re Fiji Jubilee.
Stanley Gibbons catalogues this at about $1 mint and $2.50 used.

phil.s - 2011-12-30 12:44:00

I actually have unused sheets (60 per sheet) of these stamps. Does anyone know whether that is more valuable?

bel55 - 2011-12-30 21:30:00

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donaldo - 2011-12-31 11:22:00

Question: I am missing the Singapore stamps from the set of 1946 Victory Stamps - what do they look like - are they actually Malay-Singapore stamps?? Also, does Fiji have a standard coconut tree FDC like other islands with the 1946 set?

akaroa - 2011-12-31 16:39:00

Just realised that I don't have the Malays victory ones either - what do they look like?

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donaldo - 2012-01-02 11:57:00

Stanley Gibbons catalogue states that Victory stamps for the Malayan Union and Singapore were prepared in 1946 but not issued.
Malaya was occupied by the Japanese from 1942 to 1945.

phil.s - 2012-01-02 14:31:00

Thanks guys. I am about to put back up an empty Savoy Victory Album which has pages for both Singapore and Malay and the stamps listed to be stuck on those pages. So I felt sure there must have been sets for them. But if they weren't issued, it looks like I have the complete set then.

akaroa - 2012-01-02 14:38:00

New topic... Stamps on TradeMe are FRUSTRATING me. It seems to be the dumping ground of cheap stuff in bulk. No offence meant, but I am more and more switching to places like NZ Covers, Stamp Company etc for buying (these ones have clear websites for viewing and purchasing). Lots of others you can't view online what they are selling - you take it by trust or you request a scan. That is just hopeless. Here's what I'm finding on ebay and other alternative sites of interest to me, as I slowly wean off TradeMe as my main site for buying:

(a) NZ Cinderellas, particularly pre-1970 (but not tb and st john - are heaps of these being sold). Some dealers have amazing lists of them - why the heck aren't these up on TradeMe??!!!
(b) Unusual international war cinderellas - particulaly WW2.
(c) Other cinderellas rarely seen on TradeMe such as 'Prohibition' labels.
(d) Rare covers, signed covers (but not military), and odd ones (such as phone card covers) between the prices of $15 and $45. TradeMe is not too bad for some of these but there are lots more of these in auctions and stamp dealer sites than come up on TradeMe.
(e) I can't find hardly anything collectible up on TradeMe on events / NZ history - such as anti-nuclear, anti-war-Vietnam, Erebus, HART, CARE etc etc. depression, unions, prohibition.
(f) War photos and posters - sick to death of looking at 'modern reproductions'. Will TradeMe please ban these!

akaroa - 2012-01-02 14:54:00

Cinderella & her sisters mite still be on holiday for few more weeks yet.. thort about that ? ;-)

tmg - 2012-01-02 21:47:00

tmg wrote:

Cinderella & her sisters mite still be on holiday for few more weeks yet.. thort about that ? ;-)

Yeah, but I'm on holiday now and all flushed with coins from the Christmas pud.

akaroa - 2012-01-02 23:42:00

akaroa wrote:

Yeah, but I'm on holiday now and all flushed with coins from the Christmas pud.

Ya do realise that as time goes on, Cinderella & her sisters are likely to have far more of the newer bits & proportionately less of the older ones, unless Post & some of the other outfits sneakily decide to reprint some of the earlier jobs.. ? ;-)

tmg - 2012-01-03 03:24:00

tmg wrote:

Ya do realise that as time goes on, Cinderella & her sisters are likely to have far more of the newer bits & proportionately less of the older ones, unless Post & some of the other outfits sneakily decide to reprint some of the earlier jobs.. ? ;-)

Indeed. But there are still a surprising number out there of pre-1960 cinderellas. What stumps me are the fuzzy edges between a sticker and a cinderella. There is a 'newly discovered' cinderella (Taihape motors) selling for around the $300 mark. Danged if I can't tell whether this is an advertising sticker or a 'cinderella'. Maybe that distinction just exists in my mind (and yes, it is a scary place in there).

