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muzz8 wrote:
rebel58 wrote:


You are not German by any chance?
This thread is getting Boering (sp)- any more stupid ideas?


Plenty.

rebel58 - 2011-11-08 20:53:00
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What's up with this item? 420790776 So far $500 for an extremely poor condition 1840 1d black? A triumph of marketing over common sense? The eventual buyer of this is going to get a rude awakening someday.

ambj - 2011-11-10 19:42:00
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ambj wrote:

What's up with this item? 420790776 So far $500 for an extremely poor condition 1840 1d black? A triumph of marketing over common sense? The eventual buyer of this is going to get a rude awakening someday.


I think that they are buying a hole in the ground for the vendor rather than the stamp.None of the bidders seem to be regular stamp buyers.Great selling pitch.

rebel58 - 2011-11-10 21:01:00
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This statement is a worry: "A unique opportunity to gift the philatelic collector in your life something they probably don't already have." I would say "thanks but no thanks!"

paulmc - 2011-11-11 00:25:00
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paulmc wrote:

This statement is a worry: "A unique opportunity to gift the philatelic collector in your life something they probably don't already have." I would say "thanks but no thanks!"

Brings to mind an old saying "You cant make a silk purse out of a pigs ear" but in this case?

rebel58 - 2011-11-11 07:31:00
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7000 + views says this bloke/girl is going to be very happy with the end result

gandalff4 - 2011-11-11 09:42:00
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donaldo - 2011-11-11 11:15:00
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I wonder if he will answer my Question?
I hope that the winner of your auction does not want to give it to a collector re your quote " A unique opportunity to gift the philatelic collector in your life something they probably don't already have. "
A philatelic collector would not want this in His/her collection.
This amounts to Fraud in my books as I am a philatelic collector and I would even gift this stamp to a Pygmy for toilet paper.

rebel58 - 2011-11-11 11:22:00
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donaldo wrote:

had you thought you could be more positive in having the 'abortion' stopped instead of waffering on about it


Have you Don?

rebel58 - 2011-11-11 11:22:00
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where can I get my stamps valued and where can I sell them?

muzza27 - 2011-11-11 13:44:00
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muzza27 wrote:

where can I get my stamps valued and where can I sell them?

Google and the yellow pages are your friend ,look for a local Stamp Dealer or Club.To sell, quick money go to a dealer or take your time or do a bit of research and sell on Trademe.
Sorry but we are not allowed to give contact details on here it is against Trademe rules.

rebel58 - 2011-11-11 14:07:00
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muzza27 wrote:

where can I get my stamps valued and where can I sell them?

I just Googled ., stamp dealer New Plymouth.
Two in your area.

rebel58 - 2011-11-11 15:23:00
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rebel58 wrote:

I wonder if he will answer my Question?
I hope that the winner of your auction does not want to give it to a collector re your quote " A unique opportunity to gift the philatelic collector in your life something they probably don't already have. "
A philatelic collector would not want this in His/her collection.
This amounts to Fraud in my books as I am a philatelic collector and I would even gift this stamp to a Pygmy for toilet paper.

Wonder if the pygmy could be asked whether they have seen the other (missing) corner in their travels ? ;-)

Edited by tmg at 7:14 pm, Fri 11 Nov

tmg - 2011-11-11 19:14:00
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gandalff4 wrote:

7000 + views says this bloke/girl is going to be very happy with the end result

what was that little saying about a fool & their ..... ? ;-)

tmg - 2011-11-11 19:15:00
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Well He is a smooth talker I will give him that at least.Must have balls the size of buses.Predator praying on fools and he is still hungry..

Edited by rebel58 at 7:26 pm, Fri 11 Nov

rebel58 - 2011-11-11 19:26:00
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rebel58 wrote:

Well He is a smooth talker I will give him that at least.Must have balls the size of buses.Predator praying on fools and he is still hungry..

Obviously the sleazeball has a large group of trusting followers somewhere who know nothing about stamps (8000 hits, with none of the trademe promotions, just doesn't happen). Marketing somewhat valuable stamps to non-collectors, anywhere, anytime, is (insert choice unprintable words) unethical.

I reported this to TM a couple of days ago, but, of course, nothing happened (maybe if they get enough reports...). And, I admit, to making that censored "dopey questions" comment, although what was really censored was my generous valuation of $20. (Penny Black missing a check letter? Wouldn't pay a cent, personally).

2345678 - 2011-11-11 20:34:00
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tmg wrote:

what was that little saying about a fool & their ..... ? ;-)


indeedy :)

gandalff4 - 2011-11-12 09:40:00
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2345678 wrote:

Marketing somewhat valuable stamps to non-collectors, anywhere, anytime, is (insert choice unprintable words) unethical.

