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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

chefman1 - 2014-04-30 19:01:00
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That was a bumpy ride Peter

gammoner - 2014-04-30 19:12:00
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I have quite a lot of coins and notes should I put it all on trademe for a dollar reserve and see what happens and hope it doesn't sell for just a dollar or is someone in the know of a coin person who will come round and check it out or a coin meeting so I can take my collection in to price up?

cloe8 - 2014-04-30 21:24:00
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What are the date ranges, denominations and countries of the coins? If rather varied, just pick six countries and give the date ranges for them. That will help us give better advice.

The best bet is to group them by country in quantities of five to ten. Take very good pix. Do you have a camera, and are you decent at taking photos? The easy way with a good camera is to put it on Auto. If you are more motivated, look for a flower icon that is a setting called Macro. This is specifically for the purpose of taking close-up photos. This process is easier with a tripod, though you can stabilise the camera yourself by holding the camera with both hands and placing your elbows on a flat surface above the coins. I hold the camera to my eye and rest my head against a wall. This allows me to use myself as a tripod. The only trick is finding somewhere to do it that also allows in good natural light.

It's also generally better to turn off the flash. Cameras that cost more than $100 or so (and maybe some that are less) have a remarkable number of options for taking good pix, but the main point is that good pix of both sides of your coins generally = better returns. Good pix reveal the quality of coins, whether that quality be good or bad.

echoriath - 2014-04-30 23:10:00
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muzz8 - 2014-05-01 07:22:00
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muzz8 wrote:

722952812
has anyone worked out what is going on with these listings yet- Murray

Is anyone keeping a list of suspect auction numbers and reporting them?

translateltd - 2014-05-01 08:46:00
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muzz8 wrote:

722952812
has anyone worked out what is going on with these listings yet- Murray


Think he is just pushing to find reserve and not to actually own.If it was on just one seller you would suspect something amiss but he has done the same to another 5 sellers as well.
Maybe he just likes his name up in lights.

gammoner - 2014-05-01 10:20:00
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He did the same to several of my stamp FDC auctions and a couple of other auctions of mine.
When I put up offers that were only a few dollars more than his top bid, he was nowhere to be seen and didn't respond.
Maybe someone else is using his account because this seems to be a regular occurrence.

phil.s - 2014-05-01 13:46:00
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Not a Coin, but a Brash $20 Note.. FL Series.. Worth listing?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314693255.jpg

spike_01 - 2014-05-01 15:46:00
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spike_01 wrote:

Not a Coin, but a Brash $20 Note.. FL Series.. Worth listing?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314693255.jpg[/
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Book value for a dealer selling is around the $30 in Fine grading. Doubt you will recover your listing and success fee at auction on this particular note.

gammoner - 2014-05-01 20:10:00
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gammoner wrote:


Book value for a dealer selling is around the $30 in Fine grading. Doubt you will recover your listing and success fee at auction on this particular note.

Thanks for the reply.. I thought as much..

I will use it for food or beer... lol

spike_01 - 2014-05-01 20:48:00
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spike_01 wrote:

Thanks for the reply.. I thought as much..

I will use it for food or beer... lol


Glad you seperated the purchasing power of $20 as either food or beer as pretty near impossible to obtain both lol.All the best,Alan

gammoner - 2014-05-01 22:26:00
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Strange coin? Any ideas on what this could be...it is quite thick, maybe 3-4mm but only about 1cm width.I have lightened up the pic a little because it is quite a dark patina..cheers
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313782564.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313782557.jpg

iamriff - 2014-05-01 23:55:00
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You sure it's not a old Krispie biscuit out of your lunchbox?

wasgonna - 2014-05-02 08:22:00
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iamriff wrote:

Strange coin? Any ideas on what this could be...it is quite thick, maybe 3-4mm but only about 1cm width.I have lightened up the pic a little because it is quite a dark patina..cheers
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313782564.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313782557.jpg[/
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Looks like the trace of an off-centre strike on the second pic but really no idea. You could try worldofcoins.eu and see if the assembled experts there can come up with anything. Let us know if you find out any more!

