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Welcome to the Coin Club. We are an assortment of newbies, amateurs and experts with questions and answers for newbies, amateurs and experts in coin collecting, also known as numismatics. Whether you are just getting started, have been collecting for years or have simply found some old coins about the place that you’d like to sell, this is the place to ask your questions.

No one has all the answers, and you may get five differing answers to the same question, yet each may be right in a manner of speaking, especially if opinions are involved. Opinions often vary. If you receive no answer to your query within 48 hours, please ask again.

echoriath - 2014-03-24 00:28:00
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awfully quiet in here.... Heeeeellllooooo

cashintheattic - 2014-03-25 14:30:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

awfully quiet in here.... Heeeeellllooooo

Quiet echo from the far corner ... Heeeeellllooooo ....

translateltd - 2014-03-25 17:50:00
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How about a question instead? Did the NZ 1968 uncirculated sets come in a wallet at all? I know the polished ones came in a blue wallet, but I've only seen the uncirculated sets by themselves.

justinian1 - 2014-03-25 18:36:00
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Did the NZ 1968 uncirculated sets come in a wallet at all = no
i know the polished ones came in a blue wallet = in a blue velvet case

chefman1 - 2014-03-25 21:00:00
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I think the wallets only started in 1969 - blue/red for the different versions. The 1967s were in a cardboard folder and the '68 polished sets, as Chefman says, were available with a plush case. Always assumed the regular '68s had no outer packaging other than the basic vacuum pack, as I can't recall seeing them any other way.

translateltd - 2014-03-25 21:52:00
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I have some silver pre decimal Fijian and Aust coins (lower face vaue ones).
Are there many rarities in these. Just that been looking on Trademe and Ebay, prices vary widely (on Ebay). I realise they're only worth what someone will pay, but looking at closed sold auctions on Ebay and some on Trademe, some of these coins go for quite a bit higher prices than whats listed on various coin value sites. So I wonder what am I missing, they're not proofs. Cant find sites that mention rarities for them, thanks

karmae - 2014-03-26 15:27:00
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karmae wrote:

I have some silver pre decimal Fijian and Aust coins (lower face vaue ones).
Are there many rarities in these. Just that been looking on Trademe and Ebay, prices vary widely (on Ebay). I realise they're only worth what someone will pay, but looking at closed sold auctions on Ebay and some on Trademe, some of these coins go for quite a bit higher prices than whats listed on various coin value sites. So I wonder what am I missing, they're not proofs. Cant find sites that mention rarities for them, thanks

Try here for starters, and scroll down to the link that says 'Page 310':

http://tinyurl.com/kaoey9e

translateltd - 2014-03-26 15:41:00
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Thanks it also shows some the other odd countries I've got.
Hate to ask but what currency does the values show USD or Gbp

karmae - 2014-03-26 16:10:00
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karmae wrote:

Thanks it also shows some the other odd countries I've got.
Hate to ask but what currency does the values show USD or Gbp

USD. It would pay to check your local library for the Standard Catalog of World Coins - there's a separate volume for each century so make sure you get the right one.

translateltd - 2014-03-26 16:59:00
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It seems I have been scammed (and by the looks of it chefman too) by a trader that a couple of members who post on this thread have traded with before. I just want my coins haha... and they didn't even cost much. Watch out for a certain member that has sold "old world coins incl silver"

lbillows - 2014-03-26 17:57:00
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Thanks chefman and translateltd. Looks like the 1968 polished set I have is a funny one. It's in a "New Zealand Coin Issue" wallet, but (as I've only just noticed!) with a 1969 description card. An 8 has been written over the 9 and the description of the dollar coin has been crossed out in pen.