I reported this to TM a couple of days ago, but, of course, nothing happened (maybe if they get enough reports...). And, I admit, to making that censored "dopey questions" comment, although what was really censored was my generous valuation of $20. (Penny Black missing a check letter? Wouldn't pay a cent, personally).

This is totally unethical to say the least.
TM should aquire the help of at least one or two reputable dealers on whos advice and suggestions they should rely on and respond appropriately.
Until then philately is disadvantaged.

Edited by philafarinz at 9:51 am, Sat 12 Nov

philafarinz - 2011-11-12 09:42:00
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2345678 wrote:

Obviously the sleazeball has a large group of trusting followers somewhere who know nothing about stamps (8000 hits, with none of the trademe promotions, just doesn't happen). Marketing somewhat valuable stamps to non-collectors, anywhere, anytime, is (insert choice unprintable words) unethical.

I reported this to TM a couple of days ago, but, of course, nothing happened (maybe if they get enough reports...). And, I admit, to making that censored "dopey questions" comment, although what was really censored was my generous valuation of $20. (Penny Black missing a check letter? Wouldn't pay a cent, personally).

Trademe wont do anything ,Profit,Profit Profit is all they are worried about.Some time ago some kid in Nelson or there abouts was selling his rare stamp to help some theatric society,newspaper coverage ,Trademe featured Auctions etc,The stamp was a fiscal worth bugger all and Trademe did nothing.
It was reported to the Newspaper and Trademe and it went for a around $1,000.00.So dont get your hopes up.

rebel58 - 2011-11-12 11:19:00
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The profit margin to TM is negligible.
The Philatelic Federation of New Zealand should be entrusted to be the watch-dog.
A reputable dealer from this organization should have the necessary influence to instruct removal of such items harmful to philatelic trade.

philafarinz - 2011-11-12 11:58:00
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donaldo - 2011-11-12 14:14:00
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Well, apparently we're all "JEALOUS" traders now.

Funny. The PB in my collection (3.9 margins, generally average condition), I picked up for, don't remember exactly, probably around $50 US on ebay a few years ago. Not sure why I'm "jealous" of whoever's purchasing that thing for $500.

2345678 - 2011-11-12 15:10:00
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[this is why you should be removed from trademe. sabotaging other peoples auctions or since you have been warned and banned so many times, your now trying to get other people in trouble or banned from trademe.
if there is a problem report it to trademe and let them sort it out ,you are not in charge of everything stamps and coins you are just a stirrer and yes I have reported you to trademe. you have been banned before for this and you will again, this is why you direct everyone to these threads to manipulate and use them for your own benefit, now leave peoples auctions alone

lucas42852 - 2011-11-12 17:36:00
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donaldo wrote:

ask some awkward questions like "is the description correct?' and 1 and all report it to trademe

Anyone can sell a car with 3 wheels and describe it as such. So reporting to TM is of no consequence for 3/4 of a stamp that even TM would recognise as the penny black which is fractional of wholeness.
How can this be best be brought to their attention ?

philafarinz - 2011-11-12 17:38:00
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I think as soon as one sells an item with detail which is gleaned from books or the net in general and attached to an item one thinks it represents causes the knowledgeable some distraught.
Stamp collectors would not sell half a coin or an unfinished painting as complete as the one's in the know pick this up and vent their displeasure as they know best.

philafarinz - 2011-11-12 18:33:00
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Don I see your friend is back,it must be like having the big brother that should have been aborted before birth.I presume that he is a collector of sorts and cant understand why he is against you trying to protect the uneducated public in this case.

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 08:32:00
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Why do you like to make your statements personal which are clearly not appopriate to TM rules ?
Why not post something of philatelic benefit to broaden others' philatelic minds ?

philafarinz - 2011-11-13 10:49:00
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philafarinz wrote:

Why do you like to make your statements personal which are clearly not appopriate to TM rules ?
Why not post something of philatelic benefit to broaden others' philatelic minds ?


I think that you ought to reflect on some of your posts but we cant on all of them as at least one has been removed by Trademe.I do stand to be corrected.To be PC to play with words is not in my nature.
I do try to encorage and help Collectors and not come down on them for bad English and spelling and telling that they should be banned for such crimes to humanity.I have always told my childeren that there is never a stuipd question but there are stupid people out in the big wide world.As a relitive newcommer to this Forum perhaps you ought to go back to the very first post in this thread and read all of them one by one (spelling mistakes and all if you can bare it) and then come back with a more informed opinion?