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muzz8 - 2012-01-04 09:23:00

muzz8 wrote:

Auckland-Chch- Dunedin exhibition
does anyone know why Auckland exhibition ended up with a shabby o/p for there stamp issue(1913) yet real effort was made with Chch (1906) and Dunedin (1925)-Asked a local dealer yesterday but he did not know
almost like they left it to late to organise a issue -and just overprinted surplus Edwards

Well Murray you have really answered your own question in a blatantly obvious way..If you want things done properly get it done the South Island.

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muzz8 - 2012-01-04 12:08:00

muzz8 wrote:

Auckland-Chch- Dunedin exhibition
does anyone know why Auckland exhibition ended up with a shabby o/p for there stamp issue(1913) yet real effort was made with Chch (1906) and Dunedin (1925)-Asked a local dealer yesterday but he did not know
almost like they left it to late to organise a issue -and just overprinted surplus Edwards

Yes, Paul is right. the Aucklanders left it too late to get a proper set printed and issued. remember that our stamps were being printed in the UK in those days while an overprint could be done quickly in Wellington by the Government Printer. Actually the overprinting was done on sheets of stamps which had been put aside by the printer as "seconds" because of their poor centering as far as perforating went. that is why many Auckland exhibition stamps are poorly centered.

kiwisteven - 2012-01-05 00:32:00

akaroa wrote:

Indeed. But there are still a surprising number out there of pre-1960 cinderellas. What stumps me are the fuzzy edges between a sticker and a cinderella. There is a 'newly discovered' cinderella (Taihape motors) selling for around the $300 mark. Danged if I can't tell whether this is an advertising sticker or a 'cinderella'. Maybe that distinction just exists in my mind (and yes, it is a scary place in there).

My distinction of being a cinderella is that it must have been issued or widely used on envelopes to go thru the mail. The postal rules normally insisted that they went on the back but often placed on the top left or bottom left of an envelope was acceptable.
I have certainly seen some advertising labels which I think were intended to be stuck on bottles, boxes or tins which have been advertised as Cinderellas by some dealers. You tend to get a feel for what is a cinderella but the old rule of being issued for use on an envelope always works for me.

kiwisteven - 2012-01-05 00:37:00

kiwisteven wrote:

My distinction of being a cinderella is that it must have been issued or widely used on envelopes to go thru the mail. The postal rules normally insisted that they went on the back but often placed on the top left or bottom left of an envelope was acceptable.
I have certainly seen some advertising labels which I think were intended to be stuck on bottles, boxes or tins which have been advertised as Cinderellas by some dealers. You tend to get a feel for what is a cinderella but the old rule of being issued for use on an envelope always works for me.

Yeah, that is a good rule of thumb. Slight change of topic: hand-drawn / illustrated covers. Is it just curiosity value that makes these go so high in value? It sure aint the quality of the hand-drawn artwork. On the strength of this, I've had a cunning plan. I'm intending to commission artists in the area I live in, to illustrate a series of covers of the area - keep the originals and print for sale copies. Surely they would become sought after items?

akaroa - 2012-01-06 00:19:00

An interesting 'rarity' 436758396 .. well maybe the invisible may or may not agree .. ;-)

tmg - 2012-01-08 12:42:00

tmg wrote:

An interesting 'rarity' 436758396 .. well maybe the invisible may or may not agree .. ;-)

mine is mint unhinged :) wonder if seller would give me that amount + gst :) for it ;my old acs book give it a price of .50c (1950 provisional)

gandalff4 - 2012-01-08 13:56:00

tmg wrote:

An interesting 'rarity' 436758396 .. well maybe the invisible may or may not agree .. ;-)

There are 7 unanswered questions on this auction, including mine. Will wait for an answer.

