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| 3651 | mudeki wrote:
They look like the 1988 Type I and Type II circulation varieties - have you seen them only in the "set" coins for 1984? translateltd - 2014-04-25 17:48:00 |
| 3652 | Ooh, got the 51 without noticing. Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. translateltd - 2014-04-25 17:49:00 |
| 3653 | Yea it is the same error as in 1988 circulating variety but so far only found the 1984 variety in the sets. Thanks for suggesting I look at the differences between circulating and set design I seem to have learnt a lot this last week or two. mudeki - 2014-04-25 18:25:00 |
| 3654 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313984927.jpg chefman1 - 2014-04-25 18:28:00 |
| 3655 | Nice one chefman1 I had a different year of the main variety on my desk so had a look. It looks like it may appear on at least 2 years (don't have the other on my desk to check) mudeki - 2014-04-25 18:46:00 |
| 3656 | How about this, lester36 - 2014-04-25 18:55:00 |
| 3657 | lester36 wrote:
Pretty convinced it's a bent paper clip on the blank. I have a photo of a more obvious one on a 50c somewhere. translateltd - 2014-04-25 18:58:00 |
| 3658 | chefman1 wrote:
Impressive - good find! translateltd - 2014-04-25 18:59:00 |
| 3659 | And another one, lester36 - 2014-04-25 19:00:00 |
| 3660 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313988117.jpg there is a different between 1962 & 1963 broken backs to just letting you know chefman1 - 2014-04-25 19:00:00 |
| 3661 | lester36 wrote:
its call a cud in the mouth, found them in 2007 what your date on the coin Edited by chefman1 at 7:14 pm, Fri 25 Apr chefman1 - 2014-04-25 19:03:00 |
| 3662 | "Paper clip on the blank" error: https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313988902.jpg Not mine but I hope the owner won't mind my posting. translateltd - 2014-04-25 19:03:00 |
| 3663 | WOW those paperclip errors are very cool i cant say i have seen anything like that before. I found another coin this week i almost put in the cull pile but it looks like i could have happened to the blank but what do you guys think this one made me keep it and look at it more closely as the milling does not continue around the rim mudeki - 2014-04-25 19:27:00 |
| 3664 | chefman1 wrote:
Thats rather interesting i have a few other shillings i have marked as broken backs but i wonder if they also have differences compared to the other coins of those years regarding the wide/close that you posted in the first one. mudeki - 2014-04-25 19:31:00 |
| 3665 | mudeki wrote:
Something else to consider is which mint struck the 1984 unc set coins - was it the same mint that did the 1988 circulation strikes? I haven't checked yet, but if it was the same one, they might have had two sets of master dies/hubs that they drew on to prepare new dies when needed, hence the chopping and changing between types in those two years. translateltd - 2014-04-25 19:39:00 |
| 3666 | chefman1 wrote:
Peter - which date pse? translateltd - 2014-04-25 19:40:00 |
| 3667 | I did check that actually and according to the journal article on the 1988 varieties 1984 GC (General circulation) Ottawa 1988 GC type 1 Canberra Edited by mudeki at 7:44 pm, Fri 25 Apr mudeki - 2014-04-25 19:43:00 |
| 3668 | mudeki wrote:
Interesting - might still make sense if the Royal Mint in the UK supplied master dies to Australia (don't know if it did - the Canadians clearly cut their own), but then you'd expect similar pairings in the '88 NCLT sets, at least in theory. translateltd - 2014-04-25 20:08:00 |
| 3669 | in 1985 Canberra supplied the NCLT these were type 2 reverse and in 1986 and 87 Llantrisant produced the NCLT as they did in 1984 so these could also have varieties This is copied from the journal Type 1 has the rope type 2 does not we have already proved that in 1984 sets have both type 1 and 2 does anyone have any other year set with something different mudeki - 2014-04-25 20:28:00 |
| 3670 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314007135.jpg 1965 shilling feather's close to knee & 1965 missing feather's chefman1 - 2014-04-25 22:11:00 |
| 3671 | translateltd wrote:
Martin- 1965 shilling chefman1 - 2014-04-25 22:12:00 |
| 3672 | mudeki wrote:
yes they do, the 1962 shilling have the same as the 1965 shilling,but i don't know about the 1963 shilling coin yet. chefman1 - 2014-04-25 22:17:00 |
| 3673 | chefman1 wrote:
Thanks, that's great. Do the "missing feathers" occur along with the "broken back"? They could both be caused by similar die wear, I guess, but did it affect both places at the same time? translateltd - 2014-04-25 22:18:00 |
| 3674 | translateltd wrote:
the missing feathers are on the 1965 broken back coin chefman1 - 2014-04-25 22:28:00 |
| 3675 | lester36 wrote: lester36 - 2014-04-26 08:19:00 |
| 3676 | questions & answers = Same seller , same buyer , has not hit the reserve ? scam ?...lol so do i chefman1 - 2014-04-26 08:24:00 |
| 3677 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314033670.jpg Martin - this is what i have found in the 1988 *no rope variety* 50 cent coin. chefman1 - 2014-04-26 10:23:00 |
| 3678 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314048077.jpg the different between the 1988 50c circulated *no rope* & 1988 50c *extra rope* Edited by chefman1 at 12:26 pm, Sat 26 Apr chefman1 - 2014-04-26 12:18:00 |