Odd thing is the wallet is a pale blue colour I haven't seen before.

justinian1 - 2014-03-26 19:28:00
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lbillows wrote:

It seems I have been scammed (and by the looks of it chefman too) by a trader that a couple of members who post on this thread have traded with before. I just want my coins haha... and they didn't even cost much. Watch out for a certain member that has sold "old world coins incl silver"

yes.....i am still waiting for my coins to,i have notice he was on trademe today

Edited by chefman1 at 8:46 pm, Wed 26 Mar

chefman1 - 2014-03-26 20:45:00
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I just had to check to make sure I hadnt sold you guys anything recently.....

cashintheattic - 2014-03-26 21:20:00
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cashintheattic wrote:

I just had to check to make sure I hadnt sold you guys anything recently.....

lol....he lives down your way ....i think you did feedback for him this week.
cashintheattic go to your 1st page on your feedbacks its number 14 down ok.

Edited by chefman1 at 9:44 pm, Wed 26 Mar

chefman1 - 2014-03-26 21:36:00
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justinian1 wrote:

Thanks chefman and translateltd. Looks like the 1968 polished set I have is a funny one. It's in a "New Zealand Coin Issue" wallet, but (as I've only just noticed!) with a 1969 description card. An 8 has been written over the 9 and the description of the dollar coin has been crossed out in pen.

Odd thing is the wallet is a pale blue colour I haven't seen before.

The "pale blue" struck a chord and I just had a quick look in a box of oddments I have here. I have a couple of empty pale blue wallets (the stiffer kind made in the 1970s, not the soft ones from 1969-71/2); inside is a card with 1969 crossed out and 1968 written in in black ink, with the dollar details crossed out, just as you describe. The bottom line has the government printer's details and the year 1975. We've obviously got the same ones. All I can imagine is that some "1968" wallets were made retrospectively (in 1975) to accommodate the 1968 sets since there were no wallets made for them originally, even though the style is wrong for the period it's meant to belong to.

translateltd - 2014-03-26 22:27:00
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Even more odd - just noticed the card in my "1968" wallet was actually dated 1970, and the reverse printing with the description of the dollar has a diagonal line through it. Pictures of wallet and general description side to follow in a mo.

translateltd - 2014-03-26 22:34:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/310245434.jpg

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/310245456.jpg

It gets even weirder, because the font style and text layout on both sides of the crossed-out "1970" card is quite different to that used on the card that accompanied the original 1970 sets. Clearly not just a reprint but laid out again from scratch. But why do the "dollar side" and the "dollar text" again in that case and have to cross out the irrelevant text - including one whole side - and change the date? Something very strange here.

translateltd - 2014-03-26 22:40:00
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And when you've discovered a couple of weird things for one evening, you have to top it off with another: a second pale blue wallet, also empty, with a card for the 1969 set this time, no cross-outs, but printed by the Government Printer in 1978 according to the text at the bottom. It's a closer match to the original 1969 label this time, apart from the name of the printer and the print date. But again - why?

translateltd - 2014-03-26 22:46:00
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https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/310246486.jpg

1969 label printed in 1978 ... Ted Keating, the Government Printer whose name is at the bottom of this one, lived just down the road from us for years but died a year or two ago. Anybody got time to research these mystery labels and wallets with Archives and write the story up for publication?

translateltd - 2014-03-26 22:54:00
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chefman1 wrote:

lol....he lives down your way ....i think you did feedback for him this week.
cashintheattic go to your 1st page on your feedbacks its number 14 down ok.[/quote
Seems out of character for Jase, something must be up. I bought 704094449 on the 13-3-14 and arrived all good a few days later.I'm behind in posting feedbacks to quite a few so will do this one now.I can give him a call if you want me to follow it up on your behalf .Alan

gammoner - 2014-03-26 23:09:00
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Alan, trademe are sorting it out for me,he has not posted the coins out yet for sum
reason....he has untill wednesday or thursday post them out to me and he was to email me to let me know when they are on the way ...but no email from him yet.

chefman1 - 2014-03-26 23:45:00
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chefman1 wrote:

Alan, trademe are sorting it out for me,he has not posted the coins out yet for sum
reason....he has untill wednesday or thursday post them out to me and he was to email me to let me know when they are on the way ...but no email from him yet.

