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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies and oldbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for oldbies and newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

Edited by echoriath at 7:49 pm, Wed 7 May

echoriath - 2014-05-07 19:45:00
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spike_01 wrote:

There is a warning stating the current bid is within 15% of the reserve..

This can be a tricky business, since the seller can change the reserve to just a bit more than whatever that top bid is. So if the reserve is $100, and you go from $84 to $85, triggering the 15% warning, the seller can change the reserve to $86, and the next bidder wins.

echoriath - 2014-05-07 19:49:00
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muzz8 - 2014-05-07 20:04:00
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It cannot be lowered TO the top bid (or lower), only just above it.

echoriath - 2014-05-07 23:01:00
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Yeah wud be nice to have a overprived coin and change it while hes bidding chances of that are so slim though ud have to check yr auction as hes bidding.

myjm18 - 2014-05-08 02:35:00
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I see Echo's dearest friend has an English coin book listed at $20.00 plus $4.00 snail mail. Those who have been blacklisted can get this item from that bookshop named after Egypt's greatest river for $17.99 new with free shipping.

alpha111 - 2014-05-09 14:31:00
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You've got me beat on "Echo's dearest friend" - I clearly need to brush up on my Greek mythology!

translateltd - 2014-05-09 16:35:00
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echoriath wrote:

I do apologise to everyone (bar one) to that extent that I make this personal, but I wish to see Trade Me made a safe place for everyone, and there are the occasional select few who suffer severely from boundary issues and a basic sense of decency.

I was being deliberately obtuse, echo was an abbreviation of above poster's nom de guerre (in this instance) and friend is the (bar one) ie. NOT a friend.

Edited by alpha111 at 5:57 pm, Fri 9 May

alpha111 - 2014-05-09 17:56:00
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Nile books ??

funho1 - 2014-05-09 21:33:00
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Yes

alpha111 - 2014-05-09 22:53:00
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alpha111 wrote:

[quote=echoria-
th]I do apologise to everyone (bar one) to that extent that I make this personal, but I wish to see Trade Me made a safe place for everyone, and there are the occasional select few who suffer severely from boundary issues and a basic sense of decency.

I was being deliberately obtuse, echo was an abbreviation of above poster's nom de guerre (in this instance) and friend is the (bar one) ie. NOT a friend.

If you're not careful you'll end up there....

chrisr5 - 2014-05-09 23:33:00
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translateltd wrote:

You've-
got me beat on "Echo's dearest friend" - I clearly need to brush up on my Greek mythology![/quote
My apologies ! I am the one who needs to brush up on mythology. As an unrelated example to your response I asked a question on a Syracuse listing 723369441 but did not get a response. Is my posed attribution more likely?

alpha111 - 2014-05-09 23:38:00
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chrisr5 wrote:

If you're not careful you'll end up there....


Please explain? Where will I end up? Heaven, Hell , Limbo, Oblivion, Valhalla, Parliament ? And why?

alpha111 - 2014-05-09 23:59:00
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alpha111 wrote:


Please explain? Where will I end up? Heaven, Hell , Limbo, Oblivion, Valhalla, Parliament ? And why?

Damn, I quoted the wrong post. Echo's BFF's blacklist might grow was what I meant.

chrisr5 - 2014-05-10 00:18:00
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alpha111 wrote:

[quote=transla-
teltd]You've got me beat on "Echo's dearest friend" - I clearly need to brush up on my Greek mythology![/quote
My apologies ! I am the one who needs to brush up on mythology. As an unrelated example to your response I asked a question on a Syracuse listing 723369441 but did not get a response. Is my posed attribution more likely?

I got the river part but the first went straight over my head - and my apologies to echo***** for not recognising him :-)
Honestly no idea on the Syracuse piece - too specialised a field for me. The first thing I do when I get an "ancient" is check the board of "authentic replicas" here: www.winsociety.org/library/replicas.html for any matches, and then start hitting the catalogues/web ...

translateltd - 2014-05-10 06:34:00
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Hello all. I stumbled across a coin in my girlfriends purse when she asked me to get some change out for her. As it was so different to coins I had ever seen before I did some digging around on the interwebs and it appears to be a Gold Half Sovereign dated 1908. As it is made of 20ct gold I was wondering if it would be of value to a Collector? thanks for any replys.

dustythebroom - 2014-05-11 10:57:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/315915899.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/315915877.jpg
Hi I am sorting some coins out for the auction at the coin club I belong to , and came across this one but I can not find it in the books I have. Would anyone be able to help me identify it.
Thanks.

lester36 - 2014-05-11 12:39:00
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Listing #: 728007852 1925 australia penny.
reserve was $5,000, relisted now at $20,000 with buynow at $35,0000

Edited by chefman1 at 1:29 pm, Sun 11 May

chefman1 - 2014-05-11 13:28:00
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dustythebroom wrote:

Hello all. I stumbled across a coin in my girlfriends purse when she asked me to get some change out for her. As it was so different to coins I had ever seen before I did some digging around on the interwebs and it appears to be a Gold Half Sovereign dated 1908. As it is made of 20ct gold I was wondering if it would be of value to a Collector? thanks for any replys.