| 3679 | https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/314051633.jpg nice 20 cent *error* coin for you's to have a look at chefman1 - 2014-04-26 12:49:00 |
| 3680 | chefman1 wrote:
Interesting with the error at the top close to Mount Taranaki this appears most years in either set or circulating coins but only occasionally on both. im still working on photos. mudeki - 2014-04-26 16:37:00 |
| 3681 | chefman1 wrote:
Interesting indeed - what year is this? translateltd - 2014-04-26 17:19:00 |
| 3682 | mudeki wrote:
mudeki I have seen some photos of your 2008 $1 on the Coin variety's site and I have one exactly the same. I got it in change about 3 years ago ,so would it be called a variety not an error as there are at least 3 of them :-). lester36 - 2014-04-26 17:21:00 |
| 3683 | What number do you have lester i think i still have multiples of all those varieties except one of them. A few years ago i withdrew a large amount of $1 from circ and sorted them into year and then into errors to compare how many coins have errors and record as many as i could. Im just finishing at work but some years over 50% of the coins I looked at had some sort of metal cud on them. 2005 for example i found more coins with a cud in the 5 than coins without. Edited by mudeki at 5:32 pm, Sat 26 Apr mudeki - 2014-04-26 17:31:00 |
| 3684 | I have not got great amounts of errors , only what I find in either change or when I buy bulk lots . lester36 - 2014-04-26 17:39:00 |
| 3685 | Awesome lester I find them rather fascinating how the dies change over time. I still have alot to load on that site its just finding the time. I started the site to share some of the coins I have found over the years as I found it frustrating just to have them in storage hidden from view atleast this way others can see whats out there and hopefully contribute. mudeki - 2014-04-26 18:00:00 |
| 3686 | translateltd wrote:
I have a similar paperclip 50c coin error but no image of it. Edited by nznotes at 6:16 pm, Sat 26 Apr nznotes - 2014-04-26 18:13:00 |
| 3687 | lester36 wrote:
i guess definitions don't have to be set in concrete but i can't see why errors need to be one-offs - my personal rule of thumb is that a variety is the result of deliberate action (someone recuts a die) while an error isn't - die chips, cuds, filled dies etc. translateltd - 2014-04-26 19:06:00 |
| 3688 | Probably the most common error I come across is lamination flaws. Early 20th century US pieces have quite a bit of these. While I was pleased to lay hands on a 1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent, at first I was a bit disappointed because it was rather damaged. On closer inspection, I realised it's a rather substantial lamination flaw. Most of what I have are just poorly joined layers of metal, rather than entire faces of the coin lost. Still, in some instances they run right across the coin. I have a couple of nice Bisons with the presence of copper very apparent. Actually, considering they are 75% copper, I am surprised how much the nickel dominates the colour on US five cent pieces. echoriath - 2014-04-27 15:17:00 |
| 3689 | A ten gram "solid gold coin" that weighs ten grams and contains one grain of gold? echoriath - 2014-04-27 19:25:00 |
| 3690 | Just finished looking through 670 plus 5 cent coins and found 40 with errors lester36 - 2014-04-27 21:11:00 |
| 3691 | 1999 is the most common year for errors (8) lester36 - 2014-04-27 21:53:00 |
| 3692 | What sort of errors are you finding? I found a 2003 NZ dollar last week with a significant cud in the curve and angle of the 2, as well as the top of the first 0. Photo to follow. echoriath - 2014-04-27 22:45:00 |
| 3693 | echoriath wrote:
I have photos on the website its a nice error with it on the curve of the 2 the cuds normally appear bottom / back of the 2's mudeki - 2014-04-27 23:04:00 |
| 3694 | So those percentages for your $1 errors are out if all the coins you looked at? I'll try and email a photo of my 2003. echoriath - 2014-04-27 23:48:00 |
| 3695 | those Percentages were based on how many coins i found with that error in that year. Was only a small sample of about 15-20 thousand coins (of all years) I have some more data after that first study i did but it shows errors harder to find. The total error amount i found for $1 coins was close to 20% in most cases not including small spikes around the queen that's basically just metal cuds but some are very small and others at the time i looked were very common so it was likely that one of the security companies had a shipment from the reserve bank containing a large quantity of one particular error. I recently got a very large amount of coins from one of these companies all in bags from the Mint and they had no errors but they all had the same die markings. I always wanted to go to a different region and withdrawal whatever i could from a few banks but might take some convincing of the better half on that mudeki - 2014-04-28 00:05:00 |
| 3696 | So here's the 2003: This is the reverse of a different coin dated 1991: The second photo fails to really convey what's going on, but it looks as if there is a round bit that feels as if it's raised up, as opposed to something that ate into the metal. echoriath - 2014-04-28 01:25:00 |
| 3697 | 97...bump chefman1 - 2014-04-30 18:59:00 |
| 3698 | 98... chefman1 - 2014-04-30 19:00:00 |
| 3699 | 99.... chefman1 - 2014-04-30 19:00:00 |
| 3700 | 100 hundy chefman1 - 2014-04-30 19:00:00 |
