THE NEW COIN CLUB
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| 3551 | Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions. No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again. Edited by chefman1 at 8:28 pm, Wed 9 Apr chefman1 - 2014-04-09 20:27:00 |
| 3552 | well done cashintheattic....good price you got...lol chefman1 - 2014-04-09 20:29:00 |
| 3553 | Thanks Chefman.... Its always good watching those auctions... cashintheattic - 2014-04-09 20:31:00 |
| 3554 | gammoner wrote:
not buying much now..got put off by to many traders..not sending my coins or they forgot to send them..be waiting on one auction for two weeks now, chefman1 - 2014-04-09 20:36:00 |
| 3555 | Is that still the trader from down here Chefman? cashintheattic - 2014-04-09 20:37:00 |
| 3556 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2014-04-09 20:52:00 |
| 3557 | cashintheattic wrote:
Took two weeks to received them...no email to what happened..so won't be buying from him again. Edited by chefman1 at 8:56 pm, Wed 9 Apr chefman1 - 2014-04-09 20:55:00 |
| 3558 | Im still good to trade with lol cashintheattic - 2014-04-09 21:03:00 |
| 3559 | cashintheattic wrote:
Any of the older parks/domains (Town Belt, Woodhaugh, etc.) in town are a good prospect. I reckon up along City Road is particularly worth a squiz. Be sure and reinstate the ground when digging holes. I found a florin out at St. Kilda a couple of years ago. It was in a pretty corroded state, but what bugged me more was that it was a 1947. It was almost as if to tease me, as a year earlier would have been 50% silver. Of course, it's probably almost silly to not head for the hills once in a while to look for some colour. If your schedule allows, pop round on Sunday arvo for a cuppa and a chin wag. echoriath - 2014-04-11 22:49:00 |
| 3560 | Bump ... translateltd - 2014-04-14 11:20:00 |
| 3561 | This message was deleted. oldecurb - 2014-04-15 23:37:00 |
| 3562 | Has he cherrypicked the good stuff and is moving the rest on? Odd to start at $30 less than he paid. A few years ago someone "lifted" my images to illustrate his own sales, and when I complained he told me I didn't understand how TradeMe worked! translateltd - 2014-04-16 11:28:00 |
| 3563 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2014-04-16 18:35:00 |
| 3564 | It does not apply for most (if any of our NZ coins) it is to do with one side being upside down. If you were to wear a medal for example it may spin around so both sides were the same way up. On a lot of older coins if you were looking at the portrait and spun the coin around the other side would be upside down. mudeki - 2014-04-16 18:59:00 |
| 3565 | Most countries do their coins one way or the other. NZ coins are medal alignment, US coins are coinage alignment (unless they are errors of manufacture). Some countries vary - for a while, Britain had bronze coins one way and silver the other; I'm too tired to remember when or which right now, though! translateltd - 2014-04-16 20:28:00 |
| 3566 | I wonder if there are any NZ coins out there with coinage alignment I am not even sure if i would notice unless there was a few i was sorting. the last time i did look at rotation varieties was when we lost our 5 cent piece 1999 contained a few different rotation varieties i have been working on a way to photograph and test these but it will take a bit of time so just did this quickly for an example. same coins in album pages so they did not spin around when i flipped them over https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/312902692.jpg mudeki - 2014-04-16 21:41:00 |
| 3567 | I wonder if there are any NZ coins out there with coinage alignment yes here is..but you can go and fine them..a have a few of them chefman1 - 2014-04-16 21:51:00 |
| 3568 | One good keen man I lent a bag of 100 1999 5-cents to studied all the rotation variations in that particularly interesting year and found they usually correlated with die flaws on the reverse, to the point where he could look closely at the reverse and tell you what the die rotation was going to be, if any. translateltd - 2014-04-16 22:00:00 |
| 3569 | Yea i remember sorting through them thinking almost every coin has some sort of flaw it was rather painful i still have a few hundred 1999 5 c i have not looked at but it all takes time. I think with all the metal cuds, oil filled dies, rotation errors on those coins they have to be one of the most flawed decimals followed closely by our $1 coins with some years producing over 40% coins with errors (mostly metal cuds i never really did the spike nose type errors) when i recorded them a few years back. mudeki - 2014-04-16 22:13:00 |