Looks like a good find :-) Weigh and measure it - it should be 20mm and 4g (rounded). If you post pics of each side, too, it will give people an idea of condition as well as any indications that it may be a copy (always a risk).

translateltd - 2014-05-11 17:30:00
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lester36 wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full
/315915899.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/315915877.jpg
Hi I am sorting some coins out for the auction at the coin club I belong to , and came across this one but I can not find it in the books I have. Would anyone be able to help me identify it.
Thanks.

It looks to be a commemorative medal. Date is Meiji 41 (1908) and commemorating the 5th National Manufactured Products Exhibition in Kyoto, according to the side with the flag on it. There may be a slightly different official translation but that's the idea, anyway. The archaic-style characters on the other side don't lend themselves to quick reading, unfortunately.

Edited by translateltd at 5:34 pm, Sun 11 May

translateltd - 2014-05-11 17:33:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Listing #: 728007852 1925 australia penny.
reserve was $5,000, relisted now at $20,000 with buynow at $35,0000

"Mint state choice", too. Shame he didn't photograph that one.

translateltd - 2014-05-11 17:36:00
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muzz8 - 2014-05-11 18:36:00
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translateltd wrote:

It looks to be a commemorative medal. Date is Meiji 41 (1908) and commemorating the 5th National Manufactured Products Exhibition in Kyoto, according to the side with the flag on it. There may be a slightly different official translation but that's the idea, anyway. The archaic-style characters on the other side don't lend themselves to quick reading, unfortunately.

Thanks Martin

lester36 - 2014-05-11 19:11:00
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1986-1987-1988 are all without the xtra rope

chefman1 - 2014-05-11 19:22:00
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muzz8 - 2014-05-11 19:33:00
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mudeki reported the two varieties of 50c reverse occurring in the 1984 unc. sets recently, which was a surprise. I hadn't heard of other years in between with both varieties, though.

translateltd - 2014-05-11 20:04:00
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I think I have most of the differences between sets and circulating listed. the hard job some times is identifying if it is cut from a set or not key differences in the date. Have alook at the site the way to tell for 1987 is the 7 is different between the two different mints

Edited by mudeki at 8:21 pm, Sun 11 May

mudeki - 2014-05-11 20:19:00
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Are there any 1998 $2 NZ in circulation, if not why not as the catalogue say's that over 6 million were issued?

6wfbus - 2014-05-11 22:15:00
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6wfbus wrote:

Are there any 1998 $2 NZ in circulation, if not why not as the catalogue say's that over 6 million were issued?

Yes, heaps. We possibly see more of the recent issues (plus 1990, because of the very large mintage that year), but 1998s are definitely around.

translateltd - 2014-05-11 22:18:00
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6wfbus wrote:

Are there any 1998 $2 NZ in circulation, if not why not as the catalogue say's that over 6 million were issued?

Yea there are still heaps around someone jokingly said to me last week if you are looking for a particular $2 coin (except 1997) go to the local pokies put a note in and cash out the coins then put the coins in and cash out again might take awhile but wont annoy the bank staff haha

there is also a couple of errors on the 1998 coin with the beak and feet touching the rim
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/315999000.jpg

mudeki - 2014-05-11 22:49:00
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In regards to the missing rope I would not be surprised if there are other years it is missing. I shared with translateltd a few weeks ago that the 1967 decimal coinage commemorative MM 1967/3 designed by J Berry and was constructed by using coin models and dies held by the Royal Mint in London also shows the 50 cent coin without the rope. There are a few other differences that appear between the coins and the commemorative but all the other rigging on the 50 cent appears to be there. To me it seems to much of a coincidence that the same rope disappears. I also speculate the fact it disappears in 1984 after not having coins circulated in 1983 and the mints may have gone back to the original model or dies but who really knows
Coin
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/315997544.jpg
Commemorative
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/315997595.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/315997569.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/315997655.jpg

mudeki - 2014-05-11 22:57:00
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muzz8 - 2014-05-12 00:47:00
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muzz8 - 2014-05-12 00:49:00
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mudeki wrote:

In regards to the missing rope I would not be surprised if there are other years it is missing. I shared with translateltd a few weeks ago that the 1967 decimal coinage commemorative MM 1967/3 designed by J Berry and was constructed by using coin models and dies held by the Royal Mint in London also shows the 50 cent coin without the rope. There are a few other differences that appear between the coins and the commemorative but all the other rigging on the 50 cent appears to be there. To me it seems to much of a coincidence that the same rope disappears. I also speculate the fact it disappears in 1984 after not having coins circulated in 1983 and the mints may have gone back to the original model or dies but who really knows