translateltd - 2014-05-02 08:44:00
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While pictures are being discussed there is one of a prominent personality on this coin thread in the May 2014 edition of the U.H.C.C. News. Congratulations Martin! Hope you enjoy the benefits (slowly). For those in other parts of the country UHCC is NOT the Upper Hutt Coin Club.

alpha111 - 2014-05-02 16:36:00
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gammoner wrote:


Think he is just pushing to find reserve and not to actually own.If it was on just one seller you would suspect something amiss but he has done the same to another 5 sellers as well.
Maybe he just likes his name up in lights.

This seems to be the case. Really it's his choice and he isn't breaking any rules, but it does give certain sellers & those new to the market false hope as to the true value of what they are trying to buy/sell. I don't really think it's fair to be bidding on things you never intended to purchase (you wouldn't do that in a real auction setting).

numismatist - 2014-05-02 17:56:00
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alpha111 wrote:

While pictures are being discussed there is one of a prominent personality on this coin thread in the May 2014 edition of the U.H.C.C. News. Congratulations Martin! Hope you enjoy the benefits (slowly). For those in other parts of the country UHCC is NOT the Upper Hutt Coin Club.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314855179.jpg

translateltd - 2014-05-02 19:00:00
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Good one******

alpha111 - 2014-05-02 20:38:00
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numismatist wrote:

I don't really think it's fair to be bidding on things you never intended to purchase (you wouldn't do that in a real auction setting).


As the subject under discussion has always paid for the items he has won in the past the comment is probably unfair (check feedback). In other words he is treating everything as a real auction.
Obviously he is bidding up to the price he is prepared to pay and NO further. Don't we all do that if we don't know the reserve?

alpha111 - 2014-05-02 20:49:00
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I have two 3d's, two florins, and one shilling pre 1946... someone will give me $8.30 for the lot... am I being taken for a ride? I have several other coins just over that age as well... may be for sale later.

charliebrown123 - 2014-05-02 21:08:00
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Can anyone with a 1941 Jefferson Nickel (US 5c) help me out with a query.

I have come across one of these that looks to have been possibly an error coin? It is misshapen though does not appear to be from any damage. And the picture of Jefferson's house appears to be transposed on other side? Or are they all like that. I will upload pics next to assist with understanding my query. Thanks!!!

massived - 2014-05-02 22:07:00
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Jefferson face side
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314873691.jpg
Coin turned over showing upside down house
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314873722.jpg
Pic showing coin from side.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314873733.jpg

massived - 2014-05-02 22:30:00
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And one more coin that I would appreciate any info on.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314873757.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314873778.jpg

massived - 2014-05-02 22:31:00
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massived wrote:

Can anyone with a 1941 Jefferson Nickel (US 5c) help me out with a query.

I have come across one of these that looks to have been possibly an error coin? It is misshapen though does not appear to be from any damage. And the picture of Jefferson's house appears to be transposed on other side? Or are they all like that. I will upload pics next to assist with understanding my query. Thanks!!!

Pics will definitely help. Errors that could be described that way do occur, particularly when one coin gets pressed, then remains in the press when the next blank comes through.

Just a hunch, but it could also be something along the lines of what we used to do as kids: putting coins on the railroad tracks. Laying them one beside the other was interesting, but stacking them partly or totally one on top of the other produced some interesting results, with a lot of impressions from one onto the other. Also, if they only got caught by half the wheel, the distortions were very strange. I'll see if I can find a photo of one.

echoriath - 2014-05-02 22:34:00
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Ah, you were posting pix while I was typing. No, that's probably not from the railroad tracks. I'm not really sure what's going on there. How about a photo just zooming in on the coin a bit more? No need for the NZ coin for scale.

echoriath - 2014-05-02 22:37:00
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charliebrown123 wrote:

I have two 3d's, two florins, and one shilling pre 1946... someone will give me $8.30 for the lot... am I being taken for a ride? I have several other coins just over that age as well... may be for sale later.