All good Peter, am sure he will come through with your items.All the best,Alan

gammoner - 2014-03-26 23:57:00
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Discussion with one of our longer-established dealers this morning, who suggests the Treasury found itself with too much unsold stock in the mid-70s and the pale blue wallets were one of the measures taken to market the older sets. That would explain the reprinting of the 1969 and 1970 card inserts, if there weren't enough originals left, but manually adjusting them for the 1968 issues was a bit less than ideal!

translateltd - 2014-03-27 14:00:00
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gammoner wrote:

Seems out of character for Jase, something must be up. I bought 704094449 on the 13-3-14 and arrived all good a few days later.I'm behind in posting feedbacks to quite a few so will do this one now.I can give him a call if you want me to follow it up on your behalf .Alan

Thanks for your offer. I sent a very nice email saying he could take as long as he wants to send them as long as they arrive in the end. Still no response, despite having logged on to trademe today. Might take you up on your offer in a few days time.

lbillows - 2014-03-27 14:24:00
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translateltd wrote:

Discussion-
with one of our longer-established dealers this morning, who suggests the Treasury found itself with too much unsold stock in the mid-70s and the pale blue wallets were one of the measures taken to market the older sets. That would explain the reprinting of the 1969 and 1970 card inserts, if there weren't enough originals left, but manually adjusting them for the 1968 issues was a bit less than ideal!

Interesting, makes as much sense as anything else. Like one of yours, the card in mine was printed by the Government Printer in 1978. Wonder if the manually altered cards was done by Treasury or by someone else?

justinian1 - 2014-03-27 18:17:00
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justinian1 wrote:

Interesting, makes as much sense as anything else. Like one of yours, the card in mine was printed by the Government Printer in 1978. Wonder if the manually altered cards was done by Treasury or by someone else?

My hunch is that they originally ordered reprinted cards for the 1969 and 1970 sets to move the backlogs of those years, and then modified a pile of the newly printed cards for a smaller group of 1968s rather than running new ones. There would have been enough junior civil servants on the staff in those days - no worries about cost recovery for the time spent, I'm sure :-)

Curious that the new print runs should have been three years apart, all the same.

translateltd - 2014-03-27 19:07:00
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The story of what was done with the overproduced issues in the early 70s would make a great piece of research in itself - I understand some uncirculated sets were simply broken up by the Treasury and released into circulation, and a number of the Mt Cook/Aorangi dollars were sent to Rarotonga to circulate there, presumably alongside the "doodle dollars" of the same size.

translateltd - 2014-03-27 19:13:00
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=711228461&am
p;ed=true

Greetings all. Whilst I do not often ask for help and am certainly not promoting my auctions I truly would appreciate any assistance identifying the coin in the above auction.
I have spent some time trying to identify and have come up with nothing.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated. I will not be withdrawing or altering the auction but would simply like to know.

carlnsue - 2014-03-27 20:05:00
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carlnsue wrote:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx
?id=711228461&ed=true

Greetings all. Whilst I do not often ask for help and am certainly not promoting my auctions I truly would appreciate any assistance identifying the coin in the above auction.
I have spent some time trying to identify and have come up with nothing.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated. I will not be withdrawing or altering the auction but would simply like to know.

The mint name in the inner circle around the crowns and pellets may be a clue: VIL/LA E/DIN/BRUG :-)

While most of the obverse is heavily worn, the name of the King is legible: IACOBVS = James (III of Scotland)

translateltd - 2014-03-27 20:27:00
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Crikey, I was well of the mark.
Truly appreciate your help. Would also like to bid on your packet of tokens is so permitted. Was keen to bid on the last lot but was unable to do so.

carlnsue - 2014-03-27 20:30:00
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The member deleted this message.

echoriath - 2014-03-27 20:33:00
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Cheers again, I just read what I had posted above and realised how it looked.
When I said I would not withdraw or alter the auction I was referring to not withdrawing and not altering the $1.00 start.
I hope you all understood that. It sort of reads that I would not be altering the auction in any way, apologies if that looked confusing.
I am sure you will all understand what I meant.

I also have a two headed NZ0.50 coin. It is my personal belief that it is a manufactured coin however is quite interesting.

carlnsue - 2014-03-27 21:09:00
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carlnsue wrote:

Crikey, I was well of the mark.
Truly appreciate your help. Would also like to bid on your packet of tokens is so permitted. Was keen to bid on the last lot but was unable to do so.