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donaldo - 2012-01-08 16:01:00

donaldo wrote:

did you think about reporting it to trademw as being a common 1950 stamp

"This auction was withdrawn by the seller before the expiry date."

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donaldo - 2012-01-08 17:11:00

donaldo wrote:

did you think about reporting it to trademw as being a common 1950 stamp

I did, but wanted to see an explanation. That aside, is this wrong to sell like this? If I put up a 1950 stamp for $200 and there is a willing buyer, then is that wrong on TradeMe? It must happen on all sorts of other categories.

And then there's that guy selling his stamp collection for $20,000 (or whatever), and it's clearly not worth more than a thousand odd.

akaroa - 2012-01-08 18:05:00

donaldo wrote:

been there --done that --and alas im still a beggar

Lol!! Well, I've bought your indemnity ones in the past - I still think they're pretty cool. Mind you, when you put in some of those free cinderellas, I reckon I got back more value than I paid you for.

akaroa - 2012-01-08 18:07:00

gandalff4 wrote:

mine is mint unhinged :) wonder if seller would give me that amount + gst :) for it ;my old acs book give it a price of .50c (1950 provisional)

mite have been unhinged at the time it went up, ya reckon ? ;-)

tmg - 2012-01-08 20:59:00

tmg wrote:

mite have been unhinged at the time it went up, ya reckon ? ;-)

the seller is that way inclined, as would be anyone who thinks its a bargain "rear item " :)

gandalff4 - 2012-01-08 21:12:00

I am clearing out my partners mothers house (shes passed on) but it looks like she collected stamps at one stage.
I have no idea about stamps and what makes a good one or a bad one, whether the collection is crap or what. Rather than just throw them in the bin do you think its worth listing the lot on TM with $1 reserve, in hope that they go to a good home or am I wasting my time? Id give them away if I knew where to take them.

mccat - 2012-01-10 11:02:00

mccat wrote:

I am clearing out my partners mothers house (shes passed on) but it looks like she collected stamps at one stage.
I have no idea about stamps and what makes a good one or a bad one, whether the collection is crap or what. Rather than just throw them in the bin do you think its worth listing the lot on TM with $1 reserve, in hope that they go to a good home or am I wasting my time? Id give them away if I knew where to take them.

Don't throw them away, I'm sure they would be worth putting on Trade Me. If you have the time you could look at some expired auctions to see if some compare with yours. Generally NZ stamps do better than overseas on here. Many people used to collect stamps and I find most of the older collection don't have a lot of value but you never know your luck. Find out postage costs before you list. This will encourage bidders if they know how much they will need to pay in total.

stak - 2012-01-10 11:16:00

do not toss them !! please !! could be a gem among them i/or others are looking for
ring clasic stamps in ph book, he can appraise if you want ,other wise list with photos and see where they go
look fwd to seeing your reply :)

gandalff4 - 2012-01-10 12:32:00

mccat wrote:

I am clearing out my partners mothers house (shes passed on) but it looks like she collected stamps at one stage.
I have no idea about stamps and what makes a good one or a bad one, whether the collection is crap or what. Rather than just throw them in the bin do you think its worth listing the lot on TM with $1 reserve, in hope that they go to a good home or am I wasting my time? Id give them away if I knew where to take them.

Also collectible are envelopes with interesting stickers (labels) on them, war related, advertising etc.

akaroa - 2012-01-10 12:40:00

I wouldnt know if there was a gem amongst them or not.
Either I will find someone who wants them or list the lot on here for $1 reserve.

mccat - 2012-01-10 16:56:00

It has been suggested that I post my question in this thread so here goes.

1955 2d Maori Stamp-
I seem to remember when this stamp came out that there was a slight difference on some of these stamps. i,e, the two canoes on some were closer to the man's leg. Could someone enlighten me about this and are they of more value now than the others?

The stamp in the middle has a wider gap between the leg and the boats.