Not meaning to be cheeky, but it's a little like asking, "I have a 50 year old car, and someone's offering me $5,000 for it. Is that a good price?"

Not if it's a Shelby Fastback with original factory paint/parts.

So a lot depends on the year and condition of the coins. Posting pix will help get a better answer to the question. I'm not saying you have the coin equivalent of a Shelby, but you get the idea. Your coins will have some silver content, and they may have offered you scrap value, and that might be exactly a fair price as far as that goes.

echoriath - 2014-05-02 22:42:00
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massived wrote:

And one more coin that I would appreciate any info on.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314873757.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314873778.jpg[/
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That's a young head Victorian four pence (groat). Due to extensive wear and damage, its value is its weight in silver.

echoriath - 2014-05-02 22:44:00
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echoriath wrote:

That's a young head Victorian four pence (groat). Due to extensive wear and damage, its value is its weight in silver.

Thank you! Was struggling to identify it due to the damage. Will upload a closer pic of the Jefferson nickel now. I too at first thought it was damage but the picture on both sides is without any obvious external damage. Was wondering if it was counterfeit (but who would bother for 5c) and its got the small wartime mint mark of "S" which apparently was for San Francisco.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314875395.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314875222.jpg

Edited by massived at 11:06 pm, Fri 2 May

massived - 2014-05-02 23:01:00
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There's something a bit funny about the lettering on that nickel, even on the non-distorted part, and Jefferson's jaw line. Half wondering if it's a Chinese copy - anything is fair game, it doesn't have to be precious metal.

translateltd - 2014-05-03 08:05:00
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When I was a young fella I too put the odd 10 cent piece on the rail track , but I would put them in a cardboard cap gun cap box that was round and the same size as the coin , when they got run over the ten cent was elongated and flattened but still showed all the normal features of the coin.

lester36 - 2014-05-03 08:50:00
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Lol wasgonna, looking for an inscription on the ancient krispy that says SECUNDU KRISPII, ETIAM DEXTER or something along those lines. Its a weird one, never seen edging like that on another coin tho. Thanks translateltd will try worldofcoins see if they have seen anything similar.

iamriff - 2014-05-03 16:52:00
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massived wrote:

Thank you! Was struggling to identify it due to the damage. Will upload a closer pic of the Jefferson nickel now. I too at first thought it was damage but the picture on both sides is without any obvious external damage. Was wondering if it was counterfeit (but who would bother for 5c) and its got the small wartime mint mark of "S" which apparently was for San Francisco.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314875395.jpg
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314875222.jpg[/
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If you will permit me to "waffle on like a know all about the most trivial things", in strict technical terms, the "wartime mint mark" refers to moving the letter from beside the Jefferson memorial (like yours) to above the memorial (and making it considerably larger). This signified the change in metal to include a 35% silver content in the ones with the wartime mint mark, which is why translate mentioned that counterfeits don't need to be precious metal. Your one will be 75% copper and 25% nickel.

BTW, you are correct that the "S" stands for San Francisco. Denver has a "D". If there is no mint mark, it was (with a few exceptions) made in Philadelphia, although from about 1982, there is a "P" for Philly on coins. There are several other mint marks, but they don't come into play for circulation coins after 1909.

echoriath - 2014-05-05 01:25:00
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numismatist wrote:

This seems to be the case. Really it's his choice and he isn't breaking any rules, but it does give certain sellers & those new to the market false hope as to the true value of what they are trying to buy/sell. I don't really think it's fair to be bidding on things you never intended to purchase (you wouldn't do that in a real auction setting).