Adjustment duly made - cheers :-)

translateltd - 2014-03-27 21:10:00
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And acted on.

carlnsue - 2014-03-27 21:17:00
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carlnsue wrote:


I also have a two headed NZ0.50 coin. It is my personal belief that it is a manufactured coin however is quite interesting.

Have a close look at the edge to make sure it's not two pieces with the reverse ground off and then joined together.

As for altering auctions, best they reflect accurate information. I have on rare occasions removed bids to make the description correct when I was concerned it might appear misleading as written with bids.

It annoys me that we cannot make questions/answers/comments searchable, but that text will not show up in a random search of the site.

echoriath - 2014-03-28 00:10:00
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lbillows wrote:

Thanks for your offer. I sent a very nice email saying he could take as long as he wants to send them as long as they arrive in the end. Still no response, despite having logged on to trademe today. Might take you up on your offer in a few days time.

Have had a reply by txt from Jase who has said everthing been sent now after a house fire and will send tracking numbers and info to you via feedbacks tomorrow afternoon.Hope this all ends well for those concerned.Regards,Alan

gammoner - 2014-03-28 20:00:00
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gammoner wrote:

Have had a reply by txt from Jase who has said everthing been sent now after a house fire and will send tracking numbers and info to you via feedbacks tomorrow afternoon.Hope this all ends well for those concerned.Regards,Alan

Oh dear, I thought it might have been due to some unfortunatel personal circumstance. I hope he is ok. Thanks

Edited by lbillows at 6:16 pm, Sat 29 Mar

lbillows - 2014-03-29 18:16:00
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gammoner wrote:

Have had a reply by txt from Jase who has said everthing been sent now after a house fire and will send tracking numbers and info to you via feedbacks tomorrow afternoon.Hope this all ends well for those concerned.Regards,Alan

it would have been nice to received a email from him...not by feedback...sorry to
say

chefman1 - 2014-03-30 12:46:00
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While I agree that tracking numbers should not generally be left in feedback, I think I'd be making allowances in this case. I don't know the extent of the damage, but a fire can be a tremendously traumatic experience. I suspect he rather has his hands full.

BTW, under My Trade Me you can use E-mail Options to get an e-mail whenever someone leaves feedback for you. Tick the box, and you get an e-mail when you get feedback. Assuming a trade is running to plan, I am happy to let feedback take the place of direct e-mails.

Edited by echoriath at 2:55 pm, Sun 30 Mar

echoriath - 2014-03-30 14:53:00
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direct e-mails.
thats what i am talking about....he could have email me and apologize and let me
know what had happened, but he did it by feedback instead.

BTW, under My Trade Me you can use E-mail Options to get an e-mail whenever someone leaves feedback for you. Tick the box, and you get an e-mail when you get feedback.

lol...been a member since 2006 i do know how trademe works tim

Edited by chefman1 at 3:23 pm, Sun 30 Mar

chefman1 - 2014-03-30 15:22:00
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Hi People I,M back.
New computer finally up and jogging, haven't quite got to RUNNING yet :-)

lester36 - 2014-03-30 20:00:00
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lester36 wrote:

Hi People I,M back.
New computer finally up and jogging, haven't quite got to RUNNING yet :-)

what did you get a laptop or pc???

chefman1 - 2014-03-30 21:09:00
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Item 709802766 - something odd here. I'm sure it had a start price of $149 originally, with a bid on it, and now with an hour to go it's $1,149 ...

translateltd - 2014-03-30 21:12:00
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chefman1 wrote:

what did you get a laptop or pc???[/quote

HP Pavilion Tower .Seems to be great so far.

lester36 - 2014-03-30 21:53:00
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Counting down ...

translateltd - 2014-03-30 22:26:00
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did I

cashintheattic - 2014-03-30 22:33:00
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get the

cashintheattic - 2014-03-30 22:33:00
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500

cashintheattic - 2014-03-30 22:33:00
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one more

cashintheattic - 2014-03-30 22:33:00
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