| 3570 | they have to be one of the most flawed decimals coins well you are missing a few dates like 2001-2002-2003 error coins,i have got over chefman1 - 2014-04-16 22:29:00 |
| 3571 | I have asked a friend to forward you my contact details as i am interested to see if you have also found some of the errors i have found recently. I would post my details here but against tm rules etc etc. I was also wondering if i could use one of your photos you had of an error sold on tm a few weeks ago as i dont have one. mudeki - 2014-04-16 22:49:00 |
| 3572 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2014-04-17 00:09:00 |
| 3573 | muzz8 wrote:
Reported by different people and not edited, perhaps? I assume the processes are one and the same. translateltd - 2014-04-17 07:32:00 |
| 3574 | The member deleted this message. muzz8 - 2014-04-17 12:35:00 |
| 3575 | I would assume the bonding is just attaching one layer to another, so no different to plating. translateltd - 2014-04-17 15:45:00 |
| 3576 | This message was deleted. muzz8 - 2014-04-17 16:28:00 |
| 3577 | Bison nickels are another coin famous for being off in terms of rotation. Like all US circulating coinage, they are in coin rotation, but my observation is that, of all US coins, they have the most die rotations. I'm slowing accumulating a collection of rotated die coins, especially Bisons. I've gone on a bit before about the 1914-Ds before, and of the five or six I have found, every one of them had a rotated die. In fact, I am going to save the most AND least rotated of that particular one because I reckon that year/mint is actually hard to find without SOME rotation. With respect to ascertaining the degree of die rotation, I put a coin in a cardboard holder, making sure that the side I can see is perfectly lined up. This is easier if there is a straight line either vertically or horizontally as part of the design. For example, the line under the Bison must be dead level. Fold the holder over, enclosing the coin. No need to staple it shut (unless you want to). Just hold it tight, then flip it over and look at the coin on the reverse side. One could get really fancy and use a protractor to mark degrees on the holder so as to get an exact idea of how much the die was rotated. echoriath - 2014-04-19 00:31:00 |
| 3578 | The other way would be to use a free photo program called gimp i found just the other day it has a tool to measure distance and angles so for me I will set up my dslr zoom an focus to get the same size photo use that tool. I have also purchased some lighthouse encap sheets so was planning on putting coins in flips then putting the flips in the sheets to make sure they sit straight. It may also be handy to identify size of letters as I noticed something the other day that the 2004 $1 has thicker letters and detail on the queen (makes her look fat lol) than 2005-2010. I asked translated if there was any record of this but he was unaware of anything being mentioned before. has anyone noted this on other 2004 coins as i have not checked yet? i made a quick gif image from the coins i had on my desk to compare but i did it quickly and the rotation of coins was not perfect so will do it again sometime A few months ago i decided i wanted to share my hobby with others but was unsure how to do it so i started a website to list errors and varieties of nz coins is still a long way from being done. I need to make it clear for Trademe it is a reference site and no items there are for sale. Listing 718208667 3rd line up from the bottom for the link mudeki - 2014-04-19 11:42:00 |
| 3579 | I don't recall seeing the "goitre" and "butterfly lips" errors occurring on the one coin before - good find. 719038403 translateltd - 2014-04-19 12:35:00 |
| 3580 | Hmm interesting as i dont think i have a butterfly lips error without it haha I will have to double check mudeki - 2014-04-19 12:38:00 |
| 3581 | The ones i have you can almost follow the die error i need to redo photos and confirm small die marks. But if you look at the sequence of errors on my site 2008 - 6,16,29,5 it makes me wonder as 6-16-5 all have adams apple (goitre) errors but 29 doesnt. if you look closely at 6 & 16 you can see an indent of where the start of butterfly lips is going to appear i always assumed that 5 was a variant of 6 & 16 but could it be there are two dies that produced similar errors or was a die cleaned in some way or did metal get stuck in the die. if anyone has a coin with just the butterfly lips i would love a high res photo to compare mudeki - 2014-04-19 12:52:00 |