** I take it we are talking about david1469 or whatever it is, yeah all hes doing is trying to breed interest in his auctions.. Very annoying and like you say encouraging these idiots by bidding on there worthless auctions, ill never bid on 1 of his auctions because of it, I don't care how cheap it is...**

myjm18 - 2014-05-05 04:10:00
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The member deleted this message.

muzz8 - 2014-05-06 07:29:00
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muzz8 wrote:

But how would you know where to stop without placing winning bid???

There is a warning stating the current bid is within 15% of the reserve..

spike_01 - 2014-05-06 07:59:00
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muzz8 wrote:

I have overbid him on one of these auctions that he had previously put 9 bids on- and won it--so i think you are right- just establishing reserve--and nothing wrong with that i guess 722952812- But how would you know where to stop without placing winning bid???

lol....muzz8.....[The current bid is within 15% of the reserve price]... this is were he stops ok

chefman1 - 2014-05-06 08:01:00
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spike_01 wrote:

There is a warning stating the current bid is within 15% of the reserve..

morning spike_01....bugger you bet me to it..lol

chefman1 - 2014-05-06 08:02:00
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Hi Colin here, does anyone have information about NZ $2 1990 coin without the grove around the rim, think there was some chat about it quite some time ago. Thanks.

35 - 2014-05-06 12:03:00
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35 wrote:

Hi Colin here, does anyone have information about NZ $2 1990 coin without the grove around the rim, think there was some chat about it quite some time ago. Thanks.

No idea about value or how many there are around, but a number of edge errors such as this did turn up when the new coins first came out - probably early teething troubles with the new issues - I don't recall seeing or hearing of any dated later than 1991, though that doesn't mean they aren't around! They all seemed to disappear pretty quick, presumably into collections at the time.

translateltd - 2014-05-06 12:41:00
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and he's at it here also-724933594 -poor seller probably has his/her hopes up! But I'd be surprised if there are any takers at that price.

Edited by dtpapa at 1:24 pm, Tue 6 May

dtpapa - 2014-05-06 13:20:00
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dtpapa wrote:

and he's at it here also-724933594 -poor seller probably has his/her hopes up! But I'd be surprised if there are any takers at that price.


Check out the bidding steps, not over 15% at a time ,so within the 15% or reserve flag not showing, makes a safe bid higher.

gammoner - 2014-05-06 13:34:00
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At least I havn't seen yet where he has made a miscalculation and hit reserve on an auction by mistake and then asked for that bid to be removed. Just a game but certainly legit.

gammoner - 2014-05-06 13:38:00
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Need to give credit where due, at least he did try and win this recent auction, 723002583

gammoner - 2014-05-06 13:44:00
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yes he is also a genuine bidder. I think it is just the auctions that have unrealistic reserves. It might be a bit of an adrenaline rush to flirt with such high reserve prices. He could also be trolling the seller, which isn't so nice. I suppose he's also done me a favour, since any interest I would have had in that 1940 florin is gone, so I won't be wasting any unnecessary time on that auction!

Edited by dtpapa at 1:56 pm, Tue 6 May

dtpapa - 2014-05-06 13:55:00
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chefman1 wrote:

morning spike_01....bugger you bet me to it..lol

Gotta be fast around here sometimes..

spike_01 - 2014-05-06 14:55:00
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Please help.
Decimal 60's. What is pink, blue.
Is all Polished proof? In what years (60's) were proofs released in cases.
Sorry for all the questions.

makou - 2014-05-07 19:20:00
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Polished coins came out in 1967-1968-1969-1970 = blue labels
Pink labels are uncirculated coins not polished
hope that helps you out

Edited by chefman1 at 7:39 pm, Wed 7 May

chefman1 - 2014-05-07 19:29:00
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Thanks for that.
Do you think that 725315678 is the original case (plush case)?

makou - 2014-05-07 19:39:00
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pietmichau wrote:

Thanks for that.
Do you think that 725315678 is the original case (plush case)?

yes they are 1967-1968-1969-1970 all came out in plush cases

half/hundy

Edited by chefman1 at 7:49 pm, Wed 7 May

chefman1 - 2014-05-07 19:42:00
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