I haven't checked the full list of diagnostics, but does the die used on the medal match the "no rope" type in the various other respects, too? Wondering if there are two "original masters" dating back to 1967, only one of which was used with any regularity and the other pressed into use only occasionally.

translateltd - 2014-05-12 08:39:00
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I had a look late last night to check that and the cloud is more defined but looks almost doubled on the commemorative as it goes further across Mt Taranaki. The Initials JB look to be the smaller although half is cut of due to the position of the 20 cent. The only other place to check would have been the main rope but the ropes (and other detail) on the commemorative appear thicker. Could this be because the depth of the commemorative is thicker as the detail at the high points looks the same then seems to spread out ?

It does still seem odd that 5 years after James Berry Died the design of the coins changed to missing rope yet he designed the 1967 commemorative without that rope and the original coins with the rope

mudeki - 2014-05-12 09:35:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316020930.jpg

mudeki...which is the right one on the 1969 50 cent coin ...endeavour or queens side,if i turn the queens one to the endeavour side the letting is up side down??
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316021952.jpg

Edited by chefman1 at 10:46 am, Mon 12 May

chefman1 - 2014-05-12 10:41:00
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I don't think there is a right or wrong way of the inscribed edge. I am not sure how they even do different edges to be honest but i assume these would have been done after the design was pressed. I looked at my inscribed coins a few weeks ago to get photos for the site and they all appear to have it upside down on some coins. I personally prefer it to be like the top coin in the fist photo that way you can read it without turning it over in a collection

If anyone has a link or reference to detailed information on how they make different edges i would love to know

mudeki - 2014-05-12 11:11:00
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I understand that the edges are done first, and then the edge-inscribed blanks are struck, so you have a 50/50 chance of getting them either way up. When the Isle of Man did a 7-sided 50p with an inscribed edge a few years ago, they said there were 14 possible permutations for the edge inscription - either way up, and starting on any of the seven flattish faces making up the edge.

translateltd - 2014-05-12 11:13:00
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dustythebroom wrote:

Hello all. I stumbled across a coin in my girlfriends purse when she asked me to get some change out for her. As it was so different to coins I had ever seen before I did some digging around on the interwebs and it appears to be a Gold Half Sovereign dated 1908. As it is made of 20ct gold I was wondering if it would be of value to a Collector? thanks for any replys.

Just put "gold half sovereign" in search bar here. There is one 1908.

wasgonna - 2014-05-12 12:01:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316036411.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316036490.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316037874.jpg

found this on a 2003-2002-1999 5c coins...i think its a die clash?,but i could be wrong

Edited by chefman1 at 12:47 pm, Mon 12 May

chefman1 - 2014-05-12 12:43:00
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chefman1 wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full
/316036411.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316036490.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316037874.jpg

found this on a 2003-2002-1999 5c coins...i think its a die clash?,but i could be wrong

Looks like some nice die clash errors to me good spotting

mudeki - 2014-05-12 15:15:00
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Found some 2010 $1 this weekend with similar errors to the 1999 oil filled die 5 cent it starts at the bottom of the Queens portrait and makes its way progressively higher . The die is one that also produced the goatee error as all these coins have it.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316057860.jpg

Looks like the die also got a bit of metal stuck in it as I have 6 coins all with similar impressions.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316057944.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316058023.jpg

mudeki - 2014-05-12 15:28:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316204659.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316204395.jpg

Does this coin look like its double stamp, found it today

chefman1 - 2014-05-13 16:44:00
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chefman1 wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full
/316204659.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316204395.jpg

Does this coin look like its double stamp, found it today

Not sure, as the line by the 5 goes all the way round - if it was doubling I would have expected an offset/shadow just to one side.

translateltd - 2014-05-13 21:53:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316246961.jpg
This is a 5 cent with large cud on the side of the 5.
Sorry not to clear , 1999 I have several with the same error ? on the 5.

lester36 - 2014-05-13 22:03:00
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chefman1 wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full
/316204659.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/316204395.jpg

Does this coin look like its double stamp, found it today

I would have to side with translateltd on that but have you just found the one or multiple coins in that year with the outline?

mudeki - 2014-05-13 22:28:00
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lester36 wrote:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full
/316246961.jpg

This is a 5 cent with large cud on the side of the 5.
Sorry not to clear , 1999 I have several with the same error ? on the 5.

Nice find lester

mudeki - 2014-05-13 22:33:00
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oldecurb - 2014-05-13 22:44:00
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oldecurb wrote:

Error coins...boring, boring, boring. Yawn

just like you bruce ...boring ...boring...yawn ...got to bed if you are tired ..yawn

chefman1 - 2014-05-13 22:55:00
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100 ...hundy

chefman1 - 2014-05-13 22:55:00
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