Edited by rebel58 at 11:42 am, Sun 13 Nov

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 11:38:00
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You obviously did not read the second question but I shall repeat it for you as you may not not have understood it:--

Why not post something of philatelic benefit to broaden others' philatelic minds ?

philafarinz - 2011-11-13 12:04:00
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philafarinz wrote:

You obviously did not read the second question but I shall repeat it for you as you may not not have understood it:--

Why not post something of philatelic benefit to broaden others' philatelic minds ?

I did.
Please read all of the posts in this forum and your question will be answered..HINT!!!! Use the clicky thing in your hand and click it on Page 1.

Edited by rebel58 at 12:21 pm, Sun 13 Nov

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 12:16:00
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philafarinz wrote:

The profit margin to TM is negligible.
The Philatelic Federation of New Zealand should be entrusted to be the watch-dog.
A reputable dealer from this organization should have the necessary influence to instruct removal of such items harmful to philatelic trade.


Sorry but their are no dealers as business members that are a member of the Philatelic Federation of New Zealand.It is for Stamp clubs,Societies etc .Try the NZSDA.Sorry just trying advance philatelic trade by righting a wrong..

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 12:37:00
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Your continuous verbal abuse in the past has not gone un-noticed, to avoid your self humiliating character-bashing, you should be left to your own devices.

philafarinz - 2011-11-13 13:13:00
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philafarinz wrote:

Your continuous verbal abuse in the past has not gone un-noticed, to avoid your self humiliating character-bashing, you should be left to your own devices.


I have crossed swords with the best eg Muzz and Don in the past to name a few ,have lost some and won some but they have my respect and I have traded with them since. Water flows under the bridge untill the next time.They state their cases with fact not fiction and with educated personal opinion.Harden up eat some concrete and get your facts right .I presently going through your postings to see if you have actually helped someone.Practicing what you preach is big in my book.

Edited by rebel58 at 1:55 pm, Sun 13 Nov

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 13:51:00
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lucas42852 - 2011-11-13 14:26:00
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I sense the need for a duel.
'Penny Blacks' at 40 paces!

phil.s - 2011-11-13 14:34:00
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phil.s wrote:

I sense the need for a duel.
'Penny Blacks' at 40 paces!


Spacefillers only!!!!!!

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 14:49:00
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donaldo - 2011-11-13 14:52:00
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Trade Me wrote:

The originally quoted post has been removed.

Lucarse I looked at Dons Feed back no Red Faces and thousands of trades a couple of blues from memory,I would have expected at least one from what you have stated.Now let me check yours......................Opp-
pppppppps.
I have had no negative dealings with Don and as stated so before .
Is he abrupt? Yes,Non PC?Yes,Is he wrong sometimes? Yes Has he had his hand slapped by Trademe in the past ? Yes.Do I value his opinions? Most of the time.Obviously you have a Vendeta against Don and stalk him .Bugger off and play in the coin sandpit and leave us alone.

Edited by rebel58 at 3:15 pm, Sun 13 Nov

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 15:04:00
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rebel58 wrote:

Lucarse I looked at Dons Feed back no Red Faces and thousands of trades a couple of blues from memory,I would have expected at least one from what you have stated.Now let me check yours......................Opp-
pppppppps.
I have had no negative dealings with Don and as stated so before .
Is he abrupt? Yes,Non PC?Yes,Is he wrong sometimes? Yes Has he had his hand slapped by Trademe in the past ? Yes.Do I value his opinions? Most of the time.Obviously you have a Vendeta against Don and stalk him .Bugger off and play in the coin sandpit and leave us alone.

+1

tmg - 2011-11-13 17:35:00
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rebel58 wrote:


Spacefillers only!!!!!!

make sure all the corners of the ring are present & represented ;-)

Edited by tmg at 5:36 pm, Sun 13 Nov

tmg - 2011-11-13 17:36:00
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tmg wrote:

make sure all the corners of the ring are present & represented ;-)


sorry cant play two missing

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 18:27:00
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lucarse thats very funny havent heard that since i was six years old maybe thats your mental age lol I explained the reason and you got feedback out of it ,well done he probably bullied them out of it as well,so long as you lot keep giving out auction numbers and attacking people ill be there watching and reporting maybe watching you now I looked at your negative feedback and it states your selling forgeries wow no point discussing anything with the likes of you

lucas42852 - 2011-11-13 19:15:00
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lucas42852 wrote:

lucarse thats very funny havent heard that since i was six years old maybe thats your mental age lol I explained the reason and you got feedback out of it ,well done he probably bullied them out of it as well,so long as you lot keep giving out auction numbers and attacking people ill be there watching and reporting maybe watching you now I looked at your negative feedback and it states your selling forgeries wow no point discussing anything with the likes of you

You are right I have sold forgeries in the past and will sell them again and all I sell are stated as Forgeries and have forgery stamped on the back .Go back to your sand box.

rebel58 - 2011-11-13 20:33:00
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My rant for the day.

