2014-05-29 10:45:00
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translateltd wrote:

It is illegal in most countries, sadly. I was part of a group from the RNSNZ that negotiated with NZ Post the right to post coins overseas subject to certain conditions a few years ago; that part was arranged (though it is subject to review at any time) but they would not adjust the rules for domestic post. Anything "prohibited" that you send domestically or not in accordance with the international guidelines is at your own risk and not liable to any compensation. The fact that NZ Post itself does it was raised, but not taken into consideration :-) Incoming consignments are subject to the rules of the consigning country, as I understand it, and are still considered "prohibited" here when it comes to compensation for losses. They'll still charge you GST on import if the value is high enough!


Yes, The NZ Post will still mail out their orders for new released coinage

gammoner - 2014-05-29 10:53:00
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