| 3582 | I missed one error 12 also shows the indent of where the Goitre (adams apple) and i believe the butterfly lips starts with the queen poking her tongue out. All the coins listed there i have multiples of except number 29 the half butterfly so this could have been a different die? i just looked at the coin it shows no singe of a goitre error at all. So now i really want to know if the butterfly lips error other people have also has a cud in the D of dollar as this does not appear in the other series 12,6,16,5 mudeki - 2014-04-19 13:13:00 |
| 3583 | WOW, very helpful website with all the pics of errors, etc., mudeki. echoriath - 2014-04-19 14:45:00 |
| 3584 | As I understand it these errors are all caused by die cracking/chipping. It usually starts with a small raised line on the coin as the die starts to crack, then the marks/lumps/cuds/butterflies get larger as more metal falls away from the die. It would be odd to get the same pattern/sequence on more than one die but not totally impossible, I guess. It would be interesting to match the reverses as both dies don't always get changed at once, so the goitre/butterfly lips obverse could potentially be matched with more than one reverse die - although you would expect the obverse die to be swapped pretty swiftly if the damage was noticed before the end of the normal die run. translateltd - 2014-04-19 15:03:00 |
| 3585 | Hi all Am thinking of listing some coins on Trademe. Would it be safe to list these coins as UNC or should I say AU or something else? I'm very new to grading etc and do not want to appear to be deceiving buyers https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313291512.jpg Not the best photography I know... lbillows - 2014-04-19 23:11:00 |
| 3586 | nice little error on your 1889 coin = die crack from rim to the [F] on half, i would say chefman1 - 2014-04-20 00:05:00 |
| 3587 | chefman1 wrote:
Thanks for your help. I also came across a $2 coin with what I think is a cud. What do you think? https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/313295046.jpg lbillows - 2014-04-20 01:31:00 |
| 3588 | sure is quite big to,plus you have a die crack from the rim to top of the bird wing. chefman1 - 2014-04-20 02:16:00 |
| 3589 | lbillows wrote: . lester36 - 2014-04-20 09:11:00 |
| 3590 | Edward VII effigies are really hard to grade because of the very fine hair detail; on your rupee, though, have a look just in front of the king's ear and there seems to be a patch of wear to the beard and a scratch. I may be a little hard but I would go a little lower than EF on that basis. Always hard to work from photos but maybe a nice GVF for that one? translateltd - 2014-04-20 09:16:00 |
| 3591 | chefman1 wrote:
Just checked again and yes there is a large die crack as well lester36 - 2014-04-20 09:30:00 |
| 3592 | bump cashintheattic - 2014-04-21 12:07:00 |
| 3593 | Question guys...... I have had a buyer contact me saying they have not received there items. They bought 3 things off of me a month ago. I posted the day I received payment and it hasnt arrived. This is the first time this has happened to me so my question is they only paid $3 post so will the post shop have a record of it and what happens if the coins are lost :( cashintheattic - 2014-04-22 22:24:00 |
| 3594 | cashintheattic..why has he taken so long to let you no??..were does he live?? nz Edited by chefman1 at 10:53 pm, Tue 22 Apr chefman1 - 2014-04-22 22:45:00 |
| 3595 | Yes, it's a bit late at this stage to do much through NZ Post. It's also trickier to track it when it's just posted, rather than via courier or similar. If you know the exact date and location of posting, they may try and help, but probably NOT if they know it was coins. Using the word "badges" often serves as effective cover for some reason. Coins are technically not allowed via post. It's not uncommon for items to end up at the same house number on a nearby street. I've had that happen a few times here, and unfortunately our house number on a nearby street is an often unoccupied flat. echoriath - 2014-04-22 23:23:00 |
| 3596 | Prett much he emailed to say the coins hadn't arrived and that $3 post is a lot of money to pay for post for 3 items. All I have said back was that I had sent them and told him the date. I also said to check my feedback as I am a trustworthy seller. The worst thing is he has bought 3 more items off of me and won't pay until he has received his other coins. cashintheattic - 2014-04-23 08:16:00 |
| 3597 | cashintheattic wrote: Edited by akaroacollect at 8:30 am, Wed 23 Apr akaroacollect - 2014-04-23 08:29:00 |
| 3598 | Refund fast and contact NZ Post chefman1 - 2014-04-23 09:08:00 |
| 3599 | cashintheattic wrote: chefman1 - 2014-04-23 09:18:00 |
| 3600 | 100 bump chefman1 - 2014-04-23 09:19:00 |