Why are the pictures on many stamp listings so awful? At least one of the biggest listers doesn't appear to even own a scanner, and so we get poorly focused photos with flash reflections and so on, and can barely see the stamps! Printer/scanner/fax units start at under $70 these days. Is that too much to expect, of traders regularly selling stamps?

Or those that don't crop their images properly, and so we get a tiny stamp image on a full-page background, and can't tell anything. If you need software to crop and don't want to fork out for photoshop, go to www dot gimp dot org. Absolutely free, and does everything a stamp-seller needs, and much more.

Oh, and when "cropping" images, you're cutting out the background, not the stamps!!! If it doesn't work first time, do it again! That's especially for the seller of a ChCh ex. set a couple of weeks ago. If I'm expected to bid $200 on a few stamps, don't I have a right to know exactly what I'm getting??? (At that price level, separate big scans of each stamp, front and back, isn't too unreasonable to expect).

And then, there's those where the seller seems to have used 75 or 100 DPI scans, giving images much smaller than TM allows!!! Fer chris sake, set your scanner to at least 300 DPI, and let TM scale down to it's allowed size!!!

And don't tell me to hit ctrl-+ for a larger image!!! That doesn't increase image resolution, it just lets me see the individual pixels!!!

As any regular buyer knows, descriptions can't be trusted, especially with regard to condition. Good scans are important, and you might just get more bids!! I pass on many lots, simply because the scans are poor, and my trust of the seller nose-dives as a result.

Rant mode off.

2345678 - 2011-11-14 20:49:00
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2345678 wrote:

My rant for the day.

Why are the pictures on many stamp listings so awful? At least one of the biggest listers doesn't appear to even own a scanner, and so we get poorly focused photos with flash reflections and so on, and can barely see the stamps! Printer/scanner/fax units start at under $70 these days. Is that too much to expect, of traders regularly selling stamps?

Or those that don't crop their images properly, and so we get a tiny stamp image on a full-page background, and can't tell anything. If you need software to crop and don't want to fork out for photoshop, go to www dot gimp dot org. Absolutely free, and does everything a stamp-seller needs, and much more.

Oh, and when "cropping" images, you're cutting out the background, not the stamps!!! If it doesn't work first time, do it again! That's especially for the seller of a ChCh ex. set a couple of weeks ago. If I'm expected to bid $200 on a few stamps, don't I have a right to know exactly what I'm getting??? (At that price level, separate big scans of each stamp, front and back, isn't too unreasonable to expect).

And then, there's those where the seller seems to have used 75 or 100 DPI scans, giving images much smaller than TM allows!!! Fer chris sake, set your scanner to at least 300 DPI, and let TM scale down to it's allowed size!!!

And don't tell me to hit ctrl-+ for a larger image!!! That doesn't increase image resolution, it just lets me see the individual pixels!!!

As any regular buyer knows, descriptions can't be trusted, especially with regard to condition. Good scans are important, and you might just get more bids!! I pass on many lots, simply because the scans are poor, and my trust of the seller nose-dives as a result.

Rant mode off.

good numbers those .. wish I had taken note late last week :-)

tmg - 2011-11-15 02:04:00
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donaldo - 2011-11-15 18:06:00
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Asking questions is essential when buying stamps even with a great scan.
A lot of the sellers on here are getting rid of some stamps that they have found / deeded / gifted and don't know a thing about them.And then the computer illiterate wouldn't know how to alter the resolution or scan etc.
So the question part of the Auction is in my opinion is the best tool a buyer has in buying stamps.It can also provide some legal protection if needed even if the question was unanswered.After all what has a seller got to hide if they don't answer questions or if you cant ask the questions if this tool has been removed?

Edited by rebel58 at 6:28 pm, Tue 15 Nov

rebel58 - 2011-11-15 18:25:00
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An interesting way to sell these .. 423535082 - in light of earlier comments from some in this thread on stamp values to deviate away from very earlies with hole corners missing :-)

Edited by tmg at 3:01 am, Thu 17 Nov

tmg - 2011-11-17 02:58:00
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tmg wrote:

An interesting way to sell these .. 423535082 - in light of earlier comments from some in this thread on stamp values to deviate away from very earlies with hole corners missing :-)


Not my cup of tea and it is a pity about the creases in the top right corner,would look good framed if you could iron those creases out. But good investment?.

rebel58 - 2011-11-19 07:50:00
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donaldo - 2011-11-19 21:26:00
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