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/34/200917134_full.jp
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tutifruiti - 2012-01-10 21:17:00

mccat wrote:

I wouldnt know if there was a gem amongst them or not.
Either I will find someone who wants them or list the lot on here for $1 reserve.

would love to take them off your hands, rather than see them tossed in a trash can (but happy to bid if you want to put up auction and photos)

gandalff4 - 2012-01-11 10:13:00

The figure on the middle stamp is shifted slightly to the left compared to the figure on the other two stamps.
Shifts aren't uncommon.
I don't know if the shift is good enough to make the stamp more valuable.

phil.s - 2012-01-11 12:42:00

gandalff4, you are welcome to them.
Once I have unpacked the other boxes and found the rest of the collection, Im happy for you to have them.

mccat - 2012-01-11 12:47:00

phil.s wrote:

The figure on the middle stamp is shifted slightly to the left compared to the figure on the other two stamps.
Shifts aren't uncommon.
I don't know if the shift is good enough to make the stamp more valuable.

Thank you for that information. I seem to remember at the time there was a lot of publicity about the difference which I can't understand why, if it was quite normal occurrance.

tutifruiti - 2012-01-11 16:45:00

thank you Mccat :) that would be very generous of you .
i have a niece who i can get started on her own collection ,she spends a lot of time asking questions a bout some of my bits & odds

gandalff4 - 2012-01-13 09:57:00

Hi All,

I'm new to stamps, can anyone explain what 'hinged' means?

My father-in-law has given my son (19m old) some old stamps, so I've been looking at them, and don't know all the terms.

It seems one of the stamps he gave is quite expensive (well, $200 ish), something about 1953 (i think) over-stamped.

thedigger - 2012-01-13 15:27:00

thedigger wrote:

Hi All,

I'm new to stamps, can anyone explain what 'hinged' means?

My father-in-law has given my son (19m old) some old stamps, so I've been looking at them, and don't know all the terms.

It seems one of the stamps he gave is quite expensive (well, $200 ish), something about 1953 (i think) over-stamped.

Hinged means that the stamp has been fixed in an album with a small thin paper hinge. These have gum on them that you moisten to make them stick. Most old albums used this method of display. It's not usually a problem if the stamps are used but if the stamps are mint (not used with the gum on the back) the hinge damages the gum and lessens the stamp value. Be very careful if removing hinged stamps from an album as even used stamps can have the backs damaged easily. Most people today use albums that have display strips or you can buy hingeless mounts so that the stamps won't be damaged. Great to hear that you and your son are taking an interest in stamps.

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muzz8 - 2012-01-13 18:36:00

muzz8 wrote:

just heard yesterday from NZM that they are no longer producing the regional and advertising strips--only NZ, North and South scenic strips and the Resene series
disappointing for all those that collect these,inc myself that have 100,s of them-

I just can't get into collecting these. It's funny how a collectible either takes your fancy, or you just can't get interested.

akaroa - 2012-01-13 23:18:00

akaroa wrote:

I just can't get into collecting these. It's funny how a collectible either takes your fancy, or you just can't get interested.

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They will be the collecting stamps of the future. prob. not too long away
sooo- many different, and so many issue dates. i have many thousands and still can not put a lot of sets together.
in fact not printing any more will be a bonus, as the collector base will have a "finite" lot to find
all collecting whatever it is becomes more defined and desirable
when there are no more.!
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muzz8 - 2012-01-14 06:37:00

CPS 100 National stamp show this weekend in Christchurch. The Grand Award winner with a large gold was Doug south of Wakefield (Nelson) with his thematic bird entry which is believed to be the first time a thematic entry has won the very top award at a National stamp Exhibition in New Zealand.

Runner up to the Grand Award was the large gold entry by Robin Gwynn of Napier with his fine entry of New Zealand Second Sideface Advert stamps.

kiwisteven - 2012-01-14 22:54:00